[coldasice]

OK im going to make a main post about this but if any one here has bricked there iphone and wants to get a return from apple this is how you do it.

Remember this should only be done by someone that knows what they are doing or has broken an item in this way before to get a return.

Recently a friend of mine got an iphone for his girlfriend and was going to unlock it. Every thing was going well, the phone was open and the act was done using PACAY (on a ver 1.1.1) then there was two copys of any sim on the PC any sim 1.1 and any sim 1.0 well i told him to mark them and he didnt needless to say he uploaded the wrong any sim and ran any sim 1.0 on a Ver 1.1.1 for all of you that are in the know this doesnt brick the phone but worse it puts it into a mode where it cant be unlocked or downgraded. On top of that it went into the dreaded slow mode where the phone works but everything is really slow then it crashes.

We tryed everything to try to fix the phone and finally he said we are F*&ked. So i has an idea. What if we claimed the phone had burned out? Ive done this many many many times before and always get away with getting a new item out of the company.

So with that being said this is what you do.

Get your self a cheap or old pair of head phones cut the wires and strip em. Twist the white and red wires together and the 2 grounds together (the bare wires).

Then get yourself an old Ipod charger or go buy a cheap knock off online. Cut off the Usb end, then strip the wires. Then take the Red and green wires twist them together. Then take the black and white wires twist them together.

Now you must take the the Ground wires from the head phone jack and hook it to the black and white wire from the ipod charger side, then connect the red and white wires you twisted together before to the red and green wires.


So you should now have

Black/White and ground connected on one side this will be hooked up to Negative.

Red/White and Red/Green connected this will be Positive.

AGAIN THIS NEXT STEP SHOULD ONLY BE PERFORMED BY A TRAINED MORON!

We first started out by hooked the phone up to his car. At first it didnt do much then we decided to rev the motor a little thats when we started to see a little smoke.

Then the phone went gray we keep it hooked up for around 20 minutes.

But we werent happy just yet so we went inside and found an old extendsion cord we cut off the part where you would plug stuff into it and used the other side of the cord we twisted the wires together and made sure we taped it up then we pluged it in. Poof! one smoking Iphone.

After resetting the circuit breaker. We called the following number 1800 792 7753 told them we were charging the iphone and it began to smoke. They said how sorry they were and that they would email an RMA. They did and then we boxed up the phone, sent it back. Waited 5 days and the new iphone was at the door step! No joke. And this isnt the first time i've gotten away with this.

If they cant read out the phone they cant tell you tryed to unlock it. Enjoy!

Oh and this normaly works just with the car batt. but we hooked it up to the wall plug just for fun!

[pingwhen]

as much as i will remeber this forever... isnt this illegal??? :-/

[fat x nub]

OMG...you are my hero...im saving this as a file and will always remember it if i ever brick my phone

[coldasice]

Isn't it illegal for Apple to make terms and conditions that say you can't mod something you spent over $400 on? I don't see this as illegal, I see it as beating the system.

Enjoy!

ColdasIce

When you need a solution and have no where else to turn, remember I am always here. Feel free to ask.

[Digital Oxygen]

While I don't agree with Apple locking the iphone, I'm going to have to play devil's advocate here.

Let's say you buy a 50K dollar car, and you blow up the motor by say, retuning the engine computer to give you a few extra HP. Should the manufacturer be responsible for replacing the motor under warranty?

There are also terms and conditions with the warranty on a new car as well, that say if you do something stupid to break it, the manufacturer is not responsible for fixing it under warranty.

There is a saying in the engine modding community: "You play, you pay". Alas, there're always the people who still expect the manufacturer to fix their booboos under warranty.

[Sidetalker]

lol sweet

[coldasice]

While I don't agree with Apple locking the iphone, I'm going to have to play devil's advocate here.

Q. Let's say you buy a 50K dollar car, and you blow up the motor by say, retuning the engine computer to give you a few extra HP. Should the manufacturer be responsible for replacing the motor under warranty?

