[pj_rage]

Originally Posted by bhz1

I just rebooted my iphone and ssh connected. I am wondering if it has something to do with a combination on updating certain programs in Cydia and rebooting the pc. My problems all started with an update of "mobile substrate" through Cydia. Although I'm not wondering if its permissions connected. But why when the connection issue occurs does plugging ointo itunes fix it even without a sync?

One more thing, it seems like when this problem starts, the iphone/itunes does not want to sync updates to app store apps.

Perhaps its a function of the itunes 8 recognizing jailbroken firmware?

I don't think I've connected my phone to the computer once since jailbreaking 2.1. I'm not sure what affect itunes and the usb has on the phone that would help/hurt SSH or anything else for that matter.

[albior]

before JBing my 2.1, I noticed the phone crashed mostly when I was listening to music while using another app. 2.1 is so much better than previous crap, especially regarding keyboard lag, since in my case I'm using 3 languages plus the Japanese "cellphone" keyboard.
Since JBing and theming my 3G, I've notice a significant, although worth it, overall lag, especially since installing the "illuminated" wallpaper (8 pics changing every 3 hours). BUT, to be honest, I'm wondering whether Cydia itself might not be the source of the lag, since I don't have SSH, haven't used Boss yet and because cydia is crashing one time out of three when I install stuff.

[pj_rage]

Originally Posted by albior

before JBing my 2.1, I noticed the phone crashed mostly when I was listening to music while using another app. 2.1 is so much better than previous crap, especially regarding keyboard lag, since in my case I'm using 3 languages plus the Japanese "cellphone" keyboard.
Since JBing and theming my 3G, I've notice a significant, although worth it, overall lag, especially since installing the "illuminated" wallpaper (8 pics changing every 3 hours). BUT, to be honest, I'm wondering whether Cydia itself might not be the source of the lag, since I don't have SSH, haven't used Boss yet and because cydia is crashing one time out of three when I install stuff.

Totally agree with you on the 2.1 being better than 2.0.2 regarding crashing, etc. My phone works so much better on 2.1 than previous firmwares, even with the lag that jailbreaking/winterboard supposedly causes (supposedly because I didn't stay on 2.1 enough to confirm it personally). I definitely experience MUCH MUCH better signal on 3g, AND 3g actually works like it did on 2.0 and 2.0.1 (2.0.2 made 3g have signal but not load data pretty much all of the time, for me).

My only gripe is the mediaserverd process going rogue half the time and running my battery down faster than it should. It's not like it's using a ton of CPU time, only 3%, so instead of using basically no battery life in airplane mode, it uses like 2.5% per hour. So 5 hours in airplane mode and not using it, without mediaserverd running rogue, yields MAYBE 1% battery change, but usually just stays the same number However, with 5 hours of mediaserverd running rogue in airplane mode, without using the phone, the battery is down by around 12.5-13%. So even if I leave the phone in airplane mode all day, don't use it at all, after a 12 hour day, it's at like 70-75% And my usage stats are way up (and wrong).

[bhz1]

Originally Posted by pj_rage

I don't think I've connected my phone to the computer once since jailbreaking 2.1. I'm not sure what affect itunes and the usb has on the phone that would help/hurt SSH or anything else for that matter.

Beats the heck out of me as well what itunes would have to do with wifi/SSH.

I remember having an issue with mediaserverd running on my 2G iphone and eating my battery. I installed Respring and got in the habit of respringing after using my iphone and that seemed to kill any rogue processes running.

Just curious.
Which JB method did you use?

What apps do you have installed?

[pj_rage]

Originally Posted by bhz1

Beats the heck out of me as well what itunes would have to do with wifi/SSH.

I remember having an issue with mediaserverd running on my 2G iphone and eating my battery. I installed Respring and got in the habit of respringing after using my iphone and that seemed to kill any rogue processes running.

Just curious.
Which JB method did you use?

What apps do you have installed?

I followed pretty much the same method that everyone with windows did (to my knowledge) who jailbroke 2.1 before quickpwn and winpwn were officially out for it. Upgrade to 2.1, uninstall itunes 8, run quickpwn with the 2.1 firmware, copy over the cracked mobileinstallation framework and delete the cache file using t pot.

I have a bunch of apps installed. A solid 40 app store apps I'm guessing, and a bunch of cydia stuff. They are the exact same apps to the T that I had on 2.0.2 without any problems. I ran a script to list all installed packages to a file (all cydia apps), and then installed them all in one fell swoop after the upgrade using the file with the installed packages listed. So I know they are the same as before the upgrade. Either way, the only ones I can think of that might be able to cause this problem would be Cydia, Winterboard, Bossprefs, Dock, and Quick Gold. As I think I mentioned, it seems that others out there with non-jailbroken phones have been having a problem very similar to mine since upgrading to 2.1 where the usage number is way higher than it should be, and the battery is draining faster than ever. Since they aren't jailbroken, they can't check the mediaserverd process to see if it's the same problem as me, but also, it sort of makes me rule out any jailbroken apps. But my problem could still be different, so I haven't completely ruled out jailbroken apps just yet.

