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    Quote Originally Posted by z3r01 View Post
    Productivity doesn't mean office apps or USB ports and slots....

    Definition of productivity: the rate at which goods are produced or work is completed.

    Using my surface pro against my ipad in MANY tests of productivity are as followed-

    Music production: surface pro is standard time I would produce a track or mix and master on a regular PC not to mention the HUGE latency issues faced on the surface pro....iPad , I cut have my time using various music apps and audiobus to create 16 track instrumentals with multiple effects and instruments (garage band, fl studio)

    Photo manipulation: installed Photoshop and it's just as normal as working on my PC....iPad has a sat range of apps to manipulate photos including PSTouch. Not as productive as Photoshop but if I'm seriously in need to work on something hard, I would just use my MacBook Pro which is more efficient then surface pro...

    Documents: surface pro has full blown office suite. Can create documents and use the keyboard cover. iPad....well......does the exact same thing and I can share them...dunno what that MS exec was talking about....both the same.

    Fitness: I really.....well...can't do anything fitness related on surface pro except log on to nike+ or other fitness websites....iPad , I can run with my iPad and have these three running to tell me my heart rate, calories burned , steps taken, distance traveled, route my run, and track nutrition, and listen to my music.....(Nike+ run, mapmyrun, 0 to 5k)...that's productivity.....
    That's was funny,
    I too have tried to use an iPad for all the reasons you listed and bottom line is it's too limited. Especially when the Surface Pro is available in the same form factor.
    Productivity does relate to USB ports, media cards, mouse, etc. IF you actually have used the iPad for the reasons listed you would have learned long ago trying to share your productive work is a hassle. Your limited to what's in their share pop-up. Also who in their right mind would make you purchase a certain printer to print from an iPad Hmmmm APPLE.
    Your also forgetting the Surface Pro is a full fledged Laptop running full suite versions of software. Don't even compare Photoshop CS6 on Surface to PS Touch on iPad. That caused milk to shoot out my nose.
    Music Production: Another laughable comparison. With over 20 years experience of producing all types of music, I have given the iPad a chance during various sessions in the studio. I have used the Protools controller a few times and do like it. But that is it. The apps you listed (fruity loops, garage band) and great for beginners and it's evident in terms of quality. Your forgetting again the surface Pro is a dual core 4gb ram, 80gb solid state drive computer/tablet. I do use adobe audition and other industry standard recording software when traveling. No comparison there between the two. Sure if your a pre-recorded loop user the apps you listed are good for you. To me what's available on the App Store is really a gimmick (nano studio, beat maker 2, garage band, etc) great for kids though.
    Documents: Don't even compare Microsoft office to what iWork does on the iPad. From a business and productivity perspective iWork is dumbed down. And that really sums up the iPad in two words. Its great for kids to waste time on, but not for business. I'm sure you can run an app that will make a small part of your job convenient but no way can you work on an iPad. I can however run AutoCad 2014, Full Office Suite, Full Adobe Suites, and they actually work the way the developers intended it to work.
    Comparing the Surface Pro to the iPad is apples to oranges. Most people on this forum that state they used the Surface probably just walked past it in BestBuy and played with it for 5 minutes to determine what they already own is better.
    To put this debate to rest, when Apple releases an iPad that runs full blown OS X we can do this again. Until then quit acting like Apple knows best and enjoy the competition between the two companies. Use both to your advantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Striknine View Post
    A new revolutionary device is not in Apples future anytime soon. Just regurgitated success.
    This last sentence is hilarious.
    Surface and Surface Pro are MS attempts at copying Apple's regurgitated success.
    Resulting in the usual Microsoft Failure. Remember Zune? Windows phone with a start button?
    Microsoft will get it right eventually. By accident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by z3r01 View Post
    Productivity doesn't mean office apps or USB ports and slots....

    Definition of productivity: the rate at which goods are produced or work is completed.

    Using my surface pro against my ipad in MANY tests of productivity are as followed-

    Music production: surface pro is standard time I would produce a track or mix and master on a regular PC not to mention the HUGE latency issues faced on the surface pro....iPad , I cut have my time using various music apps and audiobus to create 16 track instrumentals with multiple effects and instruments (garage band, fl studio)

    Photo manipulation: installed Photoshop and it's just as normal as working on my PC....iPad has a sat range of apps to manipulate photos including PSTouch. Not as productive as Photoshop but if I'm seriously in need to work on something hard, I would just use my MacBook Pro which is more efficient then surface pro...

    Documents: surface pro has full blown office suite. Can create documents and use the keyboard cover. iPad....well......does the exact same thing and I can share them...dunno what that MS exec was talking about....both the same.

    Fitness: I really.....well...can't do anything fitness related on surface pro except log on to nike+ or other fitness websites....iPad , I can run with my iPad and have these three running to tell me my heart rate, calories burned , steps taken, distance traveled, route my run, and track nutrition, and listen to my music.....(Nike+ run, mapmyrun, 0 to 5k)...that's productivity.....
    ...nobody denied that the iPad is a cool hardware for leasure time. "Jogging" with an iPad under the arm is also fun. Because nobody would ever spend just one cent for "music" produced on the iPad, this belongs also to the category fun/leasure time
    ;-)

    Quote Originally Posted by Striknine View Post
    That's was funny,
    I too have tried to use an iPad for all the reasons you listed and bottom line is it's too limited. Especially when the Surface Pro is available in the same form factor.
    Productivity does relate to USB ports, media cards, mouse, etc. IF you actually have used the iPad for the reasons listed you would have learned long ago trying to share your productive work is a hassle. Your limited to what's in their share pop-up. Also who in their right mind would make you purchase a certain printer to print from an iPad Hmmmm APPLE.
    Your also forgetting the Surface Pro is a full fledged Laptop running full suite versions of software. Don't even compare Photoshop CS6 on Surface to PS Touch on iPad. That caused milk to shoot out my nose.
    Music Production: Another laughable comparison. With over 20 years experience of producing all types of music, I have given the iPad a chance during various sessions in the studio. I have used the Protools controller a few times and do like it. But that is it. The apps you listed (fruity loops, garage band) and great for beginners and it's evident in terms of quality. Your forgetting again the surface Pro is a dual core 4gb ram, 80gb solid state drive computer/tablet. I do use adobe audition and other industry standard recording software when traveling. No comparison there between the two. Sure if your a pre-recorded loop user the apps you listed are good for you. To me what's available on the App Store is really a gimmick (nano studio, beat maker 2, garage band, etc) great for kids though.
    Documents: Don't even compare Microsoft office to what iWork does on the iPad. From a business and productivity perspective iWork is dumbed down. And that really sums up the iPad in two words. Its great for kids to waste time on, but not for business. I'm sure you can run an app that will make a small part of your job convenient but no way can you work on an iPad. I can however run AutoCad 2014, Full Office Suite, Full Adobe Suites, and they actually work the way the developers intended it to work.
    Comparing the Surface Pro to the iPad is apples to oranges. Most people on this forum that state they used the Surface probably just walked past it in BestBuy and played with it for 5 minutes to determine what they already own is better.
    To put this debate to rest, when Apple releases an iPad that runs full blown OS X we can do this again. Until then quit acting like Apple knows best and enjoy the competition between the two companies. Use both to your advantage.
    word

    u seem to be the first guy here who does not refer to sitting on the couch and watching vidoes, playing browser games and being on facebook when talking about productivity!
    Last edited by RockOn_23; 2013-10-26 at 09:59 PM.

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