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New Version of lockinfo and todo works perfectly my iPhone is now complete. Thanks!...
11-07-2009, 06:32 PM #121
New Version of lockinfo and todo works perfectly my iPhone is now complete. Thanks!
11-08-2009, 09:34 AM #122
I've looked for the answer, but can't find it here...I have tried Lockinfo and intelliscreen. Lockinfo looks SO much better, but what I miss from intelliscreen is the ability to tap on an email that pops up, and get quickview. Is this possible in Lockinfo? I may just be missing a setting or something...Thanks!
11-08-2009, 11:35 AM #123
Dave, I am a little torn about how to approach LI. I understand that LI will lack significant themeabilities and I simply don't like its looks. At the same time I like i the speed and reliability and the plugin structure. On the other hand, I like html/js/css themes like gruppled, since they can be themed easily and even allow significant user interaction beyond simple collapse/expand. Just take a look at my Aqwoah version of gruppled, where I can slide monthly calendars or different weather locations or RSS feeds or add buttons to modify behavior. The problem I am facing is that I will have to hard-code everything and reinvent the wheel if I want to add plugins. So in that respect html rendering sucks.
I guess what I'm trying to get at is whether you could think of a way to somehow give us the best of both worlds. The following may not be realistic, but you may think about it. In addition to the native rendering mode, give us an html mode where LI simply provides the framework for users to add html plugins (and I'm not talking about the Matte UI structure (although it is close to it). So this is what LI could implement:
1. Header container with plist-based elements (background image, icon, title, variable description, 3 optional button fields, optional right icon). It would also receive a default state (collapsed or not). It would point to a plugin html file (plus js plus css) that populates it.
2. Optional Subheader containers with plist-based elements (background image, icon, title, variable description, 3 optional button fields, optional right icon). It would also receive a default state (enabled or not). It would point to a plugin html file that populates it.
3. Subview container with plist-based elements (background image, size). It would point to a plugin html file that populates it.
Each of the above would point to a function.js file that is executed when a tap, double-tap, swipe in any direction occurs. Finally, it would be cool if the html and js functions could access the variables/contents of any of the plugins you produce in the native render mode, so we don't have to generate that info ourselves.
This way, people with web skills could come up with lots of creative plugins without having to worry about the structure of the page and its animations. They could just concentrate on making cool contents within the framework of containers.
As I said, this is just a crazy idea that may give you some thoughts.
11-08-2009, 09:59 PM #124
I'm constantly trying to think of ways to add more simple customizability to the native rendering and I will continue to do that. This is why I didn't remove the HTML rendering... some people prefer the heavy customizations to speed. But it's definitely not my primary (or supported) rendering method.
Just give the native rendering some time to evolve. I'd love to work with you on ideas of how to balance performance with customizability.
11-08-2009, 10:07 PM #125
i updated my lockinfo 2 days ago and now its asking for a license?
11-09-2009, 09:35 AM #126
So Dave, following your discussion with armadillo, what is the primary diff/benefit in using your "native rendering" vs the html stuff? I just purchased lockinfo and must say it is AWESOME! Really like the option to make the Home screen too!
I am currently using armadillo's Aqwoah Lockinfo II (great work too!). It is very nice looking.
That being said, I am always looking for ways to speed things up, use less memory, be more stable etc.
So....long winded question...what's the real impact? Is it really noticeable? What can skinners do without going the html route? Just icons?
Sorry if this is all explained somewhere, just did not find a concise explanation.
Thanks for the very cool programs!kwickone I.T.H.
11-09-2009, 04:06 PM #127
It's really a trade-off. That's why I didn't (and don't plan to) remove HTML theme support. There are too many people out there that like the totally custom look. That said, the HTML themes are basically complete UI rewrites of the core product and are not supported by me. If you have a rendering issue, you need to contact the developer that wrote the theme and hope that s/he is maintaining the theme (some have started to die off).
11-09-2009, 04:34 PM #128
Thanks for the info Dave!
I must admit, you can really change the look and feel by just changing the icons and the header bars. I tried your "sample theme" in the FAQ and it looks pretty good!
I will stick with that until I see what other's might do with HTML or native.
Thanks again.kwickone I.T.H.
11-09-2009, 08:36 PM #129There's no exact formula for the savings you'll see but my anecdotal evidence showed my memory go from starting after respring at about 20-21MB with to 35MB when I starting implementing the native rendering.
--------------------------- Native Render -------------------------------------------- Aqwoah LockInfo II ---------
And this is the full Monty with 3 weather locations and scrolling 3 RSS feeds. So 2 MB is not ideal, but tolerable.
Additional question: Before I start looking at ways to improve native render skinning, I'd like to finish up the html version of my theme by adding Things/Todo sections. Is it possible to use your plugins to obtain the data via JS? This is currently the case for mail and calendar. Are the Todo variables exposed as well? How would I be able to access them?
11-09-2009, 10:54 PM #130
Any one think of using the new cydget to do themeable lock screens with out winterboard?
11-10-2009, 12:52 PM #131
armadillo which sbsettings theme is that?
11-10-2009, 01:11 PM #132
thats the theme I have on my SBsettings. It's Aqwoah
11-11-2009, 06:52 AM #133
The newest Todo Plugin with native rendering (on ModMyI today) does expose JSON data. So do the older Todo and Things plugins. I'll post the format later (baby just woke up).
11-11-2009, 10:41 AM #134
11-12-2009, 05:46 AM #135
Just noticed that there is native plugin for Clock drop down calendar! Very nice, I have been waiting for that... Just one thing. Is it possible to get week numbers to left side of the screen?
I'm not very good at this, but is it hard to make that calendar thing to work on LockInfo Matte UI -theme?
11-13-2009, 08:40 AM #136
I downloaded the Twitter plugin this morning but it doesn't seem to be working. I entered my credentials, resprung the phone. Nothing is showing up.
11-13-2009, 11:23 AM #137
11-13-2009, 01:38 PM #138
Is it because I'm running it under Gruppled? But I go through Winterboard to disable Gruppled and it still doesn't work. In fact, no Lockinfo exists after I do that.
11-13-2009, 02:03 PM #139
Last edited by kwickone; 11-13-2009 at 02:07 PM.kwickone I.T.H.
11-13-2009, 03:50 PM #140
Going to purchase as well when the trial expires this app is truly helpful during a busy day. Also donated to the AlohaSoft repo. That Aqwoah theme is great it just needs to include the todo plugin. Hopefully someone will figure it out.