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  • Alphabet’s Eric Schmidt Says Samsung is Better Even as he Uses an iPhone

    Alphabet’s chairman, Eric Schmidt, is well known as a major presence within the Android army, but he’s not afraid to use the competition’s devices.


    Schmidt spoke with CNBC recently at an event in Amsterdam, and the Alphabet chairman confirmed that he’s someone that still carries around two smartphones. Right now that means he’s carrying around an iPhone 6s from Apple, and a Samsung Galaxy S7. The publication asked him which one he prefers, and his response was pretty obvious:

    “Samsung S7 is better. It has a better battery. And those of you who are iPhone users (know) I’m right,” Schmidt said”
    However, at the same time, it’s also a curious answer because Alphabet owns Google, which has its own Nexus lineup of devices. While Schmidt may be enjoying his time trolling iPhone owners out there with his bold statement regarding battery life and iPhone owners knowing the “truth,” one could also argue that Schmidt is giving a clear hat tip to Samsung actually making the better Android-based devices, too.

    It’s not that big of a surprise that Schmidt uses an iPhone, even if he’s openly admitting that fact right now. He was pictured using the iPhone earlier this year, for instance. And he’s been known to use the competition’s devices as far back as the BlackBerry 9900 when he was on Apple’s board.

    Still, what do you think of Schmidt’s comments about battery life, and preferring Samsung’s Galaxy S7 over the iPhone 6s?

    [via CNBC]
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Alphabet’s Eric Schmidt Says Samsung is Better Even as he Uses an iPhone started by Caiden Spencer View original post
    Comments 17 Comments
    1. se23's Avatar
      se23 -
      My phone is the only one of everyday gadgets that's not apple. I have a MacBook and iPad and use them everyday for work but my s6 edge marshmallow is just to awesome to part with.
    1. therandy's Avatar
      therandy -
      i can honestly say that I've never had a problem with any of my iPhones battery life. Maybe I'm not important enough to be on it enough...but, if that was his only complaint (a physical one), than I will assume that he thinks the OS is superior. Because he is also an Android user, I will also assume he (knows) I'm right....Randy Said =)
    1. fleurya's Avatar
      fleurya -
      “Samsung S7 is better. It has a better battery. And those of you who are iPhone users (know) I’m right,”

      1. Schmidt should be smart enough to know better than to use anecdotal evidence in uncontrolled conditions as evidence of anything. So his claim that Samsung has better battery life.
      2. How are iPhone users supposed to know what he claims about Samsung is right if they don’t own a Samsung phone? Not everyone bothers using two phones, Schmidty!

      Reason I use an iPhone:
      1. It does everything I need. I don’t need all the customizing bells and whistles of android. I have too much going on in my life to play with phone settings all day.
      2. My battery lasts all day, so another phone lasting longer does not interest me.
      3. I like to pay with my products with money, not my personal data.

      The greatest trick Google pulled is convincing people they are a consumer services/products company; never questioning how they make so much money giving away all of those services. In reality Google is an advertising and data mining company (your data) which is where 90%+ of their revenue comes from.

      If people want to be sheep and trade creature comforts by getting fleeced by google, that’s their choice I guess. But that’s not for me.
    1. turdsmoka's Avatar
      turdsmoka -
      I bought an iPhone when it was the only smart phone. Android users seem to forget that Apple created this market, even if there were mobile phones and smart devices before the first iPhone came out. I have never had a reason to switch, so I haven't. I'm sure the Samsung devices are great, but not for me.
    1. xboxbml's Avatar
      xboxbml -
      Remember the Compaq iPaq?... I know it wasn't a phone at the time, but I had that and a Nextel device..so glad the functions finally got combined
    1. Ambi_Valence's Avatar
      Ambi_Valence -
      Quote Originally Posted by fleurya View Post
      “Samsung S7 is better. It has a better battery. And those of you who are iPhone users (know) I’m right,”

      1. Schmidt should be smart enough to know better than to use anecdotal evidence in uncontrolled conditions as evidence of anything. So his claim that Samsung has better battery life.
      2. How are iPhone users supposed to know what he claims about Samsung is right if they don’t own a Samsung phone? Not everyone bothers using two phones, Schmidty!

      Reason I use an iPhone:
      1. It does everything I need. I don’t need all the customizing bells and whistles of android. I have too much going on in my life to play with phone settings all day.
      2. My battery lasts all day, so another phone lasting longer does not interest me.
      3. I like to pay with my products with money, not my personal data.

