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A Proposal for Standards. Theme creators and junkies PLEASE READ and COMMENT!!

So in dinking around with my iPhone and themeing things I've come to the conclusion that... well... Applying a theme really, really sucks. Every theme author has a different take on what to name the files... where to put the files (example, check out Bach theme, check out paperCONS theme).

I have a proposal that I'd like some comments on.

Anyways. The idea is to come up with a standard directory structure/bundle type for themes that is:

1) Easy to figure out what goes where
2) Supports multiple iPhone Operating System revisions (futureproof)
3) Supports multiple variants of the same theme.

Unfortunately, I am not a C coder, or I'd modify the iPhoneInterface program to support this... However I am a mean scripter, so I'm making a proof of concept PERL script that will apply a theme.

Here's my current thinking for an "iPhone Bundle."

Take the paperCONSv2 theme. An excellent theme to use as an example (and an excellent overall theme, IMO).

Currently, if you unzip the theme you get this:

paperCONSv2
paperCONSv2/.DS_Store
paperCONSv2/NO BACKGROUND
paperCONSv2/NO BACKGROUND/album.png
paperCONSv2/NO BACKGROUND/browser.png
paperCONSv2/NO BACKGROUND/calender.png
paperCONSv2/NO BACKGROUND/calulator.png
paperCONSv2/NO BACKGROUND/camera.png
paperCONSv2/NO BACKGROUND/clock.png
paperCONSv2/NO BACKGROUND/ipod.png
paperCONSv2/NO BACKGROUND/mail.png
paperCONSv2/NO BACKGROUND/maps.png
paperCONSv2/NO BACKGROUND/notes.png
paperCONSv2/NO BACKGROUND/phone.png
paperCONSv2/NO BACKGROUND/settings.png
paperCONSv2/NO BACKGROUND/sms.png
paperCONSv2/NO BACKGROUND/stocks.png
paperCONSv2/NO BACKGROUND/Thumbs.db
paperCONSv2/NO BACKGROUND/weather.png
paperCONSv2/NO BACKGROUND/youtube.png
paperCONSv2/preview.jpg
paperCONSv2/preview2.jpg
paperCONSv2/TINTED BACKGROUND
paperCONSv2/TINTED BACKGROUND/album.png
paperCONSv2/TINTED BACKGROUND/browser.png
paperCONSv2/TINTED BACKGROUND/calender.png
paperCONSv2/TINTED BACKGROUND/calulator.png
paperCONSv2/TINTED BACKGROUND/camera.png
paperCONSv2/TINTED BACKGROUND/clock.png
paperCONSv2/TINTED BACKGROUND/ipod.png
paperCONSv2/TINTED BACKGROUND/mail.png
paperCONSv2/TINTED BACKGROUND/maps.png
paperCONSv2/TINTED BACKGROUND/notes.png
paperCONSv2/TINTED BACKGROUND/phone.png
paperCONSv2/TINTED BACKGROUND/settings.png
paperCONSv2/TINTED BACKGROUND/sms.png
paperCONSv2/TINTED BACKGROUND/stocks.png
paperCONSv2/TINTED BACKGROUND/Thumbs.db
paperCONSv2/TINTED BACKGROUND/weather.png
paperCONSv2/TINTED BACKGROUND/youtube.png
paperCONSv2/TRANSPARENT BACKGROUND
paperCONSv2/TRANSPARENT BACKGROUND/album copy.png
paperCONSv2/TRANSPARENT BACKGROUND/browser copy.png
paperCONSv2/TRANSPARENT BACKGROUND/calender copy.png
paperCONSv2/TRANSPARENT BACKGROUND/calulator copy.png
paperCONSv2/TRANSPARENT BACKGROUND/camera copy.png
paperCONSv2/TRANSPARENT BACKGROUND/clock copy.png
paperCONSv2/TRANSPARENT BACKGROUND/ipod copy.png
paperCONSv2/TRANSPARENT BACKGROUND/mail copy.png
paperCONSv2/TRANSPARENT BACKGROUND/maps copy.png
paperCONSv2/TRANSPARENT BACKGROUND/notes copy.png
paperCONSv2/TRANSPARENT BACKGROUND/phone copy.png
paperCONSv2/TRANSPARENT BACKGROUND/settings copy.png
paperCONSv2/TRANSPARENT BACKGROUND/sms copy.png
paperCONSv2/TRANSPARENT BACKGROUND/stocks copy.png
paperCONSv2/TRANSPARENT BACKGROUND/Thumbs.db
paperCONSv2/TRANSPARENT BACKGROUND/weather copy.png
paperCONSv2/TRANSPARENT BACKGROUND/youtube copy.png

It makes sense and it doesn't make sense at the same time. First off, the names for the .png files doesn't coincide with the names of the directories that the images will be put in. Second, if you look at the TRANSPARENT BACKGROUND directory, all the files aren't even named the same as the other two directories!! Why is album.png named album.png? I figured out by myself that it's actually the icon-Photos.png. Still... the lack of consistency.. ARGH!!!

