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Old 07-03-2007, 01:54 PM
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want to find source for M/F 30 pin connector

I want to build a pass through 30 pin connector so I can tap off the battery charger pins to charge the iPhone using either a solar cell or inductive pickup. Either would be attached to the back of the iPhone.

Set the iPhone down with the screen facing up and the inductive pickup would be sensed and energy would be transferred to the battery.

Set the iPhone down with the screen facing up and the solar cell would be sensed and energy would be transferred to the battery ( using the proper radiation frequency ) using LEDs.

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pin one is on the left

The female dock

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30

The male dock

1 3 5 7 9 11 13 15 17 19 21 23 25 27 29
2 4 6 8 10 12 14 16 18 20 22 24 26 28 30

1 - Ground (-) 1
2 - Line Out - Common Ground (-) 1
3 - Line Out - R (+)
4 - Line Out - L (+)
5 - Line In - R (+)
6 - Line In - L (+)
7 -
8 - Video Out - Composite Video (for ipod colour when slideshow activated) 6
9 - S-Video Chrominance 7
10 - S-Video Luminance 7
11 - Serial GND
12 - Serial TxD
13 - Serial RxD
14 -
15 - Ground (-) 2
16 - USB GND (-) 2
17 -
18 - 3.3V Power (+) 8
19 - Firewire Power 12 VDC (+) 3
20 - Firewire Power 12 VDC (+) 3
21 - Accessory Indicator 4
22 - FireWire Data TPA (-)
23 - USB Power 5 VDC (+) 9
24 - FireWire Data TPA (+)
25 - USB Data (-) 9
26 - FireWire Data TPB (-)
27 - USB Data (+) 9
28 - FireWire Data TPB (+)
29 - FireWire Ground (-) 5
30 - FireWire Ground (-) 5

Note 1: Pins 1 and 2 are connected on motherboard
Note 2: Pins 15 and 16 connected on motherboard
Note 3: Pins 19 and 20 connected on motherboard
Note 4: Pin 21 connected to ground via a resistor. Different resistances indicate which accessory is connected. Known resistances/functions (ohms) are as follows:
1 kΩ - iPod docking station, iPod beeps when connected
10 kΩ - Takes my iPod into photo import mode
500 kΩ - vava uses this for his serial-via-dock experiments. Used in Dension Ice Link Plus car interface
1 MΩ - Belkin auto adaptor, iPod shuts down automatically when power disconnected
Note 5: Pins 29 and 30 connected on motherboard
Note 6: Composite out uses common ground as ground
Note 7: Newly discovered from iPod Color Dock
Note 8: 18 stepped up to provide +5 VDC to USB on iPod Camera Connector.
If iPod is put to sleep while Camera Connector is present, +5 VDC on USB slowly drains back to 0 VDC.
If Camera Connector is disconnected, draining power can be detected between this pin on the Camera Connector dock connector and +5 VDC on USB connector.
Used by the Honda Music Link to detect the presence of an iPod.
Note 9: 25 and 27, D- and D+. Different kind of behaviour of the iPod if those pins are set to a certain state:
To force the iPod (useful for the iPod 5G) to charge in any case, when 'USB Power 5 VDC' (pin 23) is fed, pin 25 must be connected to 3.3V (USB uses 3.3V for data communication, you can connect to 5V but its not as safe) through a 10 kΩ resistor, and 27 must be connected to the Ground (for example: pin 1) with a 10 kΩ resistor. 10 kΩ resistor has been determined experimentally.
To force the iPod nano 2nd generation (aluminium case) to charge, you have to connect pin 25 to 5 VDC (pin 23) through a 10 kΩ resistor while leaving pin 27 unconnected.
To properly charge iPod nano 2nd generation, connect pin 25 to 2.5 VDC through 10 kΩ resistor, while pin 27 receives 2 VDC.

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oh and I also had fun with this back in the day

http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/25/h...r-dock-part-2/


and some more crap

The dock connector used on the iPod is a proprietary connector manufactured for Apple by JAE. To obtain the mating connectors for the iPod you must contact Apple, sign an NDA and the "Made for iPod" agreement, and probably jump through more hoops. I was told by a tech at JAE that the Apple part numbers are as listed below, but end with "2" instead of "1". See the photo below that shows how the Apple parts are "keyed" differently from the standard parts.
The following parts were ordered in March 2006:
JAE p/n DD1P030MA1
(Obtained from from Mouser.com)
Cord mount "plug". Mates with DD1R030HA1. Does NOT mate with iPod 5G.
This connector is different than the one pictured below. Photos will be posted shortly.
JAE p/n DD1B030HA1
(Obtained as a sample from JAE's U.S. sales Office in Irvine)
Horizontal PCB mount "plug". Mates with DD1R030HA1. Does NOT mate with iPod 5G.
JAE p/n DD1R030HA1
(Obtained as a sample from JAE's U.S. sales Office in Irvine)
Horizontal PCB mount "receptacle". This part is analogous to the dock connector within the iPod, but it is keyed differently. It mates with DD1P030MA1 and DD1B030HA1. Does NOT mate with iPod dock model A1153 or iPod USB cable.
JAE p/n DD1B030VA1
(Obtained as a sample from JAE's U.S. sales Office in Irvine)
This is the 75 degree angled connector as used on the Apple iPod Dock Model A1153. This is the only connector I was able to obtain that mated with the iPod connectors without any modification. It does not mate with the DD1R030HA1. This is odd. JAE may have sent me the Apple part by mistake.
It appears that the DD1P030MA1 and DD1B030HA1 can be modified to mate with the iPod. You would need a small grinder to remove a very small amount of metal and plastic on the one side that interferes with the "key" in the iPod's receptacle.
Contact resistance: 50 milliohms max
Rated for 0.5A signaling, 1.0A power (30 volts).
Mating cycle of 10,000 times.
For detailed specifications: http://www.jae-connector.com/en/gene...eries_code=DD1

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Old 07-04-2007, 01:26 PM
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LOVE YOUR INFORMATION plus something more

A company on the internet claims to have connectors and extender boards for the iPOD.
google ( gurgle) ridax ipod dock connector

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To Cash7c3

may I quote/post you at another site ?

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