      The greatest trick Google pulled is convincing people they are a consumer services/products company; never questioning how they make so much money giving away all of those services. In reality Google is an advertising and data mining company (your data) which is where 90%+ of their revenue comes from.

      If people want to be sheep and trade creature comforts by getting fleeced by google, that’s their choice I guess. But that’s not for me.
      Fail.
      You know Apple does market research right. Not just amongst its own users. You know it buys information right? Where on earth do you think they buy it from?
      That’s right. Companies like Google. So they give the facade that they are clean whilst buying dirt.
    1. fleurya's Avatar
      fleurya -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ambi_Valence View Post
      Fail.
      You know Apple does market research right. Not just amongst its own users. You know it buys information right? Where on earth do you think they buy it from?
      That’s right. Companies like Google. So they give the facade that they are clean whilst buying dirt.
      All companies do market research, but with Apple everything is opt in/out. It's not an involuntary part of the agreement to use their products and services, and it's also not the sole purpose of their products and services.

      Apple is a company in the business of developing and selling porducts and services for consumers. they take information on a voluntary basis you improve those products and services.

      Google is a company in the business of data mining and advertising that pretends to be a products and services company. All of their consumar products and services are just a means to an end for their real business.

      To throw another one in: Amazon is just a sohpisticated internet storefront. All of it's products and services are just a means to the end of getting people to buy from their storefront instead of other stores. this was best exemplifited by the fact that Amazon itself issued instructions on how to build an Echo clone free using a raspberry pie.

      Now why would a company offer a free alternative to their own product they are trying to sell?? Why does Google give away all of it's services when it is a for-profit business; and quite successful too!

      If you can't see the striking difference between these business models from a consumer perspective, then you are blind. As I said, if you are fully aware of this and you're ok with it, that's your business. It's not for me. But don't for a minute try to kid yourself that it's anything else.Google's not just some cool comapny that gives everything away. Amazon is not just some cool company that offers free alternatives to their products. they're planning on having you pay for it one way or another.
    1. se23's Avatar
      se23 -
      And what about Apple? You don't even own the music you buy, you're just renting it! Apple isn't helping you either, they just want your money like everyone else!
    1. SpiderManAPV's Avatar
      SpiderManAPV -
      Quote Originally Posted by se23 View Post
      And what about Apple? You don't even own the music you buy, you're just renting it! Apple isn't helping you either, they just want your money like everyone else!
      What? If you buy in iTunes you get the music outright.
    1. therandy's Avatar
      therandy -
      Quote Originally Posted by se23 View Post
      And what about Apple? You don't even own the music you buy, you're just renting it! Apple isn't helping you either, they just want your money like everyone else!
      Yeah, but so is every other "streaming" service; if that is indeed what you are talking about. The "purchasing" of music is in decline, and has been since napster. The streaming of music and the ability of saving playlists and downloading of said playlists to your device for use while off network is all that is needed now. My music library maxed out at about ~7000 songs when Spotify became the music place...I haven't purchased a song since...and YES i made the switch to Apple Music for many reasons, but thats neither here or there....Personal preference if you will.
    1. vinaygoel2000's Avatar
      vinaygoel2000 -
      So if I'm an iPhone user, how would I know that Samsung is better? I never had a Samsung.
    1. Ambi_Valence's Avatar
      Ambi_Valence -
      Quote Originally Posted by fleurya View Post
      All companies do market research, but with Apple everything is opt in/out. It's not an involuntary part of the agreement to use their products and services, and it's also not the sole purpose of their products and services.

      Apple is a company in the business of developing and selling porducts and services for consumers. they take information on a voluntary basis you improve those products and services.

      Google is a company in the business of data mining and advertising that pretends to be a products and services company. All of their consumar products and services are just a means to an end for their real business.

      To throw another one in: Amazon is just a sohpisticated internet storefront. All of it's products and services are just a means to the end of getting people to buy from their storefront instead of other stores. this was best exemplifited by the fact that Amazon itself issued instructions on how to build an Echo clone free using a raspberry pie.

      Now why would a company offer a free alternative to their own product they are trying to sell?? Why does Google give away all of it's services when it is a for-profit business; and quite successful too!

