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Old 11-29-2007, 11:33 PM
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For Windows iPhone Would-Be Developers: Does this interest you?

Hey all,

This is Drakenza--if you don't know me, I wrote iDemocracy. If you don't know iDemocracy...

Anyway, I've been messing around with the iPhone SDK and Toolchain and love it, but it took a whole weekend to get it compiled and running on my Vista PC and even longer to make it work on Leopard.
It occurred to me that nobody had automated the installation or shortened it. By stripping out the copyrighted stuff and redistributing pre-built llvm, toolchain, etc, and then retrieving the libraries from a jailbroken iPhone, you could do the whole toolchain installation in something like 15 minutes

Just wondering if anyone would care if a wrote a program to do this and started a Google Code project, and then redistributed the supporting built files (about 500mb) on one of those file sharing sites (probably Megaupload, as it offers a 500mb size). Then you'd have to download the 500mb file, the small GUI installer, give it your iPhone's IP address, and it would SCP off files from your iPhone and put the toolchain on your computer. This is confirmed to work for Windows XP and Vista for building just about every open-source iPhone app out there, as well as your own.

Also, if anyone knows, what's the legality on distributing the vfdecrypted iPhone restore image? If I distribute files from that image, would that be considered legal? Would it be legal, then, to distribute the lib files off an iPhone?

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Old 11-30-2007, 02:05 AM
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wow im truly in the presense of greatness. iDemocracy is a fantastic program. Your Idea sounds innovative seems to really lay down some bricks. Regretably I have noprogramming experience so I can't help. But I think this could help others like myself learn.
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Old 11-30-2007, 02:48 AM
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I would love something like this. Would help for developers as well, to get them more likely to develop, or just save them time.
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:35 PM
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OK, if people are actually interested in this kind of thing, I'll start putting it together.
Suggestions for a name are welcome I'm thinking winChain, or the very original "Drakenza's Toolchain Installer" (not really, just kidding).
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:55 PM
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winChain is not bad.
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awesome man. been trying to make my toolchain work on my vista. no luck at all. i keep getting errors on my cygwin and everytime i find a solution for it another one pops out. if you can make a GUI text editor that can compile iphone apps, that would really be cool. something alot of people would be willing to pay for. hehehe
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Old 12-01-2007, 05:37 PM
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The project is now under development. See http://winchain.googlecode.com for details.
For questions, etc, you can contact winchainbuilder@gmail.com
For donations, go here.

Hopefully I'll have this done in a couple of days. Hope you guys like it

And don't worry, I'm not going to forget about iDemocracy... I have a lot of plans...
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ill surely donate on this one.
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Old 12-02-2007, 01:18 AM
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this is again an amazing idea. i've got alot of ideas that would make great programs but now i'm gonna be able to try.

keyword TRY

you should give lessons Drakenza
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Old 12-02-2007, 01:27 AM
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call it the GREAT DIMENSIONAL GOVERNMENT. that way apple don't get all snoopy.
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Old 12-02-2007, 02:31 AM
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Hey all,
winChain 1.0 has been released on winchain.googlecode.com so you can go download that now. Unfortunately the preBuiltToolchain that is required for it is still uploading to MegaUpload.com and won't be done for a couple of hours. A link will be posted tomorrow morning.

winChain 1.0 comes with the toolchain builder, as well as an iPhone Application Template builder which can generate a whole iPhone project for you that you can edit and then build.

EDIT: I'll also try and torrent out the preBuiltToolchain for those of you who prefer BitTorrent.

Happy coding, everyone! If you need help with Objective-C I can lend a hand at winchainbuilder@gmail.com, but don't ask me for a full ObjC tutorial for Dummies

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Old 12-02-2007, 04:44 AM
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Hey all,
winChain 1.0 has been released on winchain.googlecode.com so you can go download that now. Unfortunately the preBuiltToolchain that is required for it is still uploading to MegaUpload.com and won't be done for a couple of hours. A link will be posted tomorrow morning.

winChain 1.0 comes with the toolchain builder, as well as an iPhone Application Template builder which can generate a whole iPhone project for you that you can edit and then build.

EDIT: I'll also try and torrent out the preBuiltToolchain for those of you who prefer BitTorrent.

Happy coding, everyone! If you need help with Objective-C I can lend a hand at winchainbuilder@gmail.com, but don't ask me for a full ObjC tutorial for Dummies
thanks for the work you put into this, if i hadn't already had my toolchain built, i'd be all over it

p.s. i'll most likely be dropping you line with some objective c questions.
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Old 12-02-2007, 09:28 AM
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Great idea, toolchains are a pain usually to install.

I used to do some PSP homebrew and awaited and easier way to get ready for the iPhone. Seeing as Februaury and apples release is still a far way off, i'd love to play with it now and looks like your project will give me the start i needed.
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Old 12-02-2007, 12:26 PM
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Check winchain.googlecode.com!
winChain 1.0 is now officially released, and the preBuiltToolchain is up as well.
Please, please send feedback to winchainbuilder@gmail.com

Actually, the moderators/administrators can close this thread now, as it's kind of served it's purpose (I know that some people are interested, and the project has been started).

I'll make another thread later announcing the release...

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Man you the Man!

I WILL SAY IT SIMPLE YOU THE MAN, What you did is amazing, I am still downloading, did not try to make my first APP for iPhone, BUT WOWWWWWWW, SOO HAPPY

PLEASE GO ON, GO ON
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