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Again, nothing has been stolen from anyone....
01-05-2008, 07:43 PM #21
Again, nothing has been stolen from anyone.
01-05-2008, 07:49 PM #22
01-05-2008, 07:57 PM #23
We'll I know where the code for ShowTime came from, because I wrote every line of it.
1. I've never seen ANY code from drunknbass. Nor been told how to grab video by him or anyone else.
2. The method to capture video is not really out of the ordinary. There is enough info on idevdocs for anyone to piece it together with a bit of playing around. (There are other apps which actually capture stuff in a very similar way)
3. I through some ideas out there on IRC, on some possible methods for some different parts. Like I have done for other things, and will continue to do.
4. I don't work for anyone. I run my own iphone software company, and drunknbass has known that from the get go. If I put in some hard work to put something together, I think I should be able to release it, without people claiming it has been stolen.
5. Nothing has been stolen. Just some LONG hours spent coding a program which has some reasonably challenging aspects.
Apologies if that offends or upsets anyone.
I've not been privy to any private information from drunknbass, my name has just been sitting on his website, for what I thought was an acknowledgement of some help given on IRC (which is what it's for)... but obviously things have since have gone downhill.
01-05-2008, 08:08 PM #24
01-05-2008, 08:42 PM #25Dead in the water
And you're <b>selling</b> a half-baked version of the same app that drunknbass released to massive acclaim right before his announced second version...this reeks of opportunism. If you were releasing it as freeware, maybe we'd be more receptive and less skeptical about your motives . But you cannot expect people to get behind you after the revelations in this thread combined with your demands for payment. Just smells way too fishy.
Good luck...you're definitely going to need it.
Last edited by jwcrash; 01-05-2008 at 08:51 PM.
01-05-2008, 08:49 PM #26
All cleaned up!
01-05-2008, 09:16 PM #27
Well it sounds like everyone is just jumping on the band wagon.
Drunknbass, maybe some proof instead of just accusations?
And even better, release a better version and people will use yours.
01-05-2008, 09:41 PM #28
01-05-2008, 10:15 PM #29
i told lduncan how i got video, which is an unorthedox way to do video, he was "trusted" and was supposed to be on the team contributing information to help futher my application. but instead he took my thoughts and methods and darkens thoughts and methods and chose to put them in his own package, and sell it as his own application.. there are irc logs and proof, he was added to my site 4 weeks ago as a team member,. really what else needs to be said.
its not the fact i didnt write code for him to cut and paste, he was givin private information on a closed source app, and was trusted be be on a team to build the app, and this is not what happened.
saying you own a software company and will release it yourself is a crock of sheit, because i also have a website with software, and im sure alot of people do at apple and other companies.. doesnt give you the right to steal the work of others and take credit.
you should go back and say, "i am starting a software company, and will stab anyone in the back and steal what i need to, to succeed and be prosperous. "
plain and simple.. you are a thief.. dont try and bs anyone about it. its as clear as day light.
Last edited by drunknbass; 01-05-2008 at 10:17 PM.
01-05-2008, 10:15 PM #30
I support drunknbass
01-05-2008, 11:01 PM #31
You know, when you are a member of a team (or a company) and you are privy to inside secrets, you can't just go out and create something based on those secrets. I've beta-tested for lots of software developers way back into old Palm Pilot days and I've had to sign NDAs (Non-Disclosure Agreements) and agreements to not use information gleaned from the beta-testing for up to three years (an eternity in the PDA world).
I am thinking that this stinks to high heaven. No one has come out with video except Drunknbass. No one. Camera Pro sez they'll have it, but it's not out yet. And then this guy comes along and has done it. But he's been part of Drunknbass' team and rec'd a copy of a non-released version of the software?
Phew, that's just wrong.
Bad karma, dude.
Are you innocent? Okay, show me ONE other nicely done and released piece of iPhone software that you've made. Prove me wrong.
OneRing2Rule (supporting my man, Drunknbass, until proved otherwise...)If I've helped you or even just made you laugh, hit Thanks. Every time you do, an iPhone gets jailbroken. FREE THE iPHONES!!!
01-05-2008, 11:08 PM #32
Who cares about this stupid app? I'd rather get the ****** version for drunkenbass for free. This app is lame. And if you want money, BLO* me first!
01-06-2008, 12:04 AM #33
I suport DrunknBassSupport.A.New.JAILBREAK.Program.For.Windows.
01-06-2008, 12:16 AM #34
01-06-2008, 12:26 AM #35
i agree with j arthur this guys just wants money all these other developers when the iphone came out never said pay me they all put in a lot of hard work and sleepless nights to come out with great apps and software and never was it about money theres nothing wrong with asking for donations but this dude sound like a hossa thats a pig that cant fly straight and that aint right
01-06-2008, 12:57 AM #36
it's okay you can stand under my umbrella
01-06-2008, 01:12 AM #37
i couldn't agree more with this:
and also, i greatly disagreed with ronfin in another thread, but i think he really nailed this one on the head:
01-06-2008, 01:58 AM #38
On the other hand, while drunknbass clearly was the first to demonstrate video capture, he:
- never has publicly shown a version that can actually save or replay the video, nor a version with ANY kind of interface.
- the only other project that I've seen of his was complete vaporware. He's been collecting donations for MONTHS for this, and has never shown a single downloadable piece of software to prove it even exists! Check out these links for proof of that:
I don't claim to know the inside story, but I think that everyone jumping to conclusions ought to take a deep breath and look at the actual facts.
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01-06-2008, 02:37 AM #39
I agree with the previous post. This guys app is legit. Some people need to do some research before assuming this app was stolen. And just because drunknbass is well known doesn't mean everything he says is true.
Last edited by jrdan24; 01-06-2008 at 03:05 AM.
01-06-2008, 02:48 AM #40
#1 lduncan was added to my "team" over 4 weeks ago.
#2 you can see his comment about not having my IM and him talking about working on the app, http://www.monsterandfriends.com/?q=node/50&page=4
#3 i have countless irc logs but if i pasted them you really have no reason to believe these logs are legit, eventho the logs were saved by another user and emailed to me.
its just ****** to get stabbed in the back for something so petty, if youre starting a softwre company, i dont think making enemies, stealing other peoples work, and going about business in this way would make people want to hire you... but maybe im living in topsy turvy world and morals and ethics dont mean squat.