Page 4 of 7 FirstFirst ... 23456 ... LastLast
Results 61 to 80 of 136

Your favorite Apple, iPhone, iPad, iOS, Jailbreak, and Cydia site.


Thread: Jailbreakers to Apple: “This is only the beginning...”

  1. #61
    Monopoly

    The alleged purpose of the Antitrust laws was to protect competition; that purpose was based on the socialistic fallacy that a free, unregulated market will inevitably lead to the establishment of coercive monopolies. But, in fact, no coercive monopoly has ever been or ever can be established by means of free trade on a free market. Every coercive monopoly was created by government intervention into the economy: by special privileges, such as franchises or subsidies, which closed the entry of competitors into a given field, by legislative action. (For a full demonstration of this fact, I refer you to the works of the best economists.)

    The Objectivist Newsletter “Antitrust: The Rule of Unreason,”
    The Objectivist Newsletter, Feb. 1962, 5.

    A “coercive monopoly” is a business concern that can set its prices and production policies independent of the market, with immunity from competition, from the law of supply and demand. An economy dominated by such monopolies would be rigid and stagnant.

    The necessary precondition of a coercive monopoly is closed entry—the barring of all competing producers from a given field. This can be accomplished only by an act of government intervention, in the form of special regulations, subsidies, or franchises. Without government assistance, it is impossible for a would-be monopolist to set and maintain his prices and production policies independent of the rest of the economy. For if he attempted to set his prices and production at a level that would yield profits to new entrants significantly above those available in other fields, competitors would be sure to invade his industry.

    Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal “Antitrust,” Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal, 68.

    If you ask me to name the proudest distinction of Americans, I would choose- because it contains all the others- the fact that they were the people who created the phrase "to make money". No other language or nation had ever used these words before; men had always thought of wealth as a static quantity- to be seized, begged, inherited, shared, looted or obtained as a favor. Americans were the first to understand that wealth has to be created. -Atlas Shrugged

    In short, dont like it, then do better. Compete. Or don't pay. Just don't cry that it is unfair.
    Last edited by floppy_joe; 2010-08-01 at 08:51 AM.

  2. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to floppy_joe For This Useful Post:

    geekymom (2010-08-01), ploth (2010-08-01)

  3. #62
    whats legal?

  4. #63
    See the thing is with this is that no matter what you say, "its my phone, my device i can do whatever i want" wont get them to do let you install whatever you want anymore than before. If they let people install Cydia and all that stuff openly and without any problem then there app store will go down and people will only pirate apps illegally. Then we will have no apps. There are lots and lots of factors to letting people just jailbreak and do whatever they want, because its gonna hurt them one way or another. And for those that say that people wont jailbreak for pirating apps, then yes they will!

  5. #64
    wow I can't believe this. Hard to believe this is the state of jailbreaking now compared to iphone 1!

  6. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by brianlg View Post
    whats legal?
    Making money. Creating a market and kicking *** in that market. Unfortunatley this is often frowned upon and plundered in the name of "fairness" or worse yet "for public's welfare."

    Legalized looting.

  7. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by SnowLeo View Post
    Didnt comex or one of the dev team guys say they may have found a way to use an exploit that apple wouldnt be able to fix in a software update? If thats coming tomarrow or any time in the near future not only would it not be nessisary to put it in the app store but I might just sh*t myself lol.
    If it werent for jailbreaking i would have a life. lol kidding.
    If it werent for jailbreaking i would have a droid X.
    If it werent for hackintoshing i would have a mac. lol lovin my os x netbook.
    If it werent for jailbreaking I wouldnt have an ipad.
    Any other reasons why apple trying to stop jailbreaking is only hurting themselves?
    If apple allowed things like streaming full music from the beggining limewire wouldnt exist.
    If apple allowes jailbreaking from the begginning xsellize wouldnt exist.
    If apple allowed the sharing of apps with people ********** wouldnt exist.
    All in all apples sandbox anti piracy emperor bullsh*t is what brought about piracy in massive levels and turned away people and potential of their devices with the piracy costing billions more than it should between songs movies and apps.
    If apple allowed multiple carriers in the US from the begginning...... my dad might actually be able to SUPPORT MY DAMN FAMILY AND PAY FOR MY COLLEGE(he owns 2 verizon indirect agents)

    Umm well....

