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  1. #101
    you know the you tube song they had at the beginning of yesterdays press con that is a great song to describe all you people, Jobs was just showing idiots like you guys that other phones had the same problem and no one made a big deal with them like they did with apple ,no one really said any thing about the one hour my girl gets with her evo and at least you dont see any of the apple buttons fall of like the rim ball fall out of the stupid black berry

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    I can't understand how many people actually believed Steve yesterday. It's devastating. I'm glad nokia hit back.

    I've been using nokia phones since 1998 and I've had no reception problems at all. But that's in europe.

    edit: this is pathetic what apple fanboys say. Any1 having issues is an idiot. Just great!

  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by h4ndcuffed View Post
    It's not 1,500 out of 3 million. That's just the count of the people who complained...take into account the other million that tried calling to complain but dropped their calls, or the rest that have the problem, saw there was a documented issue and chose not to waste an hour on the phone waiting to hear "you should get a bumper". I knew my phone had a problem because I keep up with the news, but it was pointless to call and complain...however I was brutally honest with friends and coworkers that asked "is it worth it? Do u like it". "yes. I love it, it's a million times better than my 3G, all features have become more efficient and aesthetically pleasing, however as a phone, without my case it blows otherwise it's well worth the $200 upgrade.".

    Apple's behavior throughout this ordeal is horrendous, however the product IMO is great. Not meaning to argue just give other views. Have a great day all.
    I see your point there. I was just calculating based in "cold hard facts". I have a 3G and i can replicate this death grip issue by cupping the bottom of the phone in my hand. Whereas I can hardly effect my iP4. But you can bet your anus that I will be getting a free case

    i gotz this whole coding thing down

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  5. #105
    It is sad to see apple respond by trying to fault other companies to minimize their issues. The whole part of the site dedicated to antennae issues is just admittance and a childish way of doing so. Definitely epic.

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    whooo war!!! why don't they stop messing around with one damn problem and join forces the make the ultimate phone! that would be epic..

  7. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by eortizr View Post
    Apple is so lame... they can not compete with RIM in antenna or battery design...
    Battery design? Apple are experts at making all their devices last almost 2x if not 3x longer than ANY other device in the MARKET. Now lets compare

    1) Droid = Horrible Battery life, crappy android programming kills it. Look at reviews Im not going to explain my self in detail over and over.
    2) Evo, even WORSE battery life, in a review done by engadget showed the Evo from 75% battery life and gone down to 30% in 7 minutes. Explain? Did you see how long the iPhone battery lasts?
    3) Any of Apples laptops, all have 9-10 hour battery life. Now please tell me, how many laptops are there in the world which such epic battery specifications.

    Reason I am not comparing Bold 9700 is because its not a multi touch smart phone in the same area as the iPhone or Droid etc. SO battery life cannot be compared in such fashion.

    Maybe this will make you and other users understand LOL

    Also this is for EVERYONE, understand this only 1.7% of users are having the "death grip" problem. Now do some math, 100% - 1.7% = ? I'm quite sure this is not a BIG issue. Now, this whole thing is just related to AREA. As explained by engadget, consumer reports, Apple and so on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beastlee View Post
    I can't believe Apple's BS on this. I've had countless phones and none of them, including my current 3GS have had issues with the antenna, no matter how I hold them.
    I'm yet to order an iPhone4 for a number of reasons, this isn't really one of them TBH. I'm more concerned with the issue that iOS4 has broken the USB connectivity to a number of car head units and accessories, something that is a basic function of the device but seems to have been lost amid the antenna reports. Without this function any device with iOS4 on is useless to me, I'm not buying a new 500 stereo just for a software update, 6 months after buying my current one.
    No it hasn't... my iPhone 4 works just fine with my Pioneer headunit that is 2 years old. If you were using the iOS 4 beta, it didn't connect with headunits. But that's it.

    So that's not an excuse now. haha

  9. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by alectra82 View Post
    My iphone 4 is not affected by the way I hold it. It has had the best reception of most phones I have had, and I work in a basement of a 20 story building. I will sure as hell take my free bumper though.
    Agreed. I'm sick and tired of this crap. I do to have the reception problem but I have a case. Who wouldn't have a case? So no reception drops here even if it does drop to 1 bar I still get calls and texts and no breakups though. If you don't like your phone take it back. Just what's so hard about complaining about something and then dealing with it. I like apple but this HUGE THING over nothing is starting to make me think otherwise about another apple iPhone 5. There computers are awesome but if it's a software fix then fine so be it. Let's see if it works. Alot of people are pissed off and all Steve has to do is just do what's right. And get it over with. I'm a little upset with Steve

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    "WHY ARE YOU BLAMING ME"...all the other kids could have done it..why me? Well we expect more out of you since you hold yourself to a higher standard. So now Apple wants to be held to the same standard as it's competitors.I always thought they wanted to better than them? The reason I got an iPhone and then an iMac was 'THEY' are better..I guess NOT anymore says Steve JobsU. We are all in the same boat says he we all drop calls and Steve for the mediocrity.
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  11. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by nicksti View Post
    Apple haters blowing this out of proportion? Get real. You have people in this very thread that have owned the 2G, 3G, and 3GS and are dissappointed with the 4. How can you be a hater if you have owned every iPhone to come out.

