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Thread: Will Geohot release the new pwnage tool or his own version of it????

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    Default Will Geohot release the new pwnage tool or his own version of it????
    Just wondering what he will release?

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    isn't it ?

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    I think he'll release something in 2-3 days.
    iPhone FW 2.2.1, Jailbroken and Unlocked!

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    i hope its for windows. im mac-less

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    No.... i mean like the program. Is it gonna be pwnage tool or is it gonna be his own program.

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    It will be his own program as he is no longer with the dev team.
    This was posted today from the dev teams blog then the second one was posted a few hours later.

    Rush, rush, rush....
    Over the last year we’ve discovered some interesting things about the software used in the iPhone. These “hacks” , “exploits” *and “techniques”, or whatever you want to call them, are valuable*- not only from a financial perspective (so scummy people can sell unlocking software) but also from a strategic point of view. Think of it like a game of poker, showing your hand too early would certainly make you lose “the game”.*
    The majority of iPhone users are not technical - they want an easy, one-stop, simple application that will allow them to quickly and painlessly unlock their phone. If we were to release a crummy command-line based tool that does the immediate job that everyone is screaming for, we’d only end up in the following situation:
    1) The technique is released to the world and people use this technique to quickly create GUI apps that they charge*cash-money for, or re-release something hacky and horrible that bricks lots of devices, or for example disables the WiFi that then causes more stress that ultimately comes back to us
    2) The technique is exposed to the vendor, allowing them to locate and repair the security hole. Sometimes these security holes span product versions, for example: between the first generation and second generation iPhone. In such a case releasing the knowledge in the middle of the product development cycle is pointless and risks the “usefulness” of the technique - especially if there are existing hacks/techniques that work just fine.
    The iPhone DevTeam is comprised of a group of people who work together over IRC from various parts of the world. This distributed method of working happens 24 hours a day with people performing tasks in the time that best suits their time-zones. It is a completely self-managing, self-regulating and member-funded organization. Most of us have never met face-to-face and we rarely know real names - in fact, we would more than likely not recognize each other if we walk past one another on the street. Despite this we follow a strict “hacker code”: ground rules by which we all abide.*
    Perhaps the foremost of these rules is management of knowledge. We keep*certain*information private, restricted to members of the team only (to help with points 1 and 2 above), and members are entrusted to make sure this secrecy is consistently enforced. This makes*the team. Only when there is a majority vote from the team do we make any announcement or release.*
    So now we come onto Geohot, the self appointed media frontman for last year’s iPhone hacks. Geohot actually worked with us a month or so before the media-circus that he led. Geohot is certainly a bright guy, but he couldn’t abide by rules that I described in the last paragraph and because of this he was asked to leave the team. Of course like any hacker Geohot continued on for his goal.
    Using some of our techniques and tools (and some of his) and using his own brain power (and that of an unnamed Russian) he was able to release his hardware hack and demonstrate the first unlocked iPhone to the world, he has also demonstrated other things during the last year and some of those releases have helped us with our work.
    We thought that Geohot would have matured somewhat in the last year, but this clearly isn’t the case, as sadly one of the team members has leaked a copy of our exploit to Geohot and he is now using this to try and*provoke us into making an early release :-(
    So finally, just in case some of you were wondering, we’re not sitting on this tool because we’re full of ourselves or stuck up our own asses. We’re not sitting on it cause we like to see you writhe. We are testing it to make sure it’s as glitch-free as we can make it. We want to avoid releasing something that turns expensive phones into pretty looking paperweights. Don’t you agree it’s worth the wait?
    If others want to feel like they’re in control by posting all-knowing entries on their blogs, we can’t stop that, but the new PwnageTool will be released when it’s ready, and not a moment later.

    Still cranking away...
    So we are still cranking away*finalizing*PwnageTool for release, and as we said it’ll be soon.*We’ve read some comments in our previous posts suggesting that the videos are a tease, so we’ve taken that on board and we are asking you guys*the users and supporters.
    Would like to see another video, it is a fairly technical video, with some stuff blurred out to protect some stuff we are working on, but assuming you guys are OK with that we can post it later.
    It is your*decision,**another**video? *Yes or No?
    Let us know in the comments.

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    Geo is a smart young man, but is not very bright. A young kid who really doesn't understand how things should be executed. I think he should drive his little yellow 350 and position for google maps a little longer, maybe try a "TEAM" sport like club soccer for a while, and then come back to Hacking!

    GROW UP YOUNG MAN, it's not all about you!

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    Sorry, but Geohot cracked the iPhone first and the Dev Teams work was because of his work. So Geohot gets credit. The Dev team in my opinion is holding back pwnage for publicity's sake.

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    princemarko I highly disagree with that comment, Geohot has made a ok program and techniqu to unlocking devices but I do not agree that he was the first person to crack iPhone firmware. It's amazing what publicity does... Do your own research. ZiPhone was hit and miss on several devices due to his egerness to be the first.

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    Well think about it. Geohot has released the Ziphone. The Ziphone automatically downgrades the iPhone's bootloader from 4.6 to 3.9, allowing the iphone to not being able to re-upgrade to 4.6. Now, the Dev team has iPwnage, a fine tool, which enables both the power and casual computer users to customize their iPhone to their liking (FB3.9)

    The Dev "team" listened to the people with their support and is now about to release a very evolutionary application to the world (ipwnage 2)

    Geohot is going to release his own revision of his application, which we haven't seen preview of yet.

    I have personally played with both Ziphone and Pwnage, and realized the Pwnage is (and probably will be) safer than Ziphone.

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