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    Well thats my opinion.
    I have been a member on ModMyi for a good few years now, and in the last 6 months or so I have seen traffic slowing down quickly, I believe it's due to all the paid themes we are getting lately.

    Don't get me wrong theme creators, I believe more than anything that you deserve something for all your hard work, but lt seems to me that people are starting to get greedy, I have witnessed paid mods here now! and now that DreamBoard is here people are charging to port already paid themes to DreamBoard, and forced donations are the same thing, saying you can't get this till you donate is not much better!

    I for one don't like what the site is becoming, what happened to the sharing community it use to be?

    I am not saying this because I can't pay, I have a very good job/income, I just want to express my opinion on a site that I use to consider the best in it's class. I don't know the figures, but I can tell traffic is slowing to this site and I believe this is the main reason.

    My opinion is, if it's your own original idea and you are an accomplished theme creator here (you've done your apprenticeship) with a FULL theme that you have created then yes, charge a dollar, other than that, like for DreamBoard ports or mods of someone else's theme, you shouldn't be asking for payment for this.

    This is just what I am feeling, lets try and keep this site the best and remember it's a sharing community.

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    I agree that it is monopolizing now but ll, it's not up to modmyi but the creators to create samples if their work free...this also reduces piracy...which in my opinion is gonna happen more with themes now if they all continue to be paid on every release
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Nicoll View Post
    Well thats my opinion.
    I have been a member on ModMyi for a good few years now, and in the last 6 months or so I have seen traffic slowing down quickly, I believe it's due to all the paid themes we are getting lately.

    Don't get me wrong theme creators, I believe more than anything that you deserve something for all your hard work, but lt seems to me that people are starting to get greedy, I have witnessed paid mods here now! and now that DreamBoard is here people are charging to port already paid themes to DreamBoard, and forced donations are the same thing, saying you can't get this till you donate is not much better!

    I for one don't like what the site is becoming, what happened to the sharing community it use to be?

    I am not saying this because I can't pay, I have a very good job/income, I just want to express my opinion on a site that I use to consider the best in it's class. I don't know the figures, but I can tell traffic is slowing to this site and I believe this is the main reason.

    My opinion is, if it's your own original idea and you are an accomplished theme creator here (you've done your apprenticeship) with a FULL theme that you have created then yes, charge a dollar, other than that, like for DreamBoard ports or mods of someone else's theme, you shouldn't be asking for payment for this.

    This is just what I am feeling, lets try and keep this site the best and remember it's a sharing community.

    Thanks.

    I agree 100% Ian!!!I actually stated that yesterday!lol I think everyone has become greedy!and that is not in my opinion what this all was about before..ports and mods should never be paid!!why?because you did not create what your porting or modding so it's not your to charge for!but each to their own..but I do agree and have put this out there yesterday I appreciate this thread bro!

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    As far as the dreamboard stuff, all the payments that are being asked for are for people that never received the original theme. For instance iNav HD. Gan is only making people pay to receive it if you have never bought the theme, otherwise you will get the dreamboard mod free of charge.

    If this was not done, the original theme creator would be getting ripped off because no one will buy his theme which he/she put a lot of work into.
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    I agree but also disagree because I could never make a theme and I am useless at Photoshop and havnt got the talent you guys have,but I also know I've spent loads on buying themes if I like a theme I'll buy it straight away and sometimes everything isn't in the package so I won't use it,I am very willing to pay for a theme that is totally complete as there has been a lot of hard work done but sometimes it would be nice to have a theme that is cheaper or free.
    don't know if this sounds right to some people hope you won't be offended

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    If you receive a theme that doesnt contain everything, send a message to the theme creator and I am sure it we be fixed.

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    Dreamboard has definately started a bad thing. We were forced to purchase Dreamboard and now if you don't pay for each Port your beat and have Endroid and maybe 2 others to use. I just feel if we paid for the app we should receive ports for free as a thank you back to us as a community that all paid $2.99 for an app that will hardly be of use because people will get sick of paying for everything that drops. Not trying to sound like a cheap skate but not Everyone is as well off as others. Unfortunately it's just gonna produce more piracy as stated above, and the helpful and sharing community of ModMyi will slowly migrate. Just my thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas Knight View Post
    As far as the dreamboard stuff, all the payments that are being asked for are for people that never received the original theme. For instance iNav HD. Gan is only making people pay to receive it if you have never bought the theme, otherwise you will get the dreamboard mod free of charge.

    If this was not done, the original theme creator would be getting ripped off because no one will buy his theme which he/she put a lot of work into.
    I don't wish to cause any arguments here, I am just expressing my opinion, the case you state above if fair and good but I'm sorry, this is not the case for all DreamBoard ports, but I'm not going to point any fingers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas Knight View Post
    As far as the dreamboard stuff, all the payments that are being asked for are for people that never received the original theme. For instance iNav HD. Gan is only making people pay to receive it if you have never bought the theme, otherwise you will get the dreamboard mod free of charge.

    If this was not done, the original theme creator would be getting ripped off because no one will buy his theme which he/she put a lot of work into.
    gan man definitely did it the way it should be done!I give him props for all he's done but now others are charging half price of the theme for the dreamboard port which In my opinion is a rip off to both the users and theme creator but this is ONLY MY opinion..


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    I can see it from both side of the fence. I agree with both. The paid theme market has been flooded. Seems like theme designers should have some sort of apprentice period where the themes should be free before they go to paid. I released many free themes before migrating to paid. With that said I will give my paid themes to anyone that can NOT donate.

