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Thread: Cydia Vs Installer
07-20-2008, 05:47 PM #41
with cydia you CANNOT add sources....end of discussion
07-20-2008, 05:51 PM #42
2. Cydia is new to most end users who are not developers.
3. Until recently, developers never even considered using Cydia for the apps most end users want.
4. I don't know how well Cydia can control sources. I do know about Installer.
5. Cydia is looking more like installer. Hmmm?
Okay, that's my top 5 on why Installer should even be necessary. You don't have to buy into it if you don't like it. I understand that the apps people are crying about won't work on 2.0 regardless of the choice.
Is Cydia more stable as some say? I don't know. I know Installer has historically been very stable for me. Will it still be stable when a million noobs are pushing buttons wanting something for nothing? Remember pwn 2.0 was supposed to be Granny Simple. Knowledge is power and most Cydia users to date knew what they were doing.
I don't think it is fair to compare the future of Cydia versus the present Installer. Sure Cydia has plans for the future. So does Installer.
Will Cydia still be attractive to developers if it's cluttered with ants and lights and other useless time waster we love so much.?
Wouldn't it be better to promote Cydia and encourage usage rather than trash installer?
Sorry if this post has too much thought into it.
07-20-2008, 06:01 PM #43
Another vote for Installer. It never worked for me before and after upgrading to 2.0 now I've realized that I should have waited for Installer.
The entire process of installing / unlocking 2.0 went smoothly until I started running Cydia. It locked up the phone twice and hung several times within 20 minutes of usage.
I think Saurik hurried it to capture the lost market that it can't win if Null River releases a stable version of Installer before most common apps are ported.
Edit: Meant Installer, not Cydia.
Last edited by rexian; 07-20-2008 at 07:14 PM.
07-20-2008, 06:10 PM #44
Last edited by imode; 07-20-2008 at 06:16 PM.
07-20-2008, 06:11 PM #45
07-20-2008, 06:13 PM #46
Cydia's servers have been overwhelmed today, and apptapp.saurik.com (saurik's repo) has been responding slowly or timing out. He should be back soon to fix the issue. No worries...
07-20-2008, 06:14 PM #47
What I don't get is why some of these apps and or methods work perfectly for some and don't for others. "Someone" must be doing something incorrectly whether its interpreting directions correctly, skipping a step somewhere, or whatever.
My observation is that most of the directions are fairly clearcut but often some things that are pretty obvious to a more knowledgeable soul are not always spelled out. This is where noobs can get in trouble I think.
Its like when I gave my father in law an old pc. he asked me to write up directions on how to use it. he was still "lost". I hadnt intended to have to explain things like "click" ,"point to", "highlight", "double click" was a tough one. It was extremely difficult for me to think out every obvious step to instruct him. Now most of us dont need that level of direction but its just an example.
imode69 said it best- read and research first, learn the terminology at the least, that will go along way to making things go right. Learn which tools will work with your setup. Read, read read!
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07-20-2008, 06:31 PM #48
nes works on 2.0!
07-20-2008, 07:07 PM #49
I'm just waiting for AM, poof, summerboard, books, gameboy4iphone, and instinctiv. What I want to know is, is how different the 2.0 structure is compared to 1.1.4 and back.
07-20-2008, 07:08 PM #50
nice :] I'm getting kinda used to cydia as well... Just
07-20-2008, 07:09 PM #51
Hey has anyone been able to tether the iphones internet connection yet using any of the proxy server applications in cydia?
07-20-2008, 07:15 PM #52
I am getting a wierd error POSIK: Operation Timed out, anyone know what this is and how to fix thanks------------------------------
07-20-2008, 07:25 PM #53
My guess is that it'll be another 2-3 weeks before the apps start to reappear for 2.0. Also, it's up to the author as to when they get around to doing it.
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07-20-2008, 07:28 PM #54
what are some good cydia sources?R.I.P - 8GB iPhone - Pwnd - 1.1.4 - T-MobileUSA
R.I.P 3G- iPhone - All sorts of H4x0r'd
32gb 3Gs - 3.1.2 Unlocked - AT&T
MacBook (White Uni) - 2.24 - 4GB - 250GB - 10.6.4
MacBook Pro - 2.0GHz-4GB-320GB - 10.6.1
MacBook(Aluminum Edish)-2.4GHz-250GB - 10.5.5
MacBook Air - 1.6 - 80GB -10.5.2 - Lovin' It
MacBook Pro - 1.83 - 80GB - 10.4.11
12' PowerBook G4 - 1.5 - 120GB - 10.4.11
Been Cockin' Rockin' and iPhone Unlockin' since v1.0.2.
07-20-2008, 07:35 PM #55
Last edited by imode; 07-20-2008 at 07:38 PM.
07-20-2008, 07:37 PM #56
are you people serious?
1. cydia refreshes sources in the background, not with an annoying status bar that takes forever and blocks you from using the app until it is finished.
2. cydia is layed out better, MUCH prettier than ugly installer, and is more organized
3. cydia allows you to search for applications based on name and/or description
4. cydia is already 2.0 capable
5. cydia is developed by saurik himself, a member of the dev team who allowed you to unlock 2.0 in the first place
It doesn't matter if you don't agree with me; the dev team has decided cydia will take over and i will continue to enjoy it's advanced interface while all you installer-lovers whine and cry over 'change'.
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07-20-2008, 07:42 PM #58
07-20-2008, 07:49 PM #59
You don't need to add sources - you just need to wait for the devs to get their apps 2.0 compliant and posted up to Cydia.
07-20-2008, 07:54 PM #60
Installer is easy and more user friendly, Cydia is ugly and complicated. I dont like it but its needed for some installs.
I went back to 1.4 last night as 2.0 doesnt have any gprs/edge options and its not as friendly as 1.4. Maybe in a few weeks/months when all the apps are ported over then it might be better, till then I'm sticking with 1.4 and all the goodies