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    This Is Apple's Next iPhone

    You are looking at Apple's next iPhone. It was found lost in a bar in Redwood City, camouflaged to look like an iPhone 3GS. We got it. We disassembled it. It's the real thing, and here are all the details.


    While Apple may tinker with the final packaging and design of the final phone, it's clear that the features in this lost-and-found next-generation iPhone are drastically new and drastically different from what came before. Here's the detailed list of our findings:

    What's new
    • Front-facing video chat camera
    • Improved regular back-camera (the lens is quite noticeably larger than the iPhone 3GS)
    • Camera flash
    • Micro-SIM instead of standard SIM (like the iPad)
    • Improved display. It's unclear if it's the 960x640 display thrown around before—it certainly looks like it, with the "Connect to iTunes" screen displaying much higher resolution than on a 3GS.
    • What looks to be a secondary mic for noise cancellation, at the top, next to the headphone jack
    • Split buttons for volume
    • Power, mute, and volume buttons are all metallic

    What's changed
    • The back is entirely flat, made of either glass (more likely) or ceramic or shiny plastic in order for the cell signal to poke through. Tapping on the back makes a more hollow and higher pitched sound compared to tapping on the glass on the front/screen, but that could just be the orientation of components inside making for a different sound
    • An aluminum border going completely around the outside
    • Slightly smaller screen than the 3GS (but seemingly higher resolution)
    • Everything is more squared off
    • 3 grams heavier
    • 16% Larger battery
    • Internals components are shrunken, miniaturized and reduced to make room for the larger battery


    Why we think it's definitely real
    We're as skeptical—if not more—than all of you. We get false tips all the time. But after playing with it for about a week—the overall quality feels exactly like a finished final Apple phone—and disassembling this unit, there is so much evidence stacked in its favor, that there's very little possibility that it's a fake. In fact, the possibility is almost none. Imagine someone having to use Apple components to design a functioning phone, from scratch, and then disseminating it to people around the world. Pretty much impossible. Here are the reasons, one by one.

    It has been reported lost
    Apple-connected John Gruber—from Daring Fireball—says that Apple has indeed lost a prototype iPhone and they want it back:

    So I called around, and I now believe this is an actual unit from Apple — a unit Apple is very interested in getting back.
    Obviously someone found it, and here it is.

    The screen
    While we couldn't get it past the connect to iTunes screen for the reasons listed earlier, the USB cable on that screen was so high quality that it was impossible to discern individual pixels. We can't tell you the exact resolution of this next-generation iPhone, but it's much higher than the current iPhone 3GS.

    The operating system
    According to the person who found it, this iPhone was running iPhone OS 4.0 before the iPhone 4.0 announcement. The person was able to play with it and see the iPhone 4.0 features. Then, Apple remotely killed the phone before we got access to it. We were unable to restore because each firmware is device specific—3GS firmware only loads on 3GS devices—and the there are no firmwares available for this unreleased phone. Which is another clue to its authenticity.


    It is recognized as an iPhone
    This iPhone behaves exactly like an iPhone does when connected to a computer, with the proper boot sequence and "connect to iTunes" restore functionality. Xcode and iTunes both see this as an iPhone. Mac OS X's System Profiler also reports this as an iPhone in restore mode, which is a natural consequence of remotely wiping the phone, but report different product identifiers (both CPID and CPRV) than either the 3G or the 3GS.

    It uses micro-sim
    The fact that it uses a micro-sim is a clear indicator that this is a next-generation iPhone. No other cellphone uses this standard at this point in the US.

    The camouflage case
    The case it came inside was a fully developed plastic case to house this phone to disguise it like a 3GS. This wasn't just a normal case; it had all the proper new holes cut out for the new switches and ports and camera holes and camera flash. But it looks like something from Belkin or Case-Mate. It's a perfect disguise.

    The fact that it's in the wild right now
    Logic can also narrow down why this phone is this year's iPhone, rather than next year's model or one from the previous year's, just because it was found in the wild right now. It makes no sense for Apple to be testing 2011's model right now, in super finished form—they wouldn't be nearly finished with it. The phone also can't be last year's test model, because last year's model (based on the iPhone 3GS teardowns) components were way different. No micro-sim, much bigger logic board, no flash, no front camera, smaller battery and an inferior camera. That only leaves the 2010 model.

    The guts, the definitive proof
    And finally, when we opened it up, we saw multiple components that were clearly labeled APPLE. And, because the components were fit extremely well and extremely conformed inside the case (obvious that it was designed FOR this case), it was evident that it was not just a 3G or a 3GS transplanted into another body. That probably wouldn't even be possible, with the size constraints of the thinner device and larger battery.


