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Thread: New Features in iPhone Firmware 3.1 beta 3

  1. #101
    i enjoy the option of being able to download an app prior to purchase and test driving it.

    not all apps have lite versions. how many times have you aid for something only too realize what a complete POS it ended up being? "ZOMFG a whole $1!?! Get over it E; Cheap0!" ...yea $1's add up especially when apps i have purchased individually surpassed $10...

    i support the work of those whose tools i use, BUT i for one will sit on 3.0 for as long as i am able and continue to have an option to try something before committing. Stealing ? i think not.

    piracy has always had this silver lining, which i am very thankful for.

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Melech518 View Post
    Lol, really?

    He explained that already leave it alone..

    That makes no sense and has no comparison for the point you are trying to make but thanks for throwing that in there!

    You obviously havent been paying attention at all...Thanks for stopping bye
    it does have the same comparison i just dont want to sit here and try to explain it to you..(im sorry that its too complex for u to understand) he POSTED THE FILE
    which allows u to install cracked apps in the first place
    doesnt matter, isnt he a mod? dont they enforce the rules? wasnt that clearly against the rules? saying the firmware was in beta and were still trying to figure things out isnt an excuse..why would u have the file in the first place? i thought he said he doesnt have 1 cracked app on his computer..and then turn around to say that lol thats hypocritical.

    thats like a criminal trying to be a cop now
    like giving drugs out and then say drugs are illegal and are bad
    Last edited by Apple.; 2009-07-29 at 03:01 PM.

  3. #103
    on a different note.....does anyone know if the 3.1 beta fixes the infamous wifi problem? My wifi (or lack there of) is driving me nuts....

  4. #104
    Bah...I give it a week before apple's new "security to prevent pirated apps" is broken. I believe the new daemon is called 'mobile_integrity_relay'. Musclenerd from devteam is already looking into it
    Last edited by dayloon; 2009-07-29 at 03:17 PM.

  5. #105
    This thread is hilarious.
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  6. #106
    better to look stupid then open ones mouth and remove all doubt
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  7. #107
    ^+1

    well said
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  8. #108
    I think this whole thing is very hypocritical. This is a site/forum which encourages you to mod your iphone. According to apple in a recent statement (on wired.com), jailbreaking "Is illegal and aids drug dealers and CyberAttacks". They say "Jailbreaking an iPhone constitutes copyright infringement and a DMCA violation". Obviously everyone here is going to disagree with that and find it almost laughable. Yet the same people are telling off all those naughty people who break the law by downloading an app. What a load of crap. If you're a strict law abiding citizen then leave your iphone as it is, don't JB it or unlock it and download your apps from the appstore.

  9. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by thu6 View Post
    i enjoy the option of being able to download an app prior to purchase and test driving it.

    not all apps have lite versions. how many times have you aid for something only too realize what a complete POS it ended up being? "ZOMFG a whole $1!?! Get over it E; Cheap0!" ...yea $1's add up especially when apps i have purchased individually surpassed $10...

    i support the work of those whose tools i use, BUT i for one will sit on 3.0 for as long as i am able and continue to have an option to try something before committing. Stealing ? i think not.

    piracy has always had this silver lining, which i am very thankful for.
    And just how many users of stolen apps do you believe merely "test them out" and then purchase the legit version once they've satisfied themselves the app is worth the price?

    (Hint: the answer is somewhere between "none" and "zero")

    Quote Originally Posted by dayloon View Post
    I think this whole thing is very hypocritical. This is a site/forum which encourages you to mod your iphone. According to apple in a recent statement (on wired.com), jailbreaking "Is illegal and aids drug dealers and CyberAttacks". They say "Jailbreaking an iPhone constitutes copyright infringement and a DMCA violation". Obviously everyone here is going to disagree with that and find it almost laughable. Yet the same people are telling off all those naughty people who break the law by downloading an app. What a load of crap. If you're a strict law abiding citizen then leave your iphone as it is, don't JB it or unlock it and download your apps from the appstore.
    Your argument is misguided. People who jailbreak and install Cydia apps aren't stealing from Apple -- they're merely preventing Apple from exercising total control over what goes on the iPhone. It's called CHOICE, not THEFT.
    Last edited by eballesq; 2009-07-29 at 04:20 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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  11. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by eballesq View Post
    Your argument is misguided. People who jailbreak and install Cydia apps aren't stealing from Apple -- they're merely preventing Apple from exercising total control over what goes on the iPhone. It's called CHOICE, not THEFT.
    I didn't mention cydia at all in my post. My argument is that both are illegal (as stated above, apple say Jailbreaking an iPhone constitutes copyright infringement due to the fact that the iPhone's firmware is protected by the Copyright Act, and circumventing the access controls in place to get at that code is a violation of the DMCA) so why is 1 more justifiable that the other ? Also, whether you want to believe it or not - people do try before they buy. For example, i downloaded a copy of beejive and IM+ to see which one I preferred. I used them both for about 4 days each and then purchased beejive.
    Last edited by dayloon; 2009-07-29 at 05:09 PM.