Here is my proposal:

paperCONS.ipb
paperCONS.ipb/1.0
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/.DS_Store
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/Calculator.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/Calculator.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/Maps.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/Maps.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/MobileCal.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/MobileCal.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/MobileMail.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/MobileMail.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/MobileMusicPlayer.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/MobileMusicPlayer.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/MobileNotes.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/MobileNotes.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/MobilePhone.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/MobilePhone.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/MobileSafari.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/MobileSafari.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/MobileSlideShow.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/MobileSlideShow.app/icon-Camera.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/MobileSlideShow.app/icon-Photos.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/MobileSMS.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/MobileSMS.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/MobileTimer.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/MobileTimer.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/Preferences.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/Preferences.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/Stocks.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/Stocks.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/Weather.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/Weather.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/YouTube.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/Applications/YouTube.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/System
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/System/Library
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/System/Library/CoreServices
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/System/Library/CoreServices/SpringBoard.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Default/System/Library/CoreServices/SpringBoard.app/SBDockBG2.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/.DS_Store
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/Calculator.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/Calculator.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/Maps.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/Maps.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/MobileCal.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/MobileCal.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/MobileMail.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/MobileMail.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/MobileMusicPlayer.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/MobileMusicPlayer.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/MobileNotes.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/MobileNotes.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/MobilePhone.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/MobilePhone.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/MobileSafari.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/MobileSafari.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/MobileSlideShow.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/MobileSlideShow.app/icon-Camera.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/MobileSlideShow.app/icon-Photos.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/MobileSMS.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/MobileSMS.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/MobileTimer.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/MobileTimer.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/Preferences.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/Preferences.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/Stocks.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/Stocks.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/Weather.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/Weather.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/YouTube.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/Applications/YouTube.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/System
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/System/Library
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/System/Library/CoreServices
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/System/Library/CoreServices/SpringBoard.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/No Background/System/Library/CoreServices/SpringBoard.app/SBDockBG2.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/.DS_Store
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/Calculator.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/Calculator.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/Maps.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/Maps.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/MobileCal.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/MobileCal.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/MobileMail.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/MobileMail.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/MobileMusicPlayer.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/MobileMusicPlayer.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/MobileNotes.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/MobileNotes.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/MobilePhone.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/MobilePhone.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/MobileSafari.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/MobileSafari.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/MobileSlideShow.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/MobileSlideShow.app/icon-Camera.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/MobileSlideShow.app/icon-Photos.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/MobileSMS.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/MobileSMS.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/MobileTimer.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/MobileTimer.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/Preferences.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/Preferences.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/Stocks.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/Stocks.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/Weather.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/Weather.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/YouTube.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/Applications/YouTube.app/icon.png
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/System
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/System/Library
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/System/Library/CoreServices
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/System/Library/CoreServices/SpringBoard.app
paperCONS.ipb/1.0/Transparent Background/System/Library/CoreServices/SpringBoard.app/SBDockBG2.png

Now to dissect what's going on. The "paperCONS.ipb" directory will be the name of the theme. So for the recently released Bach theme, it'd be "Bach.ipb", for "The Matrix" theme, it could be "The Matrix.ipb" The reason I choose to add a file extension to the directory is so when someone smarter than myself decides to make a theme manager for MacOS X, they can simply say that .ipb directories are iPhone Bundles!

Next up is a version number. 1.0. This will be the version of the iPhone OS that the theme is targeted for, NOT the theme version.

Next up is Default. I think if a theme has only one variation it should just have one folder. Default. If it has multiple variations, the theme author will simply create whatever subfolder names they want. This could also help if a theme author wants multiple "versions" of their theme in the .ipb bundle (for instance, GunMetal could have GunMetal/1.0/Default, GunMetal/1.0/Version 1, GunMetal/1.0/Version 1.5, etc).

Next up, you'll notice that inside the Default directory I've opted to keep the EXACT same directory structure as the iPhone. I honestly believe this makes the most sense in the long term. It also forces all theme authors to abide by a consistent standard.

The other advantages is that we could use this directory structure to eventually theme non .png files... or add applications (once the developer toolkit is in place).

Personally, I suck at graphics, but am a relatively decent sound enginner. I want to start released Audio themes... This method of organization allows me to do so easily!

I'll be releasing the script that interfaces with iPhoneInterface within the next few days, so if anyone is interested in testing it, hit me up. It'll be written in PERL so it should be cross platform compatible (I use Mac).

Now, the disadvantage to having things laid out like this is that if someone wants to apply a theme by hand, there are a LOT more directories to navigate. Another disadvantage with my proposal is "bad" themes could be created that overwrite files they shouldn't... However this could be negated by whomever creates the software to apply themes (for instance, only put .png and .caf files on the device unless otherwise allowed by the user). I can't think of any other disadvantages off the top of my head... or any problems with what I'm planning... which is why I'm posting here before I finish up the script I'm working on... to get feedback!

