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  • Nest Upgrades its Thermostat with a Better Display and New Features


    Google’s Nest Labs recently upgraded their signature product, the Nest Thermostat. Updated features include a bigger, sharper display and longer-range automatic wakeup. The third-gen Thermostat has a 480x480 screen rated at 229 pixels per inch. That being said, the device has managed to slim down as well, coming in at 1.21 inches thick.

    The device’s new wakeup feature, dubbed Farsight, will show the time or temperature when someone walks in the room, with the former having the option of a digital or analog-style clock-face available based on preference. For those of you who didn’t know, users had to previously be within three feet of a Thermostat for it to turn on. The longer range on the feature adds a quality of life improvement for those who use the device.

    Another recently added feature is Furnace Heads-Up, which will help to notify users about potential problems with their furnace and/or air filter by detecting activation and shutoff patterns. These alerts are pushed to users via the company’s iOS and Android apps, which have been updated to support the new hardware. This feature is set to eventually be available to both first- and second-gen Thermostat users too but only through an update which is said to be released later this year.

    Those of you interested in purchasing the third-gen device can do so via the Nest store for $249. It should be noted that in certain locations, power companies are offering consumers rebates, rewards and in some cases even giving away the product as a sign-up bonus.

    Are any of you considering picking up a Nest?

    Source: Nest
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Nest Upgrades its Thermostat with a Better Display and New Features started by Akshay Masand View original post
    Comments 9 Comments
    1. TechAlex's Avatar
      TechAlex -
      I hope the new Nest 3 has a "dead band zone" capability. Very few thermostat manufacturers make their thermostat dead band capable. They claim all kind of energy savings such is Nest, yet they dont include this very nice feature. If the Nest3 has it, I buy one today. Also, I hope the new Nest the display will stay ON all the time.
    1. Ambi_Valence's Avatar
      Ambi_Valence -
      Quote Originally Posted by TechAlex View Post
      I hope the new Nest 3 has a "dead band zone" capability. Very few thermostat manufacturers make their thermostat dead band capable. They claim all kind of energy savings such is Nest, yet they dont include this very nice feature. If the Nest3 has it, I buy one today. Also, I hope the new Nest the display will stay ON all the time.
      Care to elaborate on this ‘dead band'?
    1. TechAlex's Avatar
      TechAlex -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ambi_Valence View Post
      Care to elaborate on this ‘dead band'?
      Here is how it works.

      We will use 3 degrees as an example. So let's say you set the thermostat to 75 degrees, the temperature will rise to 78, at this moment only the thermostat will turn on the central air system. Now the temperature is 75 degrees, so it will start rising up to 76, 77, and 78, at 78 degrees the thermostat will turn the system on again. As you can see, there are 3 degrees that the thermostat will not do anything, and this is the "dead band zone."

      Same concept applies for heat or cool.

      What's so good about this?

      Number one: the system will not be constant on and off. This on/off will kill your system quickly. The light bulb fails when is turn on, right?
      Number two: Save money for your pocket and help the environment. The system will be less time ON, less energy used.

      Now, we the human do not detect a change in temperature let's say from one degree to the next. I installed a Honeywell thermostat once, as soon as the temperature changed about 0.5 degree, the stupid thing turned on the central air system. I am sure there are cases where somebody wants to keep the temperature to +- 0.5 degrees change, once again , we the human dont need that precision in temperature.
    1. sobeniceguy2's Avatar
      sobeniceguy2 -
      The second gen Nest will use two degree's. I think three will be a tad uncomfortable unless you are using auto away mode to set a higher temp when your home is empty. I set my temp at 75 when someone is home and 78 when I am away. What I would like to know if it has geo fencing to detect when you come home and start cooling or heating built in versus using a third party app. Currently only Skylark app adds this desired feature for IOS devices.
    1. TechAlex's Avatar
      TechAlex -
      Quote Originally Posted by sobeniceguy2 View Post
      The second gen Nest will use two degree's. I think three will be a tad uncomfortable unless you are using auto away mode to set a higher temp when your home is empty. I set my temp at 75 when someone is home and 78 when I am away. What I would like to know if it has geo fencing to detect when you come home and start cooling or heating built in versus using a third party app. Currently only Skylark app adds this desired feature for IOS devices.
      If the second gen Nest uses the dead band zone or some kind, I am sure the new Nest 3 has it as well. I just sent an email to Nest asking about that.

      The Geo fencing is a cool feature. We have an alarm system that has it, very nice. Thank you for mentioning the Skylark app. If I get the Nest 3, for sure I will use this app.
    1. Ambi_Valence's Avatar
      Ambi_Valence -
      Quote Originally Posted by TechAlex View Post
      Here is how it works.

      We will use 3 degrees as an example. So let's say you set the thermostat to 75 degrees, the temperature will rise to 78, at this moment only the thermostat will turn on the central air system. Now the temperature is 75 degrees, so it will start rising up to 76, 77, and 78, at 78 degrees the thermostat will turn the system on again. As you can see, there are 3 degrees that the thermostat will not do anything, and this is the "dead band zone."

      Same concept applies for heat or cool.

      What's so good about this?

      Number one: the system will not be constant on and off. This on/off will kill your system quickly. The light bulb fails when is turn on, right?
      Number two: Save money for your pocket and help the environment. The system will be less time ON, less energy used.

      Now, we the human do not detect a change in temperature let's say from one degree to the next. I installed a Honeywell thermostat once, as soon as the temperature changed about 0.5 degree, the stupid thing turned on the central air system. I am sure there are cases where somebody wants to keep the temperature to +- 0.5 degrees change, once again , we the human dont need that precision in temperature.
      Ah, it’s like the hysteresis loop. Funny you should talk about Honeywell. I had one of their stats in the hallway outside my bedroom and old a cold night the heating used to click on and off and it kept me awake. I do remember cursing about the half degree increments.
    1. TechAlex's Avatar
      TechAlex -
      Nest confirms, then new Nest3 Not "dead band zone" capable.

      Hi Alex,
      Thank you for contacting Nest Support. I am afraid both features you are inquiring about today are not present in the Gen 3 thermostat.

      Now this does not mean these features could not be implemented in the future. We have a feature request forum where members of the community can share and request ideas for future features and functionality for all Nest products. Feel free to check out this forum and submit your own feature request at the link below:

      https://community.nest.com/community...ct-suggestions
    1. sobeniceguy2's Avatar
      sobeniceguy2 -
      Quote Originally Posted by TechAlex View Post
      Nest confirms, then new Nest3 Not "dead band zone" capable.

      Hi Alex,
      Thank you for contacting Nest Support. I am afraid both features you are inquiring about today are not present in the Gen 3 thermostat.

      Now this does not mean these features could not be implemented in the future. We have a feature request forum where members of the community can share and request ideas for future features and functionality for all Nest products. Feel free to check out this forum and submit your own feature request at the link below:

      https://community.nest.com/community...ct-suggestions
      Ah well that sucks. I am looking into the Ecobee3 as a possible replacement if and when I decide to update. You are welcome TechAlex for the Skylark app suggestion.
    1. Raptor2213's Avatar
      Raptor2213 -
      I was going to get a Nest, but then found out that it doesn't have a setting for those of us who have free electricity after a certain time of day. You'd think that a smart thermostat would have some kind of setting for this...