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Thread: Showtime: New video recorder
01-06-2008, 02:59 PM #61
01-06-2008, 03:06 PM #62Easy answer
iPhone users are accustomed to getting apps without paying anything (based exclusively on the dev's behavior towards pricing, by the way) - hence the attitude that people charging for their programs had better have something very refined and unique to justify an actual cost. As a business owner, I'm sure you understand that every marketplace is unique and naturally sets it's own rules about pricing based on the attitude of suppliers vis a vis the market's climate at any given time.
This will undoubtedly change once Apple starts endorsing 3rd party apps that will survive firmware upgrades without a wait for someone to crack each version. Until then, however, you can be sure there will be rumbles when a new app asks for $$$ up front instead of simply requesting a donation.
Last edited by jwcrash; 01-06-2008 at 03:09 PM.
01-06-2008, 03:14 PM #63
Thanks for the explaination...
One more question...how do these companies make any money? Are you saying they survive and expand based on donations alone?
From my experience, this seems more like a non-profit/charity business model rather than a for profit business model...
01-06-2008, 03:20 PM #64
I have to agree.
How can you feel right about taking money from someone else's hard work?
The dev team cracks the iphone (for free) for you to go ahead and sell your apps without them getting a cent?
But this is not the place to discuss this, should probably make a new topic instead of flooding his.
01-06-2008, 03:24 PM #65
This can be proven out if you simply read through the "Native App Launches" archive...there are countless, "I thought a *** app would be cool, so I coded it last night. Check it out!" threads with nary a mention of financial compensation. Erica Sadun is an EXCELLENT example to start with.
Hope that helps clarify things for you.
Last edited by jwcrash; 01-06-2008 at 03:24 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
01-06-2008, 03:25 PM #66
The reason most people don't want to pay for an app is because it could break in a future Firmware update. $19.99 (Camrapro) is way too much to pay for a program that will be unusable in a few months.
The only way I would be willing to pay over say $5 for an app is if the develop guarantees it will work on any future firmware or promises to release a version that works with the update shortly after or you get your money back. Sorry thats the only way untill Itunes starts selling programs which then of course would not be kiled by updates and I would be more then willing to pay for.
01-06-2008, 03:34 PM #67
01-06-2008, 03:36 PM #68
Getting back to the app discussion:
If paying users save videos in the unique format today's version records in, is it reasonable to assume they can archive them and have a way to convert them in future to a viewable format? Or will the future "converter" only work inside the app with videos recorded under that version?
01-06-2008, 03:45 PM #69
Another question: Is there a way to play back the recordings on a desktop computer and/or a way to convert them to a playable format?
01-06-2008, 03:51 PM #70
01-06-2008, 03:55 PM #71
I think it's great that there are so many people/individuals willing to code and share for free...I just didn't think it should be EXPECTED. I also didn't think it was right to lash out on someone with a business trying to make it profitable...but I understand where the attitude comes from.
With that being said, a product shouldn't be SOLD for a retail price before it's finished...doing so is bad business and will get you in more trouble than it's worth...there's NO WAY I would release an app for sale before it was DONE. You're just inviting problems...
This is all going to be a mute point soon anyway...once Apple releases the SDK and starts licensing apps you are going to have to pay for them anyway. And if Apple has anything to do with them, don't expect them to be cheap.
Last edited by BrianJ; 01-06-2008 at 03:56 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
01-06-2008, 03:57 PM #72
01-06-2008, 04:03 PM #73
01-06-2008, 04:21 PM #74
That's enough bickering, and this thread is way to off topic.
If someone wants to create a thread on pay vs free, feel free too and continue discussion there.
As for the video app fight, neither of you have shown very good proof, Drunknbass especially, when you should be the one with the proof to defend your accusations.
We encourage anyone that knows how to program to "bring apps to the table" for the community. And whoever has the better version, will obvisuly be most popular.
So to both of you, get out there and make your own program better.