    Well get a droid x then....
    If it wasnt for hackintosh you would have a mac? That would be good for them....
    If apple allowed full streaming music they would loose money
    If apple allowed sharing of apps they wouldnt make anything from the app store...
    Umm you dont have to get iphones, you wanted to get droid x's right?

    Also people dont think what goes on there side.... if you own a company and someone says oh! give everything for free would you? and lose millions? No!

  8. The Following User Says Thank You to iphone?3gs For This Useful Post:

    floppy_joe (2010-08-01)

  9. #67
    Oh how i hate CrApple!

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Puuzi View Post
    Oh how i hate CrApple!
    But you willingly give them your money?

    Ayn Rand -
    - There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: the fashionable non-conformist.

  11. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to floppy_joe For This Useful Post:

    spice_weasel (2010-08-01), tecpunk64 (2010-08-01)

  12. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Dizi View Post
    I think the fact that a JB for i4 mass consumption hasn't been realized yet shows that Apple is onto something. Are the days of instant JB over? Another day goes by..
    Nobody arm-twisted you into buying any version of the iPhone! That was solely your decision...and since you DO NOT write the JB tool, I suggest you find something meaningful to do rather than waste space on here, or use the little space you have to appreciate the Dev-Team and others who give us these tools because They DO IT FOR FREE!!!!! Nobody owes you anything


    Quote Originally Posted by Tiger92 View Post
    Jeez, devs are damned if they release a jailbreak too soon and it causes problems, and they're damned if they make sure it works first.

    Remember: THEY DO THIS FOR FREE!!!!
    My thoughts exactly...sadly, such is the world we live in...filled with ingrates


    Quote Originally Posted by tudtran View Post
    This is old news. We all know jailbreak is now legal, but where is the jailbreak?

    Clearly, you did not read the entire article nor grasp it's meaning or implications prior to posting!

    Firstly, posting on here without giving due thought to what the article is really saying is pointless for the simple reason that this community is all about educating and informing...

    Secondly, refer to my response to @Dizi!!

    Lastly, according to the Dev-Team, the JB will be released when it's fully tested and ready, and EVERYTHING works the way it was initially intended...and rightly so, as that would put a sock in the mouths of Apple and the cry babies
    Last edited by iLaw-One; 2010-08-01 at 09:32 AM.

  13. #70
    iPhone? More like MyPhone badass1469's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    California
    Posts
    199
    Thanks
    4
    Thanked 27 Times in 15 Posts

    Quote Originally Posted by skater38053 View Post
    Let the jailbreaking begin!
    dude lol u post this same thing in almost every post that has to do with jailbreaking, it gets a bit old.
    damn drug dealers, and there jailbroken iPhones... ____ Hit the thanks if you think i suck

  14. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by High_Voltage View Post
    there has to be a catch or disadvantage to Having Cydia in the Appstore somewhere... I like to keep Cydia in the Jailbreaking Community in my opinion, I lUv having the feeling of Jailbreaking the Rules!
    I wholeheartedly agree. I feel as though the true experience of jailbreaking is best the way it is. If the average consumer could simply click a link in the App Store, I am almost positive that something must be destroyed from jailbreaking as WE know it.

    Please, take a moment to think about this. It's 3:00am and I should be sleeping, so I won't go into too much detail. If the bulk of iOS devices get Cydia, the experience of it will become diluted, something made for the masses instead of the relatively small group of people who are motivated enough to break free from the norm, instead of following Apple's mandate.

    To sum it up, once any old iOS owner gets access to Cydia and Rock, then the entire meaning of the jailbreak, one of personalization and control at the user level and being UNIQUE, becomes exactly the opposite: trendy, cool, mainstream.

    Jailbreaking isn't mainstream. It isn't meant to be. I am all for the cause promoted, but I firmly believe that the experience that we know and love will become lost.

    It's a catch-22: go mainstream and lose a figurative part of the JB, or remain selfish and allow Apple to continue it's unfair practices. Being a moral person, I'll take the first choice, but I'll appreciate the JB in a deeper way until that day comes.