On another note, some sort-of good news - Last night, while mediaserverd was running rogue while the phone was "sleeping" with insomnia on, I killed the process, and it immediately popped back up, but this time using 0% as it should be. And I haven't been able to get it to go rogue since. I individually opened all of the apps I know I've used recently and had the problem afterward, and then put the phone back to sleep and watched mediaserverd shut down properly. I can't imagine that killing the process and letting it restart could have "fixed" it but even still I haven't been able to replicate it yet no matter how hard I try. I'm sure it'll come back randomly as it always does, but it hasn't yet. I even tried restarting the phone and it still hasn't gone rogue. I was hoping to find a particular action or app that was causing the problem, but to no avail yet. At least now I know how to stop the problem if it comes back... I should be able to just use mobileterminal to kill it if I know it's misbehaving.

[bhz1]

Interesting. Boss Prefs seemed to cause me major signal woes on 2.02 so i didnt install it on 2.1 I have isolated my problems to happening after installing 5 icon doc since the related mobile substrate upgrade of a few days ago.

Perhaps the fact that you installed all your apps via a script helped? I also found that my iphone worked best after the inital JB release as you did, but I figured after the official quickpwn came out, i should use that and have I been sorry. I recall having similar issues after upgrading to 2.02. Worked great after the quickpwn workaround method but when i did it the "official way" signal problems.

Think I'm going to go back one more time and do it the first way again.

Question, I'm assuming you killed the mediaserverd process via terminal since there is no sysinfo program for 2.x?

[reznor9]

I am also experiencing a pretty hefty battery drain, even though 2.1 was supposed to correct this... is this because of BossPrefs? My only real reason for using bossprefs is for the battery percentage meter, is there another app that preforms this task?

Also, since I pwnaged my way to 2.1, my GPS has not been fuctioning well at all.. 95% of the time it will not work. Is this due to a 3rd party app, or could this be related to pwnage not updating the baseband(hence the old baseband is possible conflicting with the new 2.1 firmware)?

[pj_rage]

Originally Posted by bhz1

Interesting. Boss Prefs seemed to cause me major signal woes on 2.02 so i didnt install it on 2.1 I have isolated my problems to happening after installing 5 icon doc since the related mobile substrate upgrade of a few days ago.

Perhaps the fact that you installed all your apps via a script helped? I also found that my iphone worked best after the inital JB release as you did, but I figured after the official quickpwn came out, i should use that and have I been sorry. I recall having similar issues after upgrading to 2.02. Worked great after the quickpwn workaround method but when i did it the "official way" signal problems.

Think I'm going to go back one more time and do it the first way again.

Question, I'm assuming you killed the mediaserverd process via terminal since there is no sysinfo program for 2.x?

Yeah, I was ssh'd in with putty. Just found it's id and issued "kill [ID]". I've only ever jailbroken this one phone, and only two times. Both times were "unofficial." That is, before the official windows version came out. I jailbroke the 2.0.2 using the 2.0.1 firmware after upgrading to 2.0.2, and I jailbroke 2.1 using the method I described. I never had any real issues that I could attribute to jailbreaking on 2.0.2, and definitely not this battery issue, but it's possible that I had the same app opening lag because I never compared it to non-jailbroken, and I didn't notice this JB 2.1 being any worse than JB 2.0.2 as far as app-opening lag.

Originally Posted by reznor9

I am also experiencing a pretty hefty battery drain, even though 2.1 was supposed to correct this... is this because of BossPrefs? My only real reason for using bossprefs is for the battery percentage meter, is there another app that preforms this task?

Also, since I pwnaged my way to 2.1, my GPS has not been fuctioning well at all.. 95% of the time it will not work. Is this due to a 3rd party app, or could this be related to pwnage not updating the baseband(hence the old baseband is possible conflicting with the new 2.1 firmware)?

My gps seems to be alright so far on 2.1, but I don't use it a whole lot. What's the problem here? Does it never lock on with the solid blue dot but it does give you the bigger target looking thing? Or does it not give either?

As far as your battery.. When you notice it's been draining faster, and you view your usage stats, does the "usage" number seem right? Or is it several hours higher and close to or equal to your standby number? If it seems higher, that is, seems like it's reading way more time than you would guess you've actually used the phone, then can you install top and insomnia from cydia, lock the phone, wait a minute, then ssh into the phone while it's asleep and watch top to see if the mediaserverd process is using any cpu while the phone is supposed to be sleeping? (Or any process other than top, that is).