A. The answer is YES by law they must replace every thing but the ECU


Q. There are also terms and conditions with the warranty on a new car as well, that say if you do something stupid to break it, the manufacturer is not responsible for fixing it under warranty.

A. yes they are responsible for fixing the motor it self but can ask you to pay for a replacement ECU.

Q. There is a saying in the engine modding community: "You play, you pay". Alas, there're always the people who still expect the manufacturer to fix their booboos under warranty.

A. Under any warranty they must fix everything but the ECU it self which they can charge you for. So we are modding the modem part of the iphone not the phone it self so they could ask for a charge to fix it but cant deny fixing it at all.


again no company under U.S. law can say you modded part A so we wont fix part B and C.

[Digital Oxygen]

I guess you've never heard of the Mos Magnusson Act... have you.

Ask your friend Google about it.

If the damage is a direct result of something the customer did, then no, the manufacturer doesn't have to honor the warranty.

Say, for example you change the OEM radio with an aftermarket radio and the rear differential blows up, then obviously the rear differential malfunction is not related to the radio install and the manufacturer must honor the warranty. But if say, the wiring harness burns out and the dealership can prove it was a direct result of the aftermarket radio install, then the manufacturer doesn't have to honor the replacement of the wiring harness under warranty. See where I'm going with this? In my ECM example, the motor blowing up would be a direct result of changing the OEM tune, making the motor work harder - therefore going kaboom.

I kept this simple so you'd understand it. I don't know what reality you live in, however I hate to break it to you... you Sir are grossly mistaken when it comes to my car warranty example... which incidentally, applies to just about everything else. Lord knows I've been rounds with FORD when it comes to my Powerstroke. But what do I know about warranties... Something tells me your attitude is one of "Hey, it's not my fault I was stupid and fugged xyz item up! It should be the manufacturer who has to pay for my screw-up!" Right?

But as I've stated earlier... Some people don't seem to be man enough to accept responsibility and pay when they play with their toys.

[Alperovich]

so when i beat the **** out my truck (years ago, i don't even own it anymore) and killed the trans, dodge should have not replaced it b/c it was my fault right? or when my buddy recently cracked his iphone screen they shouldn't have replaced it b/c it wasn't a defect right?

also the only thing that can void the warranty on your motor is INTERNAL modifaction, if u blew it, and its been "tuned" it wont void your warrenty as the reason it blew wasn't really b/c you "tuned" but rather b/c u abused the motor with your driving habbits.

yes, this might not be the most legal thing in the world, but do u have to be the most self richus (sp??) person in the world huh. u kno this is gonna be the first thing on your mind when your phone breaks.

ppl have been doing this sort of thing since the dawn of time. lets say u bought a radio or target, and it broke a week later or 6months later, so what do u do, you go down to target, and buy a identical radio, come back to target later that day and say its not working and you want your money back. company's write things like this off (they expect and plan for this type of event happening.)

[Digital Oxygen]

Originally Posted by Alperovich

So when i beat the **** out my truck (years ago, i don't even own it anymore) and killed the trans, dodge should have not replaced it b/c it was my fault right?

Dodge Auto Trannies of a few years ago are junky anyways. They're nowhere near as strong as today's dodge trannies.

Originally Posted by Alperovich

or when my buddy recently cracked his iphone screen they shouldn't have replaced it b/c it wasn't a defect right?

And why should they replace the phone if your buddy abused it? Or did this crack just happen on it's own?

Originally Posted by Alperovich

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also the only thing that can void the warranty on your motor is INTERNAL modifaction, if u blew it, and its been "tuned" it wont void your warrenty as the reason it blew wasn't really b/c you "tuned" but rather b/c u abused the motor with your driving habbits.

HAHAHA! Good one. The motor didn't blow up because you ran it too lean. It blew up because you abused it... oh wait... Running the motor leaner than it was set from the factory (gotta save that gas), does not equal abuse? WTF does it equal? TLC? I take it you've never seen a lean motor go "pop" because the guy tuning it has no clue how to tune it.