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if you get that script running correctly I'd be happy to test it out on os x. A also agree on a standard but it's hard to standardize individuals. Of course with a script that installs for a standard that might help influence the aceeptance of such standard.
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Standard Skeleton

In case any theme creators are interested, I've attached a zip file which has a Default theme skeleton.
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There was no file in the Skeleton.zip timblade.
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Skeleton.zip

Hmm. It should have no files... Just an empty directory structure ready for some creative skinner to load with goodies! If you'd like me to post the zip files for the Bach and paperCONS themes I converted to be in my layout, I could do so...

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Awesome idea. I'd love to test it out on OS X as well. We have pretty much written the book on iPhone skinning, so it'd be great to put together a definite skin structure.

Awesome work.
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i think your concept is sound, i have a few questions / assumptions.
1. since its in perl it will work in either windows or mac?
2. would your structure also cater to different DisplayOrder.plists?

i think its a great idea, i would WELCOME one click or one line theme installs. Could you also include in this a restore feature? which could draw on a folder inside phonedmg or included with your code in a zip file. also there was another code which had a safety measure which would backup the last skin you had in your iphone then import the new skin in and hold the old skin in a directory. I thought that was a great idea especially if you just want to try out a skin. just some thoughts out loud. good luck, if its windows comp id like to try it. I'd also make my theme compatible with it if all works out well.
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great idea. I will Definately follow suite on my next theme. The hard part is getting everyone to conform.
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Nah, it wouldn't be too tough for us to set a standard here. We have most of the iPhone skinners on our site, so it would be a simple matter of setting it all up and documenting it. Then we just get the guys to start following it, and write a program to install 'em.
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1) Yes! I plan on actually using an open source package called "perl2exe" and trying to make the Windows version not require people to install a PERL distribution... Which should facilitate quick and early adoption.

2) Yes! The beauty of how I'm proposing is that it'll allow you to use the "iPhoneBundle" package to put really anything on your phone. People could make ringtone packs. That recently released SOCKS proxy stuff... Someone could probably create a 2 or 3 step iPhoneBundle to install it (e.g. Install Bundle 1, restart, install Bundle 2, restart, install Bundle 3, etc.). Again, the downside of this is if someone blindly installs bundles, someone could sneak something malicious in there... which is why I plan on havng my program tell you exactly what it's about to write to your iPhone.

I actually do plan on implementing a "backup files that are overwritten" feature. If you decide to use that switch then you'd provide a bundle name (example, install_ipb.pl -v -b MyBackup20070729 MyNewTheme).

First I need to get an initial version done which puts the files up. I've done some experimentation and it will be possible for me to use perl to pipe commands into iPhoneInterface... I'm going on a 3 hour road trip (Portland to Seattle), so hopefully I'll have it ready to go for Mac people to test by tomorrow. I won't be able to test a Windows version quite yet (all I have are Macs).

If you really are interested in testing, get http://www.activestate.com/store/pro...5-08d58c2648ca . It's PERL for Windows!

I agree with poetic_folly in terms of getting people to adopt. I've been lurking on the forums for a bit waiting to see if anyone would spearhead something like I've proposed... No one has yet, and I think just getting some of the major players in the fledgling iPhone skinning scene to adopt this will cascade throughout.

Also, I'd love to get in touch with the author of that ringtone uploading program (iFuntastic I think it is). I briefly checked it out and think it'd be a great candidate to implement this idea on the GUI side of things. Personally, I'm a command-line sort of guy.

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i think your concept is sound, i have a few questions / assumptions.
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2. would your structure also cater to different DisplayOrder.plists?

i think its a great idea, i would WELCOME one click or one line theme installs. Could you also include in this a restore feature? which could draw on a folder inside phonedmg or included with your code in a zip file. also there was another code which had a safety measure which would backup the last skin you had in your iphone then import the new skin in and hold the old skin in a directory. I thought that was a great idea especially if you just want to try out a skin. just some thoughts out loud. good luck, if its windows comp id like to try it. I'd also make my theme compatible with it if all works out well.
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if it takes activestate ill install it to test it for you, just give me a link to the package and the test files you want me to upload and ill give it a shot for the windows folk, you may also want to talk with secks, hes doing something very similar to you, i dont think its in perl though but same concept , hes doing it for windows only called ithemer here
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This is AWESOME!

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sweet!

Cool! I'll check your stuff out as soon as I'm around a computer with net access and let you know if the changes will be compatible with what I've written.

I got my script functioning properly! I'll attach it as soon as I have net access (again, probably tomorrow).

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I have to be organized when I'm skinning my iPhone or I will go crazy so I came up with my own way of organizing all my files. After seeing several styles of organization, I think I like this way the best. I did, however, make a few changes to your "Skeleton" and am going to upload it. If anyone sees a mistake or would like to add something, just let me know. I am thinking about re-uploading all my Themes so that they will have my "Skin Structure". I will be using this on all my themes from now on. Any comments, concerns, additions, and suggestions?

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I got my script functioning properly! I'll attach it as soon as I have net access (again, probably tomorrow).
Nice!, I'm looking forward to see what you did.
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I'm excited too!
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