  12. #111
    Default Just got off the phone with Apple Corporate
    Quote Originally Posted by dayloon View Post
    I think this whole thing is very hypocritical. This is a site/forum which encourages you to mod your iphone. According to apple in a recent statement (on wired.com), jailbreaking "Is illegal and aids drug dealers and CyberAttacks". They say "Jailbreaking an iPhone constitutes copyright infringement and a DMCA violation". Obviously everyone here is going to disagree with that and find it almost laughable. Yet the same people are telling off all those naughty people who break the law by downloading an app. What a load of crap. If you're a strict law abiding citizen then leave your iphone as it is, don't JB it or unlock it and download your apps from the appstore.
    Apple coincidentally called me this morning. I had an ad on craigslist miami advertising free help for unlocking and jialbreaking with a pretty picture of an iPhone. Apple called to request I remove their picture at once because it was infringing upon their intellectual property rights. I immediately, for fun, asked to get to the highest person at Apple I could speak with. The "supervisor" wanted to tell me "not only are you using a graphic from Apple.com, but you are also advertising to jailbreak and unlock iPhones for free". I told him," wait a minute buddy, we both know jailbreaking/unlocking are not illegal, no matter how hard you try to make it illegal, and do not abide to copyright infringement". His response to that, "Yeah I know its not illegal but we dont like it....."

    I rest my case....

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  13. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by dayloon View Post
    I think this whole thing is very hypocritical. This is a site/forum which encourages you to mod your iphone. According to apple in a recent statement (on wired.com), jailbreaking "Is illegal and aids drug dealers and CyberAttacks". They say "Jailbreaking an iPhone constitutes copyright infringement and a DMCA violation". Obviously everyone here is going to disagree with that and find it almost laughable. Yet the same people are telling off all those naughty people who break the law by downloading an app. What a load of crap. If you're a strict law abiding citizen then leave your iphone as it is, don't JB it or unlock it and download your apps from the appstore.
    quick question. how does jailbreaking an iphone aid drug dealers?
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  14. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by mattharris85 View Post
    quick question. how does jailbreaking an iphone aid drug dealers?
    I have no idea, better ask apple as they made the following statement to wired.com :

    "Apple has argued that consumers who wish to jailbreak their mobile phones and change the device's unique serial number must be drug dealers or other criminals."

    Each iPhone contains a unique Exclusive Chip Identification (ECID) number that identifies the phone to the cell tower. With access to the BBP via jailbreaking, hackers may be able to change the ECID, which in turn can enable phone calls to be made anonymously (this would be desirable to drug dealers, for example) or charges for the calls to be avoided."

  15. #114
    thanks for explaining that lol cause when i first read it i was like wtf
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    Quote Originally Posted by eballesq View Post
    Your argument is misguided. People who jailbreak and install Cydia apps aren't stealing from Apple -- they're merely preventing Apple from exercising total control over what goes on the iPhone. It's called CHOICE, not THEFT.
    Just a clarification .

    No doubt Apple also calls jb'ing THEFT - because they are being 'robbed' of potential income from AppStore apps. So the distinction between jb'ing and using cracked apps is very small. Both result in lost income. One is just more obvious than the other.

    This JMHO.

  17. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by Mes View Post
    Just a clarification .

    No doubt Apple also calls jb'ing THEFT - because they are being 'robbed' of potential income from AppStore apps. So the distinction between jb'ing and using cracked apps is very small. Both result in lost income. One is just more obvious than the other.

    This JMHO.
    I totally agree. Realistically, i don't think a jailbreaker can get on his/her high horse about somebody who downloads and installs an IPA. If somebody is that keen on following the law word for word, use your vanilla iphone without jailbreaking or unlocking it.

  18. #117
    O.k..... After reading the last 8 pages of this thread and LMAO, let me see if I got this all straight:

    a) It's o.k. to test drive, but not o.k. to steal.
    b) It's o.k. to JailBreak, but not o.k. to steal.
    c) It's o.k. to use Cydia, but not o.k. to steal.
    d) It's o.k. to unlock and use a different carrier, but not o.k. to steal.

    In conclusion, I guess we can all JailBreak, unlock, use Cydia, and just test drive "for a really long time" and all that will not be stealing, cool!!!!

    One other great benefit from this thread, I get to LMAO at work........ you guys are the best!!! Keep up the good work!

  19. #118
    Quote Originally Posted by StealthBravo View Post
    Best part of 3.1 B3 is the elimination of cracked apps. Goodbye pirates, you had a good run

    Don't worry someone will crack it . It might take time, but there's always a way. Apple should know by now. I mean we've managed to jailbreak and unlock all the firmwares up to 3.0 and the others ones are soon to come. We've been able to jailbreak the new iPod Touch and iPhone.

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    ^ I love when people use the term "we" like they had something to do with it. You downloaded a piece of software and used it. LMAO. Sure it will be cracked, I was just warning everyone that they might not have their precious stolen apps for a little while.

    The debate about this is over in this thread. Next person posting something about cracking, piracy, or anything other warez will get an infraction.

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  21. #120
    Default 3.1 beta 3 bugs...
    anyone else having the ipod reshuffling and organizing all the artists by their album artist name and not just by the regular artist?

    its pissing me off finding all these random artists i never knew i had only to find they're on someone elses album and there isn't a song to listen to when i choose them. other than that everything else is just fine with beta 3 and i get M-Cell EVERYWHERE already in San Diego, CA.
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