Kid, you're arguing with the wrong person when it comes to Automotive Warranties. Why are the big three cracking down on the owners of their light duty diesel vehicles? It's never happened to me, but there are tons of Ford, Chevy and even Dodge owners who have been denied warranty work on their engines because they have a programmer installed in their trucks. Let me guess, your buddy has a diesel pick-up truck with 900HP and he takes it in for warranty work all the time. After all, it's illegal to deny warranty work, right?

Originally Posted by Alperovich

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yes, this might not be the most legal thing in the world, but do u have to be the most self richus (sp??) person in the world huh. u kno this is gonna be the first thing on your mind when your phone breaks.

It's spelled "Righteous" (since you asked). Which part of my very first post in this thread eludes you? The first thing on my mind when my phone breaks will be "Well crap. Time to go buy a new one". If I break it, unlike (apparently) you, I'll take responsibility for my actions. Though, I doubt I'll break it between now and the end of the month when the Nokia E90 Communicator I've got on order with Expansys, arrives. After that, my iPhone will be a back-up phone. Don't really like the damned thing anyways. Or, maybe I'll just use it for target practive. If I do, I'll make sure to post a few pictures for you.

Originally Posted by Alperovich

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ppl have been doing this sort of thing since the dawn of time. lets say u bought a radio or target, and it broke a week later or 6months later, so what do u do, you go down to target, and buy a identical radio, come back to target later that day and say its not working and you want your money back. company's write things like this off (they expect and plan for this type of event happening.)

So you're telling me that if you say, drop this radio and you put a big crack into it, the retailer will accept it on your word a week or 6 months later, that it came that way? Are you hitting the hookah?

[Imahottguy]

As I said in response to your post of this exact same process in another thread:

It is wrong. You know it. This is the 'It's my g-d given right' attitude that makes us [americans] look bad. I broke my ROKR E6 the other week... It cost me $350 USD to get one when it was still new on the market. But does that mean that Motorola should send me a replacement b/c I was the one who messed w/ the touchscreen digitizer flex? No, and I never expected them to. I counted my losses and moved on, to the iPhone coincidentally. So yeah, you really should be ashamed of what you did/have done. It takes us h@ckers down a knotch...

Further, by posting what you have admittedly done, you are exposing yourself to the whole world- even apple. What if they took an interest in this, and was able to link some 'fried' iPhones w/ your IP address?

[coldasice]

OK im not looking to start some flaming war here im not saying what i do is right or wrong its what falls under your morals.

But i know the law very well ahumm... (again not looking to start a fight)

But the law does in such state that they dont have to replace the phone (If you are stupid enough to say YOU broke it) but say its less then 14 days old then they MUST replace it (Due to ANY and ALL defect). But again the law also states if am item is made and COULD have started a fire or MIGHT have started a fire the product it self could be pulled off the market altogether, Which is not some thing apple wants or would let happen. They would rather just replace it then have a lawsuit on there hands. You take the replacement you lose your right to sue.

(TRUST ME THIS IS FACT NOT JUST SOME BS)

Again also to add you would never tell them that YOU broke the phone but that the phone burned out it self.

[Reako]

The word you used was defect. Not a direct effect of a users mistake. A mistake made by the manufacturer. Simple. And all you crybabies wonder why you pay so much for everything now a days? It's because you cheat the system by returning self destructive items for warranty when you are not entitled. THat is why merchants have to charge an arm and a leg for their items now. Thanks morons.

Reako

[Oranges]

BTW I've read from multiple sources that its cost apple about $200 to make each unit. Thats about a $200 makeup. Most of that is due to overhead but still.

I'm not really whining about the cost (maybe I am just a little) but in places like japan and korea the average phone costs like $400 - $850 (yes in dollars) and EVERYONE has one.

[DoerrFan]

I don't think Apple should have to pay for you messing around with the phone.

I personally zapped mine with a few thousand volts of electricity (my friend does a electricity show at the Museum of Science, and he let me stick my bricked iPhone in) There was no outside damage but hell that thing was messed up. I didn't get a new one, i just wanted to see what would happen.