      If you can't see the striking difference between these business models from a consumer perspective, then you are blind. As I said, if you are fully aware of this and you're ok with it, that's your business. It's not for me. But don't for a minute try to kid yourself that it's anything else.Google's not just some cool comapny that gives everything away. Amazon is not just some cool company that offers free alternatives to their products. they're planning on having you pay for it one way or another.
      Missed the point. The info they promise not to harvest from you they just buy from someone else and let them do the dirty work. The difference may as well not be there.
      It’s another example of Tim claiming they do things in the correct spirit. When they don’t.
    1. King_O_Hill's Avatar
      King_O_Hill -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ambi_Valence View Post
      Missed the point. The info they promise not to harvest from you they just buy from someone else and let them do the dirty work. The difference may as well not be there.
      It’s another example of Tim claiming they do things in the correct spirit. When they don’t.
      And you have proof of this?

      Just what data would Apple want from Google?
    1. Ambi_Valence's Avatar
      Ambi_Valence -
      Quote Originally Posted by King_O_Hill View Post
      And you have proof of this?

      Just what data would Apple want from Google?
      Apple want to know what those who don’t buy their products do. Seriously - you can’t see this? Apple have shell corporations that do things like research and development so as to try and hide both their money and intentions.
    1. King_O_Hill's Avatar
      King_O_Hill -
      Again, you have proof?

      Besides you are complaining that Apple is buying data on people that are NOT their customers. So how are they lying if their not data mining from their customer base? We can play this game all day bro.
    1. SepticTank's Avatar
      SepticTank -
      Quote Originally Posted by fleurya View Post
      “Samsung S7 is better. It has a better battery. And those of you who are iPhone users (know) I’m right,”

      1. Schmidt should be smart enough to know better than to use anecdotal evidence in uncontrolled conditions as evidence of anything. So his claim that Samsung has better battery life.
      2. How are iPhone users supposed to know what he claims about Samsung is right if they don’t own a Samsung phone? Not everyone bothers using two phones, Schmidty!

      Reason I use an iPhone:
      1. It does everything I need. I don’t need all the customizing bells and whistles of android. I have too much going on in my life to play with phone settings all day.
      2. My battery lasts all day, so another phone lasting longer does not interest me.
      3. I like to pay with my products with money, not my personal data.

      The greatest trick Google pulled is convincing people they are a consumer services/products company; never questioning how they make so much money giving away all of those services. In reality Google is an advertising and data mining company (your data) which is where 90%+ of their revenue comes from.

      If people want to be sheep and trade creature comforts by getting fleeced by google, that’s their choice I guess. But that’s not for me.
      Yes because Apple isn't (to use your words) fleecing people's data under their nose. Any person with a device connected to a network should not be so naive to think every big company isn't taking your data. Apple, Google, MS, FB and of course the government. Google is an ad company. Apple is hardware.

      Now to the actual words he used. Battery capacity and power has always been the Achilles Heel of any portable device. I've had 2 Samsung Notes and the battery power is as good as my 6S+ is. I'd challenge anyone with an iPhone to try a Note and anyone with a Note to try an iPhone. Thing is, LG, HTC and Samsung have caught up with Apple hardware. There's nothing wrong with jumping sides every now and then. Many great phones to own today.

      Tired of the Apple vs. everyone argument. Got old long ago.
    1. fleurya's Avatar
      fleurya -
      Quote Originally Posted by SepticTank View Post
      Yes because Apple isn't (to use your words) fleecing people's data under their nose. Any person with a device connected to a network should not be so naive to think every big company isn't taking your data. Apple, Google, MS, FB and of course the government. Google is an ad company. Apple is hardware.

      Now to the actual words he used. Battery capacity and power has always been the Achilles Heel of any portable device. I've had 2 Samsung Notes and the battery power is as good as my 6S+ is. I'd challenge anyone with an iPhone to try a Note and anyone with a Note to try an iPhone. Thing is, LG, HTC and Samsung have caught up with Apple hardware. There's nothing wrong with jumping sides every now and then. Many great phones to own today.

      Tired of the Apple vs. everyone argument. Got old long ago.
      Google straight up tells you they are fleecing you for daa. No doubt in it. Your comments about apple are paranoid conspiracy theories and an excuse to let google do their thing. Apple has shown many way how they work to actively keep your data your own, and the big FBI battle is proof in reality of that. But believe what you want to let yourself get used.

      I won't try a note because I already know I don't want a monster screen. I went from a 5S to a 6, and now I'm thinking of stepping down to the SE with my next new iPhone. And yes, there is a problem with jumping between iOs and Android because you can't take your apps with you in either direction.