    The New Industrial Design
    At first sight, this new iPhone's industrial design seems so different from the previous two generations that it could be discarded as just a provisional case. Even while the finish is so perfect that it feels right out of the factory, some of the design language elements that are common to all Apple products are not there. Gone is the flushed screen glass against the metal rim. Gone is the single volume button, replaced by two separate ones. Gone is the seamless rim, and gone are the tapered, curved surfaces.

    Despite that, however, this design is not a departure. Not when you frame it with the rest of the Apple product line. It's all the contrary: This new iPhone gets back to the simplicity of the iMac and the iPad. In fact, you can argue that the current iPhone 3GS—with its shiny chrome rim and excessively curved back—is out of place compared to the hard edges and Dieter-Ramish utilitarianism of the iMac and the iPad. Next to the iPad, for example, the new iPhone makes sense. It has the same feeling, the same functional simplicity.

    But why the black plastic back, instead of going with an unibody aluminum design? Why the two audio volume buttons? Why the seams? And why doesn't the back have any curvature at all?



    Why the plastic back?
    The plastic back is the most obvious of the design choices. The iPad, with its all aluminum back, has seen its Wi-Fi reception radius reduced. The 3G version comes with a large patch on the top, probably big enough to provide with good reception. But the new tiny iPhone doesn't have the luxury of space: It needs to provide as much signal as possible using a very small surface. I'm sure Jon Ive is dying to get rid of the plastic back, and go iPad-style all the way, but the wireless reception is the most important thing in a cellphone. A necessary aesthetical-functional trade-off.

    Why separate volume buttons?
    This new iPhone uses separate buttons for the volume instead of the single button that you can find in the iPhone, iPod touch, or iPad. It's one of the factors that may indicate that this is a provisional case, until you think about one of the most requested features for Apple's phone: A physical button for the camera. The new iPhone has a bigger sensor and a flash, which means that the camera function keeps gaining more weight. It's only logical to think that Apple may have implemented this two-button approach to provide with a physical shutter button. It makes sense.

    Why the seams?
    The seams are perhaps the most surprising aspect of the new design. They don't seem to respond to any aesthetic criteria and, in terms of function, we can't adventure any explanation. But they don't look bad. In fact, the whole effect seems good, like something you will find in a Braun product from the 70s.

    It's doubtful that the seams are arbitrary, however. Either they will disappear from the final product, or they have a function we can't foresee at this time.

    Why no tapering or curves?
    As you will see in a future article, the new iPhone is so miniaturized and packed that there's no room for the tapered, curved surfaces. Everything is as tight as it could get, with no space for anything but electronics.

    The hardware specs
    The phone measures 4.50 by 2.31 by 0.37 inches. It weighs 140 grams. The 3GS weighs 137 grams on a postal scale (and 135 on Apple's official measurements). So, in comparison, it's 3 grams heavier. The battery is 5.25 WHr at 3.7V, compared to the 3GS battery, which is 4.51 WHr at 3.7V. On the back of the phone, it said it was XX GB, but since we were unable to get the phone to a running state, we couldn't see exactly how large it was.



    How it feels
    Freaking amazing. As a person who never really liked the round mound of a back in the 3GS, the sleeker, flatter, squarer design is super welcome. It feels sturdier than the 3GS, and much less plasticky. The metal buttons give it a heftier feel—less of a toy—than all previous generations. The closest analog to it would be the original iPhone, which is more square and heavy than its newer brothers.

    It feels completely natural up to your face, and the fact that both the front and the back are glossy makes no difference on how well you can hold it without the phone slipping. And because it's thinner, it feels even nicer in your pants.



    What all this means
    Apple has updated the exterior drastically different from the 3G and 3GS. That design is old, it felt out of place compared to the rest of their products and needed desperately to be killed. Now you have a thinner body, a much more pleasant form factor with no wasted space and lots of hard lines. But the design isn't the most important part that's changed.

    They've delivered many of the features people have been waiting for—that damn front camera!—while at the same time upgrading everything else. Flash, better back camera, better battery life and another microphone for better voice clarity. People who bought the 3G two years ago and are now in the perfect position to upgrade and get a dramatically different, and better, phone. If confirmed this summer, and if it performs as we expect, this next-generation iPhone looks like a winner.

    go to gizmodo.com for pics and videos
    Last edited by AJV1989; 2010-04-19 at 10:14 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

  2. #102
    This has gotten so blown up its not even funny. I dont even give a **** anymore about it. Everyone has their opinions and its turned it to a giant effing war over something that may or may not be real. I highly doubt its a fake just because of the case, and the way this thing is made. I dont think some Chinese fake would be this well made, but you believe what you want. I'm going to just wait till june and see what Steve Jobs says about this new iphone if we get one at all.

    oh and @ berry_lthird: Poseidon79 beat me to it but you sound like an idiot so just shut up. You are definatly in the wrong place to be shooting things of about photoshop expertise when you have nothing to back up your claims. But I will wager with you that those photos have not been "shopped". Guess we should know in just under two and a half months.

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    If they can remotely turn it off, it shoulf have some kind of findmyi service. Can they not send the police over if they really want it back?

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    To AJV1989.. Dude next time just post the Hyper link! Many, if not all, people in this forum have already read all of that. While the info is useful for people who may not have seen it, there is no need to post what is already on another site.
    Last edited by reyg25atx; 2010-04-19 at 10:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southfrisco View Post
    80/84 GB doesn't make sense. Apple has doubled the storage in each revision.

    4 - 8 - 16 - 32 (iPhone 3Gs) - 64 (iPod Touch 3rd Gen)

    Next iPhone will probably have 64 GB to match the iPod Touch 3rd Gen. I would be surprised if they went 128 GB to surpass the iPod Touch 3rd Gen but who knows.

    Also 64 can be misinterpreted as 84 to some people depending on font type.


    It's not 80 or 84GB it's XXGB

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    Quote Originally Posted by one1 View Post
    Nawt gonna happen.

    1- ATT does not have a 4g network..... at ALL. Jobs just renewed his exclusivity contract with ATT.

    2- The 3g was designed with more ergonomics to get away from the brick 2g, they aren't going backwards.

    3- Apple and MicroSD? L-A-W-L.

    4- Fail vid is fail.

    5 - That's a modded 2G phone.
    Microsim not micro sd.... micro sd is a type of memory card and micro sim is a small sim card

    Quote Originally Posted by sami4021 View Post
    If they can remotely turn it off, it shoulf have some kind of findmyi service. Can they not send the police over if they really want it back?
    I know right? You would think that apple would actually use there tracking services on there devices that are really important to them....
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    Can someone explain to me this?

    IF this is the real deal, and IF this is THE actual next iPhone and someone FOUND this phone at a bar, WHY THE **** ARE THEY NOT RETURNING IT TO IT'S RIGHTFUL OWNER???? This is WRONG. On a huge scale. I hope that if this turns out to be the real deal, and Gizmodo and the person who found it still keep it, that Apple sues the holy hell out of them. This is plain wrong, you don't keep things like this if you find them. Is there no integrity left in the world?? Or it's fake. I'm going with fake or deliberately given to them to throw them off. Apple has invested way too much money to let something like this go and tip their hand.

    No way are they stupid enough to keep something like this AND show it off to the world. This HAS to be fake, or a deliberately sneaky leak to drum up hype.

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    I'm sure this is the real deal, Steve Jobs just tweeted, "ceoSteveJobs:Fired 30 people today and I still don't feel better." Surely firing took place caz of the missing prototype 4th gen iPhone! Lets just hope its a prototype n not the final product!

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    i love it! i cant wait to jailbreak it!
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    I'm still taking the evo 4g over the new iphone, whether this is it or not. I think this summer is going to be the time for me to make the iphone to android switch for these reasons:

    1) Evo 4g's specs are redonkulous. 1ghz snapdragon, 8mp rear camera and 1.3 mp front camera, 512 mb ram, hd playback and 720p hd recording, hdmi out, wimax support (even though it's not in my city yet)

    2) Sprint's Everything Data Plan gives more more than AT&T for way less. Unlimited Data, unlimited txt msgs, unlimited mobile to mobile calling on any network, and more landline minutes than I would possibly use. With 2 ppl on a family plan that's $65/person, at 3 ppl on plan it's $50/person, with 5 ppl on a plan that's $37/person

    3) Android 2.1 with sense is looking mighty sexy. Why work so hard to open up iphone OS when the android os is increasingly becoming an open source version of what iphone modders strive to make a closed iphone os become?

    In summary I'm tired of being under AT&T's (and apples to a lesser extent) thumb and I think this summer is going to be the time when android really gives the iphone a run for its money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KartRacer View Post
    Can someone explain to me this?

    IF this is the real deal, and IF this is THE actual next iPhone and someone FOUND this phone at a bar, WHY THE **** ARE THEY NOT RETURNING IT TO IT'S RIGHTFUL OWNER???? This is WRONG. On a huge scale. I hope that if this turns out to be the real deal, and Gizmodo and the person who found it still keep it, that Apple sues the holy hell out of them. This is plain wrong, you don't keep things like this if you find them. Is there no integrity left in the world?? Or it's fake. I'm going with fake or deliberately given to them to throw them off. Apple has invested way too much money to let something like this go and tip their hand.

    No way are they stupid enough to keep something like this AND show it off to the world. This HAS to be fake, or a deliberately sneaky leak to drum up hype.
    ever heard of the saying "finders keepers" ? lol

    although i do agree with you that almost all integrity left in this world is depleted by our corrupt society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by one1 View Post
    nawt gonna happen.

    1- att does not have a 4g network..... At all. Jobs just renewed his exclusivity contract with att.

    2- the 3g was designed with more ergonomics to get away from the brick 2g, they aren't going backwards.

    3- apple and microsd? L-a-w-l.

    4- fail vid is fail.

    5 - that's a modded 2g phone.
    learn to read... Micro SIM

    Quote Originally Posted by itmustbejj View Post
    I'm still taking the evo 4g over the new iphone, whether this is it or not. I think this summer is going to be the time for me to make the iphone to android switch for these reasons:

    1) Evo 4g's specs are redonkulous. 1ghz snapdragon, 8mp rear camera and 1.3 mp front camera, 512 mb ram, hd playback and 720p hd recording, hdmi out, wimax support (even though it's not in my city yet)

    2) Sprint's Everything Data Plan gives more more than AT&T for way less. Unlimited Data, unlimited txt msgs, unlimited mobile to mobile calling on any network, and more landline minutes than I would possibly use. With 2 ppl on a family plan that's $65/person, at 3 ppl on plan it's $50/person, with 5 ppl on a plan that's $37/person

    3) Android 2.1 with sense is looking mighty sexy. Why work so hard to open up iphone OS when the android os is increasingly becoming an open source version of what iphone modders strive to make a closed iphone os become?

    In summary I'm tired of being under AT&T's (and apples to a lesser extent) thumb and I think this summer is going to be the time when android really gives the iphone a run for its money.
    1-2 included. Lines 3-5 are $19.99/mo./line.
    $70 for 900min, plus using all five lines... +$60. Plus taxes... +$10
    $140 / 5 = $28
    900 / 5 = 180min each <-- LOL

    OH YA, don't forget on those new data heavy android phones you have to have a data plan per phone!




    My Acer Liquid could play back 720P, nothing special there...
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    Not doubting anyone here but i'm from Redwood City, how about the bar name or just a location, just in case I wanna drop in for a drink

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kil0111 View Post
    ever heard of the saying "finders keepers" ? lol

    although i do agree with you that almost all integrity left in this world is depleted by our corrupt society.
    I thought of that too! But you'd be very very stupid to keep this phone, much less show it off, if it was the real thing. The legal ramifications are waaaaay too big!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rubayed View Post
    I'm sure this is the real deal, Steve Jobs just tweeted, "ceoSteveJobs:Fired 30 people today and I still don't feel better." Surely firing took place caz of the missing prototype 4th gen iPhone! Lets just hope its a prototype n not the final product!
    dude, i have reason to believe that twitt account is fake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KartRacer View Post
    Can someone explain to me this?

    IF this is the real deal, and IF this is THE actual next iPhone and someone FOUND this phone at a bar, WHY THE **** ARE THEY NOT RETURNING IT TO IT'S RIGHTFUL OWNER???? This is WRONG. On a huge scale. I hope that if this turns out to be the real deal, and Gizmodo and the person who found it still keep it, that Apple sues the holy hell out of them. This is plain wrong, you don't keep things like this if you find them. Is there no integrity left in the world?? Or it's fake. I'm going with fake or deliberately given to them to throw them off. Apple has invested way too much money to let something like this go and tip their hand.

    No way are they stupid enough to keep something like this AND show it off to the world. This HAS to be fake, or a deliberately sneaky leak to drum up hype.
    I agree to not return something to the rightful owner is wrong and that is where I stand on that issue. Now the "it is Fake issue." People in this forum cannot prove this is real or this is fake. The only one who knows the truth are Apple and the person holding it in their hand right now. People are going to believe what they want to believe. It is called Hope. I hope it is real because I know what to look forward too and it is good to see Apple (3 iPhones later)have given their consumers what they have wanted hardware wise. If it is fake, boy will I be red in the face later. until then "to each his own!"
    Last edited by reyg25atx; 2010-04-19 at 10:51 PM.

  17. #117
    I recently got my 3Gs and to be honest, I am quite happy with it... No doubt I'll get the next iPhone 4G at some point but it definitely won't be in June or this year for that matter. Why?

    Because:

    - It is a completely new device and the full on jailbreak is likely to take long.

    - It's cost at launch and a possible 18 month contract with o2 (UK).

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    when does the jailbreak come out from this?

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    Is this a "varified" Twitter account? I don't see it, looking again now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kil0111 View Post
    dude, i have reason to believe that twitt account is fake.
    I respect whatever reason u have to believe that the account is fake but sadly u r wrong! Its commonly known to all apple people that its his account. Perhaps u r late in this but google a bit n u'll know its his genuine account

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