    Also, why do we have documented evidence pre this firestorm of antenna engineers stating the iPhone's external antenna design is a cause of concern?

    This happens to every smartphone and not many people are complaining? Then why give away free stuff? And notice how we were given only a percentage of people who purchased AppleCare that complained about reception issues. How many people actually buy AppleCare?
    Because they have to be seen like they are doing something! Otherwise haters like yourself will carry on ripping into them for no reason...and they need to show that they do care...but there's not much they can do about it because every phone does it you tit.

    I have had all phones since the first, and the iPhone 4 is the best by far, I've had no problems whatsoever, Some people on here obviously have no idea how companies work otherwise they wouldn't keep posting these ridiculous statements about AppleCare and why they are giving bumpers give it a second thought before you start blabbering off about it..
    Last edited by macimaster; 2010-07-17 at 06:17 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

  12. #112
    OK since we don't know the exact amount of iPhone4's have been sold i done some calculating.

    now based on the 3 days, they sold 1.7mil so for the other 19 days its been out i added up 1.7mil then halved it so they sold half each day (they prob sold more)

    1.7mil * 19 / 2 = 16 150 000 + 1 700 000 = 17 850 000

    1.7% of 17 850 000 = 303 450
    0.55% of 17 850 000 = 98 175

    Total = 401.625

    so this is what apple are saying are the results of phone being taken back and people phoning in saying there guffed.

    its probable more than that but hey Apple aren't going to say so it would hurt them to much.

    Oh an every one saying i can do this on my 3G or 3Gs go some where else i have 2 bars in my house and i loose none if i cover the damn phone with both hands though i do loose all signal if i cover it in tinfoil.
    Last edited by rocky5; 2010-07-17 at 06:31 PM.
    Apple are Control freaks we need to stop them before they take over the world!!

  13. #113
    I really like my iPhone 4, rather not have a case, but can live with, just got a Vroom case, feel better about it now If I do drop my phone. BUT, sometimes the screen comes on when talking, this has to be fixed. Was talking last night, and the other person start asking if I was there, my check hit the mute button while talking. This has happened 8 or 10 times before, if not mute, some other app like the camera. I have not updated to 4.0.1 yet. Does the up date take care of this, or should I return the phone for another one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jius View Post
    Perhaps apple need some lefthanded scientists to avoid this problem and their now tarnished reputation.
    Left Handed + pre-ordered naked iPhone4 + Death Grip = No Loss of Signal for me.

    I have had my iPhone4 since June 23rd and haven't had a problem. I have bought an iPhone every year since they have come out and every year the product has been significantly improved, whether by hardware or software.

    Other than on the news and forums, I have yet to see an iPhone 4 (in person) display Loss of Signal due to the death grip. Sounds more like a manufacturing problem affecting select phones. Maybe Apple needs to re-Validate their manufacturing process.

    All cell phones have issues, whether it's hardware, software, or a lack of functionality. No product is perfect otherwise there would be no need for further technological advancements. Analyzing flaws can help improve a product, but dwelling on a single "known" flaw creates narrow vision that loses sight of what really matters.

    A product is a product. You either like it or you don't. Luckily if you don't, there isn't a lack of demand for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6309phone View Post
    > Really don't see myself buying the iPhone 5 after all this.

    Fantastic! Great!
    Did you really just try to make an >implication on a non-futaba website? Get out.

  16. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by Varmit View Post
    You know what, I have a solution to everyones problem. Forget the bumpers, forget how you hold it with your hands. This should work PERFECT.


    Lol...I bet then the proximity sensor would come into play and **** up too...

  17. #117
    This is a BIG BS from Apple ! I have been holding back from buying iPad + iPhone 4 till now, looks like they will not be getting my biz. I will prefer to support others than Apple from now on and hope other will do the same to teach Apple a lesson !

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    I can't believe that they could try to bring in other phone companies for there own issue. If they made a mistake, this ISN'T the time to be ganging up on the other phone companies and trying once again to make themselves look cool. Just fix the problem, stop trying to cause lawsuits again....
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  19. #119
    RIMs response was very well written. Polite but very mean and aggressive at the same time. Apple is in a spot it's never been before and they are really effing this up by dragging others onto it.

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    i dont understand how these guys can respond when he showed proof. unless you are going to claim that he altered your phone (neither nokia, or im did this) then your just responding for no reason.

    there's a battle rapper who said this and i think it applies

    "you screaming for no reason, you Samuel Jackson"
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