[reznor9]

It never pinpoints unless Im using wifi... otherwise I just get the large circle like I did with the 2G...
af for the battery drain, I try to turn off push and the locator to see if that helps... the usage meter seems to say Im using my iPhone more than I can recall... I just did a clean install....
When I restore my old settings after a restore I seem to have the bossprefs battery percentage even though I didnt reinstall it... that being said, will I still have the performance drain from bossprefs even though it isnt installed?

[pj_rage]

Originally Posted by reznor9

It never pinpoints unless Im using wifi... otherwise I just get the large circle like I did with the 2G...
af for the battery drain, I try to turn off push and the locator to see if that helps... the usage meter seems to say Im using my iPhone more than I can recall... I just did a clean install....
When I restore my old settings after a restore I seem to have the bossprefs battery percentage even though I didnt reinstall it... that being said, will I still have the performance drain from bossprefs even though it isnt installed?

It sounds like when you restored you restored from a backup. That's why the battery icon is still there and stuff. You need to restore as new phone to be sure it's gone.

[reznor9]

Originally Posted by pj_rage

It sounds like when you restored you restored from a backup. That's why the battery icon is still there and stuff. You need to restore as new phone to be sure it's gone.

correct, I restored from a backup. So it seems like bossprefs probably edited the iPhones preferences file to make the battery percentage meter and iTunes made a backup of that, which it restored... so Im thinking that it should be ok... there shouldnt be anything else from bossprefs within the iPhones files. Im gonna try it out like this and see if I get better performance...

On a good note, my GPS seems functional again.

[DuRo]

Originally Posted by pj_rage

Which problem do you notice... sluggish app opening or reduced battery life?

Pretty much all of my apps are a little sluggish to open, but I honestly don't think they are much worse than 2.0.2 was (jailbroken). I don't remember how fast they opened on 2.0.2 without the jailbreak/winterboard, and I didn't give 2.1 very long non-jailbroken/non-winterboard, so I don't have much basis for comparison, but the amount of time doesn't bother me too much anyway.

How is winterboard causing this sluggishness anyway? I thought it is basically just a front end for replacing system files with different ones? I didn't think anything was "running in the background" so to speak. I mean, what would happen if you uninstalled winterboard and just replaced the artwork files yourself, would there still be a performance hit?

When you press the 3rd party app (not apples app) it shadows but hang a little bit before opening. Meaning the icons get stuck a little bit before opening the app. It only happens to 3rd party apps from the appstore and itunes not cydia or installer apps or the default apps . Compare both and tell me what you think.

Originally Posted by albior

before JBing my 2.1, I noticed the phone crashed mostly when I was listening to music while using another app. 2.1 is so much better than previous crap, especially regarding keyboard lag, since in my case I'm using 3 languages plus the Japanese "cellphone" keyboard.
Since JBing and theming my 3G, I've notice a significant, although worth it, overall lag, especially since installing the "illuminated" wallpaper (8 pics changing every 3 hours). BUT, to be honest, I'm wondering whether Cydia itself might not be the source of the lag, since I don't have SSH, haven't used Boss yet and because cydia is crashing one time out of three when I install stuff.

We all know themes with wallpapers changing every 15 min or so make the iphone sluggish, because its working in the background . What we mean its overall sluggish just by installing winterboard and regular themes

[461am]

Duro, the first thing you said about apps opening sluggishly, this happens for everything on my phone, I always notice it for safari because I click on it, nothing happens, I get frustrated, click again, all my icons start wiggling. I've been able to trace this down directly to winterboard after having a unmodified phone for nearly a week with no issues and then as soon as I jailbroke and installer winterboard, it started happening again.
My 'theory' on it is that since winterboard works through mobilesubstrate, that meaning no direct patching of any file, it is the culprit; as it forces more and more on the cpu with additional theming.

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[pj_rage]

Originally Posted by 461am

Duro, the first thing you said about apps opening sluggishly, this happens for everything on my phone, I always notice it for safari because I click on it, nothing happens, I get frustrated, click again, all my icons start wiggling. I've been able to trace this down directly to winterboard after having a unmodified phone for nearly a week with no issues and then as soon as I jailbroke and installer winterboard, it started happening again.
My 'theory' on it is that since winterboard works through mobilesubstrate, that meaning no direct patching of any file, it is the culprit; as it forces more and more on the cpu with additional theming.

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Ahh, I didn't know winterboard didn't just replace files. So it is "changing" the artwork files "on the fly" ? That would explain how it can cause such a performance hit anyway.

And Duro, I didn't test everything, but I didn't notice a big difference between third party app store apps and "regular" apps. They both stayed grayed out for half a second before they load. Granted, I only have one app store app even on my springboard, everything else is categorized. The longest wait for me while loading apps is after they leave springboard, they sit at the "last screenshot" view for like a full second at least. Some apps worse than others (sms for example).

[DuRo]

pj_rage its mostly when you have install over 40 app store apps.