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    Quote Originally Posted by dale1v View Post
    Apple's marketing hypnotises yet ANOTHER.

    When you're popular, you get attention, good or bad.
    And one day if macs had 95% Market share? You would get viruses. This is for mac disciples in general: Stop assuming its so secure because no ones done anything yet. If I were a terrorist, where would I attack to get my point across? A highly populated city? Or the desert? Take a guess at which location the PC is and which location the mac is.
    If they were so amazing and so superior, why are so few companies utilizing them? If PCs were so bad and terrible as you zealots like to exaggerate, why do most of the world still use them? Wouldn't they have switched places?

    Because like you said there popular. Most people use them, so most apps are written for them. And I'm sure that's true. Every piece of memory handling electronics can get a virus. But atm they are safest. Tell me, how many virus scanners and firewalls do you have on your computer? And how many viruses you had over the years?
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    I have two scanners so I can cover my bases (I only use one at a time, once a week each) and one firewall built in on my router. Viruses, very few. Adware is minimal also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m3thodandr3d View Post
    are you seriously kidding? a big time security software company making an antivirus app for the iPhone with an unofficial sdk? what a joke! I've never had a virus on my phone. Have you?
    Quote Originally Posted by mfleigle View Post
    How have my posts been bullsh!t? I just want to get the point acrossed that it is not harmful. That is all I want me to take away from all my posts, and it kind of hurts my feelings that you think I am BS.

    McAfee has confirmed one of the apps!

    From TUAW:
    Update 8:45 ET: In a "curiouser and curiouser" twist, we have some new info from McAfee on the iPhone AV application... which was indeed developed at McAfee, contrary to our earlier reports from their press representative. Here's what else has been confirmed:

    * The 'Stinger' mobile AV tool for iPhone is an internal project that somehow "got into the wild." It was not intended for release (indeed, since it was developed with the community toolchain, it would have to be rebuilt for the SDK).
    * They are happy with the positive feedback they're getting from users.
    * It was a proof of concept. They have no idea if they'll follow through with an actual product.
    * Corporate and consumer offices are in adjacent cities, which explains the domain registration issue.

    As we get additional details and some hands-on time with the tool we will update further.

    And for the grand finale they confirmed the AV!!!

    Update 9:45 ET: Kudos to McAfee's media relations team, burning the late-Friday oil to help us make some sense of this story. Here's the official comment from Joris Evers, director of worldwide PR for the antivirus vendor:

    The application you blogged about is indeed a genuine McAfee project. We are always working on new platforms including the popular ones. In this particular case we were running a test to validate some recently developed technology. We happen to be first to test AV technology for iPhone. We're happy that iPhone users are already getting excited about it, as evidenced by your blog and the thousands of people who are trying out the application. Still, we are not ready to announce a new product, our development work is in the early stages.
    LMAO! I guess all the brains that just knew they were right and the initial post was a fluke, has been proven wrong. I guess you guys wont jump to conclusions within 3 secs of reading some info rather than taking a look around the globe of the web to really find what your looking for. This was too funny!
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    Apple products aren't as secure as people think... The whole groundwork for jailbreaking is based on an "exploit" Apple didn't and still hasn't recognized... Virus' are usually based on the very same thing... Virus' use exploits to attack ones computer... In theory someone could use the same exploit we use for jailbreaking to install some malicious code, or even delete important files. I think more Windows users will install this on there iPods than Mac users. Not because there are less virus' for Macs than Windows, but because of there itchy finger mouse clickers that think they really won a free iPhone, or the kids trying to get 65KB movies from torrent sites...
    (off topic) I'm a Windows user, and have been for more than 10 years, and have yet to get a virus. I have no AV installed, and my firewall is turned off. Based on my experience with my Apple iPod Touch, I would never buy another Apple product (especially the pricey mac computers) because of Apple's marketing techniques.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phrizzle View Post
    Not because there are less virus' for Macs than Windows, but because of there itchy finger mouse clickers that think they really won a free iPhone, or the kids trying to get 65KB movies from torrent sites...
    You hit the nail on the head

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt4iphones View Post
    Either way we still win. I have never got a virus on my Mac where I could use my Windows PC and get a virus in 5 minutes. And I wouldn't say that Macs tie with Windows in security. The security on Windows is shiite. God do I hate Windows firewall.
    People that say this stuff have never used a Mac. Don't judge till you try it!
    How is Windows Security shit? If you are competent enough to avoid viruses, and get a NOD32 scanner or something like that, you're fine.

    I've never gotten a virus on my PC, and I could use a Mac and get a virus in 5 minutes too.

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    How many 'nix based virus are there? We run Unix servers at our NoC to host over 900k+ domains, and they don't get taken down compared to our windows boxes that we've since moved away from.

    I think you can spin this popular logic that "why attack a desert when you can attack a city?" scenario just as easily in that, "why not be the first to do something Apple considers impossible?" Wouldn't it be in a hacker's best interest to wreak havoc on a Mac -- the so called "virus free OS" and make a name for yourself? Or would it be more worth your time and effort to be another "me too" script kiddy on a windows platform?

    I have nothing against windows, I run it myself at the office for business, I just find most of these "arguments" pretty facetious at best. It doesn't matter if it tastes great or is less filling, all that matters is you get what you want out of your platform of choice.

