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    Default Android Executive Claims Certain Features were created by Google, Not Apple


    Samsung recently brought up VP of Android Engineering, Hiroshi Lockheimer, as its first witness in the second California Apple vs. Samsung patent trial in a bid to prove the Korean company’s devices did not copy Apple’s. The main argument: Google invented certain features before Apple patented them. Similar to how Apple’s Human Interface chief, Greg Christie, explained iOS to the Apple vs. Samsung jury last week, Lockheimer did the same for Google’s Android.

    Lockheimer spent a good portion of his time detailing the differences between Android and iOS, especially focusing on the early days of the project. He noted that the team of engineers working on the project made a concerted effort to make Android a discrete operating system. He mentioned the following regarding the matter:

    We liked to have our own identity, we liked to have our own ideas. We were very passionate about what we were doing, and it was important that we have our own ideas.
    According to in-court reports from The Verge, Lockheimer said his first brush with Android was in January 2006, when founder Andy Rubin asked him to view a demo of the operating system. At the time, Lockheimer was working for a digital security firm, Good Technology, but promptly left for Google after being “blown away” by Android.

    In the beginning, the team consisted of 20 to 30 people, a number that grew to 70 people by the time the first Android phone debuted in 2008. Lockheimer said the following regarding the matter:

    People tend to thing of Google as a big company, but we were a small team. We were autonomous, and the company let us do our own thing.
    From there, the group ballooned to hundreds of people. Currently, Lockheimer said between 600 and 700 people answer to him for various software tasks. The testimony was designed to prove some phone features Apple is suing Samsung over were already a part of the Android operating system used in certain devices, like the Galaxy Nexus. Furthermore, specific features, except “slide-to-unlock,” were invented by Google before being patented by Apple.

    Apple rested its case on Friday, which asserts five patents against a number of Samsung products. The company is seeking $2.191 billion in damages associated with royalties and lost profits. The South Korean tech giant is set to continue its case on Monday when the court reconvenes. Attorneys for the company said as many as 17 witnesses may be trotted out by the end of Monday, most through deposition, though presiding Judge Lucy Koh wants the number pared down.

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    I'm really sick of this lawsuit crap. ERMEHGERD, THEY TOOK MY SLIDE TO UNLOCK T_T_T_T_T_T. Patents stifle innovation and screw everyone else over. I'm really starting to think it should just be whoever can get it to market first and make it work. If you're sitting on a patent and never do anything with it, all you're doing is stopping people from using it. Or stopping people from using simple stuff like Apple and Samsung are trying to sue over. And moreover, I'm confused why the hell Samsung is the one involved in this. They didn't make Android. Why isn't it Google that's being fought against?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quade321 View Post
    And moreover, I'm confused why the hell Samsung is the one involved in this. They didn't make Android. Why isn't it Google that's being fought against?
    Because Apple is that wannabe bully who picks on the smaller kid because the BIG kid would clean their clock!!

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    ^^^^^

    This is well said, patents should only be valid after the invention/idea oils actually used

    Amen

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    Yeah, "certain" aspects weren't copied. As in a few of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quade321 View Post
    Patents stifle innovation and screw everyone else over.
    I hear this quite regular and question it. The fact that you can't copy something easily might surely force you to find another method to achieve that goal, no?
    Increasing innovation....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quade321 View Post
    Patents stifle innovation and screw everyone else over. I'm really starting to think it should just be whoever can get it to market first and make it work. If you're sitting on a patent and never do anything with it, all you're doing is stopping people from using it. Or stopping people from using simple stuff like Apple and Samsung are trying to sue over. And moreover, I'm confused why the hell Samsung is the one involved in this. They didn't make Android. Why isn't it Google that's being fought against?
    Patents were designed to increase innovation by granting a temporary monopoly on an idea to an individual or company so that they wouldn't try to keep the idea a secret forever. The information is made public when a patent is filed, and that information becomes usable to everyone else for commercial purposes after the patent expires. The problems are that patents can be granted for things that are not even hard to figure out, people file them without ever using them, and people are allowed to keep the patents for too long.
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    They stole some ones ideas for their own gain and they got caught time to pay up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambi_Valence View Post
    I hear this quite regular and question it. The fact that you can't copy something easily might surely force you to find another method to achieve that goal, no?
    Increasing innovation....
    I so agree with you dude. necessity is the mother of invention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lohand View Post
    Because Apple is that wannabe bully who picks on the smaller kid because the BIG kid would clean their clock!!
    Wrong, it's because Google doesn't directly generate profit from Android, so even if Apple sues Google on Android and win, it won't get the compensation it is looking for. It has to target a company earned a lot of money out of Android to reach meaningful results.

    In addition, some of these UI designs/features were not included in the stock Android, but picked up by Samsung into its own UI.

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