    But I do feel the same way and have started to throttle back of the paid packages. zui was stage one of throttle back. My next theme in the works will be COMPLETELY free. We all see it out own way and each of us are entitled to our own opinion.

    I would like to see more FREE themes here on the threads but that will have to be up to the creators.

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    To be honest, piracy is going to happen. I dont care if the theme costs $1000, people are going to pirate it. Saying that dreamboard will force more piracy isnt entirely true. Dreamboard itself has been pirated, every paid theme on this site has been pirated. WE as themers have been battling this problem for a very long time and it will never stop. If there is something people want for free, they will get it. The only thing we can do is rely on the people that are honest and donate to receive the themes that we worked, hours days even on.

    And about your dreamboard idea, yes some are charging like a dollar for the port (not all) but in all fairness, its pretty hard to port the themes. You have to manually enter every single icon, widget, background into the coding. They put in work as well. They have all received permission and I believe that saying they deserve nothing isnt fair to them.

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    Depends entirely on the quality of the Theme's and mods.

    DreamBoard is a new canvas, a new layout. It's not replacing artwork and dropping in new icon overlays. It takes quite a bit of effort, and since about 90% of us drop more than a dollar on a cup of coffee every day, i really don't see what the point is. It's like complaining that Cydia apps cost money.

    I think it's much much worse, that members of our own community who get access to early stuff run over to in****lyi and post it there for free. That is something that should be dealt with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas Knight View Post
    To be honest, piracy is going to happen. I dont care if the theme costs $1000, people are going to pirate it. Saying that dreamboard will force more piracy isnt entirely true. Dreamboard itself has been pirated, every paid theme on this site has been pirated. WE as themers have been battling this problem for a very long time and it will never stop. If there is something people want for free, they will get it. The only thing we can do is rely on the people that are honest and donate to receive the themes that we worked, hours days even on.

    And about your dreamboard idea, yes some are charging like a dollar for the port (not all) but in all fairness, its pretty hard to port the themes. You have to manually enter every single icon, widget, background into the coding. They put in work as well. They have all received permission and I believe that saying they deserve nothing isnt fair to them.

    I think that should be up to the theme creator to cut them some type of share or even reward them with something..but you are right and I again only gave my opinion on the matter..

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    It's this way you get what you pay or don't pay for you full theme like Darkstar which took alot of work to make yes you should pay some others maybe not if you don't want to pay get a free one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas Knight View Post
    To be honest, piracy is going to happen. I dont care if the theme costs $1000, people are going to pirate it. Saying that dreamboard will force more piracy isnt entirely true. Dreamboard itself has been pirated, every paid theme on this site has been pirated. WE as themers have been battling this problem for a very long time and it will never stop. If there is something people want for free, they will get it. The only thing we can do is rely on the people that are honest and donate to receive the themes that we worked, hours days even on.

    And about your dreamboard idea, yes some are charging like a dollar for the port (not all) but in all fairness, its pretty hard to port the themes. You have to manually enter every single icon, widget, background into the coding. They put in work as well. They have all received permission and I believe that saying they deserve nothing isnt fair to them.
    you could start by IP banning VaioOSX since he links to the same twitter on both his insanely account and his modmyi account, and is the thread creator for the "whatever theme you want" threads.

    There is the entirely off chance that i'm wrong about him, and he's somehow secured the "OK" from every dreamboard themer. Just looks really really bad.
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    I know ghost but all the profits are being split with the theme creator

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    I'm not complaining about the themes...it's my fault because I brought most of them when I was new to jailbreakin and never knew anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zausser View Post
    I can see it from both side of the fence. I agree with both. The paid theme market has been flooded. Seems like theme designers should have some sort of apprentice period where the themes should be free before they go to paid. I released many free themes before migrating to paid. With that said I will give my paid themes to anyone that can NOT donate.

    But I do feel the same way and have started to throttle back of the paid packages. zui was stage one of throttle back. My next theme in the works will be COMPLETELY free. We all see it out own way and each of us are entitled to our own opinion.

    I would like to see more FREE themes here on the threads but that will have to be up to the creators.
    Yeah buddy, thanks and nicely said, I am not having a dig at theme creators here, all of you are great and talented people, but mods and ports... enough said.. The apprentice thing is what I was trying to say in post one, once your an established gold theme creator...

    To all,
    Already this thread is heading the wrong way, I didn't start this for finger pointing, I just see the traffic in these boards slowing down a lot in the past 6 months and believe this has something to do with it, I also believe that if people appreciate the ports/mods they will donate of their own accord.
    I know how much work is involved, it took me months to do the UniAW/LowerAW and they are just weather widgets, but this use to be a sharing community with not one paid thing, only donations, what happened?
    I just would like to see the site running flat out like it use to be.
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    Maybe more themes should have a lite version, and donte for full? Just and idea...

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    Agreed. Main reason I've been working on a free theme as well.

    One thing I see as an issue when it comes to free themes is that there are many ungrateful people and they can careless how many hours or days the creator has put into the theme and they aren't capable of a small donation.

    Just few days ago I read on twitter someone(don't remember name) saying how he released his theme for free and got little to no donations at all. I think that's very unfair, about 80% of those who visit this site or any other site for themes and very much capable of spending $1-$3 on a theme. Remember, you bought at iDevice for at least $200 and most likely pay another $100 a month...

    And those who are minors and can't pay. Have you seen how big the list of themes is on Cydia that are free? Take a look, you'd be surprised. Not to mention that just about every themer give out their creations for free if you ask them.

    As for piracy, well, that just won't stop.
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