    Theres a critical point with windows, in that to run a healthy system you need a level of security in place. As time goes on, these security measures are constantly updated as are their malicious software definitions. Its not long before you have over 400 megs of definitions to sort through at boot, and the only way to speed things up at this point is to get a faster computer. I'm at the point where I'm spending 5k to build a work machine, and thats a PC! Whoever said Macs are expensive hasn't had to build a bullet proof PC yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by x999x View Post
    How many 'nix based virus are there? We run Unix servers at our NoC to host over 900k+ domains, and they don't get taken down compared to our windows boxes that we've since moved away from.

    I think you can spin this popular logic that "why attack a desert when you can attack a city?" scenario just as easily in that, "why not be the first to do something Apple considers impossible?" Wouldn't it be in a hacker's best interest to wreak havoc on a Mac -- the so called "virus free OS" and make a name for yourself? Or would it be more worth your time and effort to be another "me too" script kiddy on a windows platform?

    I have nothing against windows, I run it myself at the office for business, I just find most of these "arguments" pretty facetious at best. It doesn't matter if it tastes great or is less filling, all that matters is you get what you want out of your platform of choice.
    Your completely right. I agree with you, why continue to fight over something so petty. I do still use Windows, but minimally (used BootCamp on my MacBook). Eventualy some basterd will go, "hmm, I'm sick of fkn up Windows users. Macs are getting popular ." A world without viruses will be so much better. Atm, we have to put up with them and protect ourselves as much as possible. But till they day a major virus comes to a Mac or iPhone, I won't be installing an anti-virus.
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    lol, whatever. I'm going to play Crysis.
    (nuff said)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dale1v View Post
    lol, whatever. I'm going to play Crysis.
    (nuff said)
    Just watch the size of the torrent porn movies you download later. Haha,
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiLeNtKiLLa View Post
    LMAO! I guess all the brains that just knew they were right and the initial post was a fluke, has been proven wrong. I guess you guys wont jump to conclusions within 3 secs of reading some info rather than taking a look around the globe of the web to really find what your looking for. This was too funny!

    WOW finally - The best post of the whole 5 pages had to come on page 5.lol

    Seems this turned into a MAC vs PC fight... wtf is that all about??? Stay on topic ppl.

    Ok to get back on topic - Is someone owed an apology here?, If I recall some defamatory statements were made early on somewhere.

    Just wondering if AlliPod is gonna man up and tell mfleigle he feels like a *******?

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    lol no viruses on mac? that's still because barely anyone in the pc consumer market uses it. Not enough users to become a target. Why target a couple million when you can target hundreds of millions? And yes macs do get viruses just not as many as windows based PC. But trust me, that will change if and when the mac os becomes as mainstream as windows. And yea, even if this were legit, I wouldn't get it. I wouldn't trust mcafee with picking my nose.

    PS. its safer to have a virus scanner and be protected than not because the possibility is still there. Maybe someone really hates macs. Oh yea unless you are using mcafee
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    NOD32 > (Mcafee+Norton)

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    looks as this actually may be legit.

    http://www.tuaw.com/2008/05/02/mcafe...wed-by-mcafee/

    Although something in these stages of creation I wouldn't bother with, without continuous updates of virus definitions this would be pointless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5h00p3r_MAN View Post
    How is Windows Security shit? If you are competent enough to avoid viruses, and get a NOD32 scanner or something like that, you're fine.

    I've never gotten a virus on my PC, and I could use a Mac and get a virus in 5 minutes too.
    what the hell is a nod32 scanner, u act like any competent person should know what the hell that is, i havent had a virus on my computer in years and i have no idea what the hell that is

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    It's a great anti-virus program.

    I personally haven't had any problems with viruses, the worst I'll get is a spyware raping, but that goes away with ad-aware or spybot.

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    Wow... This is the stupidest 6 pages of thread I think I've ever read. Could there be anymore of a flame war going on here? Yes, as it was stated (I think 5 times, which is utterly ridiculous) macs aren't as popular so why write viruses yada yada.... But as someone stated on page 5 (sorry, don't remember who) why wouldn't someone want to be the first to write a big virus to wipe out the "virus free os"? Linux and OSX are both based off of Unix, as in, not built from dogshit. But I'm not knocking windows, I use it at work. Just simply stating that Unix is the most secure backbone for any os, and linux and osx both use it. Enough said. This app is retarded.

    Also, I use a mac at home, don't use AV software and laugh at people who buy it for mac. There's no real threat. Maybe one day there will be, but for now, not as much of a chance as a snowball in hell.

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    Has anyone been able to fetch this app? I wanted to give it a try, but I get package download failed from the Installer.app

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    Quote Originally Posted by x999x View Post

    Theres a critical point with windows, in that to run a healthy system you need a level of security in place. As time goes on, these security measures are constantly updated as are their malicious software definitions. Its not long before you have over 400 megs of definitions to sort through at boot, and the only way to speed things up at this point is to get a faster computer. I'm at the point where I'm spending 5k to build a work machine, and thats a PC! Whoever said Macs are expensive hasn't had to build a bullet proof PC yet.
    I.dont.know.what.you.do.for.a.living,but.5k.on.a.w ork.machine.just.becuase.you.think.your.definition s.are.slowing.your.machine.down.is.just.crazy.

    i.use.avg.spybot.and.winpatrol.used.them.for.years .and.i.dont.think.all.3.together.come.anywhere.nea r.400mg.and.that.includes.the.program.files.too.al so.my.system.still.boots.at.the.same.speed.as.it.d id.when.i.reformatted.7.months.ago.

    5k.on.a.machine.thats.gonna.be.out.of.date.in.6mon ths.is.crazy.i.only.spent.400.and.i.built.a.quad. core.system.what.the.hell.you.got.lmao.


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