  15. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to greekking23 For This Useful Post:

    geekymom (2010-08-01), ploth (2010-08-01), sh33436 (2010-08-01), tecpunk64 (2010-08-01)

  16. #72
    True that,it's my money n my phone let me be in controll of it not just Apple

  17. The Following User Says Thank You to barryson77 For This Useful Post:

    sh33436 (2010-08-01)

  18. #73
    I don't care legal or not I'm still going to jailbreak my device lol.

  19. The Following User Says Thank You to zozodouce For This Useful Post:

    sh33436 (2010-08-01)

  20. #74
    Default Jbreakers shame
    Talk about biting the hand that feeds you! Small businesses suffering? Come on get a grip of yourselves!

    Apples security is saving millions of people time and money. Sure I like the few extras a jb provides but let's face it jb without the iPhone is useless.

    If the general pop get cydia, scammers will take no time in turning iPhone into the next ms malware fest.

    If a device doesn't do what you want then buy something else...instead of trying to force the manufacturer to accommodate you.

    Btw I wonder if rock / cydia / jb community were open about the millions THEY COST developers and small business through theft of stolen apps to the law makers? I know some of you like me don't steal apps but many do.

    The way many of the jb community acts makes me sympathetic to Apple no matter what they do to protect their product, their users and the developers they make millions for.
    Last edited by ploth; 2010-08-01 at 10:00 AM. Reason: Addition

  21. The Following User Says Thank You to ploth For This Useful Post:

    sh33436 (2010-08-01)

  22. #75
    Green Apple Cocheese's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    the hill country
    Posts
    35
    Thanks
    16
    Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts

    I don't wanna sync with itunes, Itunes is the worst program on my pc. I like my 3g 3.1.2 just fine! no itunes what so ever!

  23. The Following User Says Thank You to Cocheese For This Useful Post:

    iAye (2010-08-01)

  24. #76
    iPhone? More like MyPhone macsoldier's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Oregon
    Posts
    291
    Thanks
    15
    Thanked 25 Times in 21 Posts

    one for the good guys

  25. #77
    How can people make 'if apple was smart' comments? Seriously?

    They know what they are doing. 'Idiots' do not start up multi-billion dollar monopolies such as Apple. Get over yourself and stop buying their products if you do not like the way it is presented to you. They do not promise you an open source phone. They do not promise you a phone that you can use on any carrier you want. There is no false advertisement in what they are selling you. If they want to produce a sand-boxed phone then that is their choice. It is obviously working for them.

    So please, do all of us a favor and create the next multi-billion dollar mobile market scheme, make it open source, and compete with them. If you win, then kudos to you. Until then ... STFU you are getting what you paid for.

  26. #78
    Nice thought, but I can't help feel it would end up hurting the market unless something can be done to curb app piracy. Piracy rates are bad enough as it is, and I'm not comfortable with that ability being handed to every iPhone owner on a plate.

    Personally I'd rather see things stay as they are now - people who want to jailbreak can figure out how, and those who are hell-bent on pirating apps can even do that, but the vast majority are satisfied with never needing to jailbreak at all.

    I think what legislators need to focus on is apple's business strategies and questionable rejection guidelines.

  27. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to cypherpunk For This Useful Post:

    Blufox (2010-08-01), geekymom (2010-08-01), tecpunk64 (2010-08-01)

  28. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by cypherpunk View Post
    Nice thought, but I can't help feel it would end up hurting the market unless something can be done to curb app piracy. Piracy rates are bad enough as it is, and I'm not comfortable with that ability being handed to every iPhone owner on a plate.

    Personally I'd rather see things stay as they are now - people who want to jailbreak can figure out how, and those who are hell-bent on pirating apps can even do that, but the vast majority are satisfied with never needing to jailbreak at all.

    I think what legislators need to focus on is apple's business strategies and questionable rejection guidelines.
    This is exactly right.

  29. #80
    This is what you call LIFE you get the crazy stuff in and the crap stuff out

Page 4 of 7 FirstFirst ... 23456 ... LastLast
Posting Permissions
  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •