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    Quote Originally Posted by supr2nr View Post
    Another thing someone else mentioned. You never hear of anyone jailbreaking (modding) their blackberry to get a function to work. Truth is all of the more basic functions like MMS, Video Recording, Video Editing, COPY AND PASTE!!!!, voice dialing were all there from the start of the blackberry and if they weren't they were added by a software load, NOT BRAND NEW PHONES THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY $500-$700 FOR!!!!!. Truth is all of the basic functions that everyone needs for their email (like push notifications) have been there for years but has only truly become a huge issues lately because Apple didn't support it.
    this is my gripe right now i want a video recorder and better camera but dont want to pay 600 for the new 3gs, i just went and had to spend 200 bc my 3g had water damage and that pissed me off to no end, sure i can jailbreak and get cycorder but if they cant intergrate that program with other programs like mms, email or facebook why should i even have it when blackberry has video options already on the phone ... i dont know i love my iphone but the basic funtions of a phone that were missing (mms,video,better camera) finally came in a 3gs upgrade TWO years later and 600 more, they had everyone run to get a 3g i was guilty of it just for the technology then come out with another new one one year later and tell you that you cant upgrade and have to pay full price ... its bull, then next june another one will come out and so forth and so on, plus apple has no care for its loyal customers, ive been an apple user since before it was cool but now that they are the 'it' thing they are turning into real jerks

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    I have several iphones and have had several blackberries, including a Bold right now. I love both for different reasons, if they mated the outcome would be the perfect phone

  3. #63
    Dude I work with has the Blackberry Storm and I wouldn't touch that POS with a 10 foot pole. The UI is horrible, the screen moving when you touch it is annoying as hell, and the settings pages are impossible to navigate. I'll never be able to use a regular stock iPhone without being disappointed after jailbreaking, much less using any other phone.

  4. #64
    ^I agree, Blackberries attempt at a touch-screen (Storm) was a complete fail.

    All there other phones are good.

    And yeah I dont think I could happily use a stock iphone either.

  5. #65
    I cant use the blackberries, i cant use the keyboard.

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    I've owned a BB Curve and switched to iPhone. I've used the iphone for work and can do everything I could on my BB.

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    A buddy of mine also has the BB Storm, and he loves it because he's used to the BB interface and likes to have push e-mail. I've tried using it and I find the interface clunky and difficult to use, but I'm sure that if I got used to it then I'd be fine with it.

    The touch screen keyboard on the Storm isn't really that bad either. I've used it and sure it takes some getting used to after using the iPhone (clicking the whole screen just feels weird to me) but after a while I was fine with it. But the BBs with the actual button keyboard piss me off to no end. I have quick thumbs due to a lifetime of console gaming, but I have large hands and pushing a small button with my thumb just doesn't work. I need a touchscreen keyboard to take my thumb image, figure out where the center of the press was, and then push that key. Even on web pages that aren't very zoomed in I can usually push a small hyperlink very easily with my large thumb and the iPhone knows exactly what I want to do. Using the keyboard on the iPhone I can usually hit about 30 wpm with few errors thanks to the autocorrect, although it's not perfect and I often have to proofread before I hit send. Still, it's not nearly as bad as the typos that come up when I'm trying to type on a BB Bold keyboard or on a Samsung Blackjack.

    I agree with everybody's gripes about how the iPhone does all these things that no other phone does while leaving out things that every other phone does. The fact that MMS and tethering are just now coming to the iPhone is ridiculous. But as Apple starts getting all these other features under their belt and starts catching up on what other phones have been doing for years, and continues releasing things that no other phone can do, they have a potential to release an absolutely fantastic phone. I think that next summer's model (which we all know there will be one - why break the cycle this year?) will have some pretty cool stuff and capabilities, and I'm stoked to be upgrade eligible at the time so I can go and get one.

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    people who can't type on the iphone are retards. and i don't care how big your fingers are. it's still the most accurate and easy to use keyboard i have ever used. and i've had many other different types of phones... with different OS's, different input methods, etc.

    i can type 10 times faster on the iphone than any other phone. btw, using the broad part of your thumb actually works better than trying to tilt your finger to use the edge.

    although the battery life does suck balls..

  9. #69
    There are a lot of little issues that makes me look for a different device on a daily basis. I enjoy my iPhone & will agree with the others, there is no way I could ever be happy with a stock iPhone.
    My biggest complaint is bluetooth headsets. The whole concept of hands free communication is to NOT have to look at my phone to answer it. I have never seen a device that required the user to answer the call by touching the screen to use the connected bluetooth device.
    I drive a lot & my work requires hands free communication. We are not allowed to use iPhones just because of this reason.
    The lack of organization just irritates the hell out of me. Having to resort to apps like categories is ridiculous. There are some handy jailbroken apps, but categories is just to limited for what it does.

    Apple needs to relax & let go of some of its our way or no way attitude. Let developers start bringing in serious apps. How many fart apps does a store need? If Apple wants to be the 1 stop store for apps fine but loosen up. So what if an app performs similar functions. Your making money from it.
    I have the 3GS & if Apple doesn't change some things by the time the next iPhone is released this will be my last. Having a work phone & a toy phone is not needed with today's technologies. There are plenty of phones that can do both.

    Switching to a Blackberry...No way.
    Last edited by Cokeman; 2009-09-15 at 01:31 AM.
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    BLACKBERRY these nuts!!!!!!! iPhone 4 life!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by supr2nr View Post
    Truth is all of the more basic functions like MMS, Video Recording, Video Editing, COPY AND PASTE!!!!, voice dialing were all there from the start of the blackberry and if they weren't they were added by a software load, NOT BRAND NEW PHONES THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY $500-$700 FOR!!!!!.

    The iPhone is a great phone for a younger person looking to carry their music, some apps, and make phone calls. That's about it. Someone who needs a professional phone that will help them perform in their job needs something more along the line as a blackberry that actually can do everything we already need it to do.
    Really? MMS? Video Recording? Video Editing? On a BB from the start? Or added by software? You can add a camera lens via software update to a device that doesn't have one?



    The iPhone is great for younger people? You are confusing the iTouch (no monthly bill) with the iPhone (monthly bill). Younger people will be attracted to the iTouch where business professionals will be attracted to smartphones and PDA devices.

    Unfortunately the iPhone doesn't have an app for close minded individuals.
    "To unpathed waters, undreamed shores." -- William Shakespeare

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpjr View Post
    I have several iphones and have had several blackberries, including a Bold right now. I love both for different reasons, if they mated the outcome would be the perfect phone
    Perfect, lol. I am a smartphone freak and have been through a fair amount of different smartphones. I loved them all for different reasons. You put it perfectly .

    Side note: I expect this thread to get big responses. You just wrote about 2 major players to people.
    Last edited by Cer0; 2009-09-15 at 02:24 AM.

  13. #73
    Wow, people complain about something that has to do with macs or Apple and they are treated like the enemy.

    oh so this is what an Elites is. Thanks for opening my mind.

  14. #74
    I have had a lot of phones in the past 2 years and have always went back to the iphone for these reasons. Easy to use and has the best touch screen available. There is no phone out that has a screen or ui that is as smooth as the iphone. But, when another phone maker comes out with a comparable touch screen and has all the functions that everyone is missing with their iphone. Look out Apple, Palm almost did it. I went and checked out the Palm this weekend and its a pretty cool phone. I just cant type on that little keyboard. I love the iphone keyboard! Also cant wait to see what the BB Storm 2 has to offer as far as touch screen. I might switch.

  15. #75
    Had BB's and Nokia E61 (which I preferred to the BB's). I can pretty much do everything I did with those and more on my iPhone. For me the thing is platform maturity. By the time another platform rivals the iPhone's touch interface, the Apple platform will be that much more advanced. For me, there's no comparison, not really.

  16. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by clive.weller View Post

    In particular I refer to the non existance of full function bluetooth whereupon I cannot transfer my contacts list to my car SATNAV headset and to this end not use the system as a full hands free unit as intended.

    If Apple decides to wake up from its comma then I shall remain happily with the iPhone and indeed upgrade as necessary in the future.
    Sorry mate, don't know what is up with your car's bluetooth operation, but my stock Audi MMI system picks up the iPhone contact list in seconds. It also allows me to look at dialed numbers, missed calls, and received calls right on the dash interface. I have to remind myself sometimes to use the car and not the iphone as it's easier navigate and control right from the steering wheel.

    For those who can't work the touch screen to type easily, I feel sorry. I can type very quick no probs at all, even with fairly large hands. I'm certainly not a kid either being in my late 30's. I'm also a business user, although I don't live and breath emails in my position, people can wait or pick up the phone if it's that urgent. I'm quite impressed with apps like Intelliscreen that are useful when I'm on the road. Really handy way of seeing what emails are coming through without any fuss and also see my calendar. I can't personally see the point with messaging apps vs sms frankly. The SMS conversation chain is so easy work with in itself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Teoyaomqui View Post
    Wow, people complain about something that has to do with macs or Apple and they are treated like the enemy.

    oh so this is what an Elites is. Thanks for opening my mind.
    Could you be any more narrow in your perception. I'm a PC head through and through but I can see the functionality of the iPhone through and through. I tried going over to CE on both the LG Omnia and HTC Touch HD. I got rid of both after a week and kept using my iPhone. I've also toyed with several 'Hackintosh' PC installs and had a bit of fun there, but I personally keep finding don't have need to operate in Leopard over Win 7.
    Last edited by Ozdude; 2009-09-15 at 05:01 AM.

  17. #77
    I now have both, I've been using a Blackberry for 5+ years, and will probably be using one for the next 5 years. I got the first generation Ipod touch ( which I eventually sold) and replaced it with an older 2G Iphone to use as an Ipod, and for it's Music making apps and Games, and of course to watch Revision3 shows via Podcast before bed (Tekzilla, HD Nation, etc). I use both devices daily but they serve different purposes for me. They DO work out great as the Batman and Robin of my digital life.
    but then again , I also own a MAC and a PC and again they both co-exist and are critical for the tasks they each perform. No choice is the best choice, Multiple devices gets the job done nicely.

  18. #78
    To all those who say you can't type on the touch screen and you need tactile response:
    I have written 1000 word essays on my iphone first gen. Very easy. I have many friends with BB's and they are surprised at how easy it is to type on the iphone and with in-line corrections, it just wins over anything else. I can type faster on my iPhone then I can on my laptop. (not literally, but its damn close!)

    it all comes down to personal choice. I choose the iphone and it works great for me.

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    I had a blackberry pearl before getting my iphone. I loved the Pearl!! It was easy to type on, had great battery life and was surprisingly durable. I dropped it several times and aside from regular knicks and scuffs from the falls it held up very well. The interchangeable battery was nice, as well as the easy to clean trackball. I also liked that it had a standard mini-USB charging port, because all the phones I had before were motorolas with the same charging port- reducing the need to repurchase all charging accessories.

    The problem with my blackberry was the internet wasn't easy to use. The interface, to me, was terrible and not very intuitive. I paid $20/mo for a service I didn't find friendly at all. GMaps (downloaded) was good though, the only thing I ever really used the internet for. So I scrapped my blackberry and got the iPhone. Since I'm on TMobile I only pay $10/mo now for EDGE service (which is actually pretty quick on the 3gs, ~200kbps) and the interface is SO EASY. Mail is the same on both sides but I don't even use it that much. Plus the iPhone has my vote for all the apps/games you can add on, as well as doubling for an iPod which lets me upload movies to my phone so I can watch them if I'm stuck at work or traveling. It's nice. I used to have an iPod Touch + phone, now it's all in one. Although, my uses for the iPhone are purely entertainment/boredom driven. I'd only say about %5 or less is "productivity" stuff I'm doing.

    Alternatively, my boyfriend has a blackberry curve and he loves that thing. He's on Sprint so he gets good speeds, it's cheaper than his old Cingular plan (which he used an older blackberry on and didn't get 3G) and he likes the full qwerty. He, like many other blackberry/palm users out there, really dislikes the touch keyboard on my iPhone. And all the things I use my iPhone for- he simply wouldn't use it that way. And all the things he does with his blackberry, I don't use my iPhone for that.

    In my opinion, the iPhone is just a really cool gadget. I've even equated it to being like the Green Lantern ring- It can do [virtually] anything you can think of, but you have to recharge it every 24 hours. The blackberry's and palm's- they're more like Batman- just as capable but a lot more practical.

  20. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by Melech518 View Post
    One last thing, What other company provides updates constantly for their devices that add features that most would have to buy a new phone to get? Yes I know BB has updates as well, but never as significant as iPhone software updates. So many iPhone users still have their 1st gen iPhones and even their 3G they bought in the first few days it was released, and are able to use almost all of the same features and functions as everyone else running 3.0, 3.0.1, or 3.1 on an iPhone. How many BB users still have the first BB every made and are able to use it with the same functionality of the Bold or the Curve?
    This is the key reason for me to stick with my iPhone. I am still using my first generation 2G phone and continue to update consistently.
    But really,we are comparing apple(s) and oranges...personal preference/diversity.
    Can't we all just get along...LOL

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