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Originally Posted by amoamare Your wrong, you own the phone after 6 months in the subsidized contract agreement. This is why the agreement explictly states that if you cancel after...
10-19-2013, 04:46 PM #21Here to help if I can. If I can't I know someone who can!
10-19-2013, 04:50 PM #22
They don't have to unlock it, nothing is forcing them to unlock it and yes they will as long as you are good standing. I have unlocked multiple phones through my carrier even when not going 6 months after buying the phone. You can also pay the ETF and have it unlocked as well. The ETF is not for the difference for the phone. The ETF is for terminating your contract, if you buy a phone and cancel in the 2nd month you are supposed to pay the ETF and return the phone, if it's after 6 months you just pay the ETF.
I do agree with you on that though, people jump to think they own the phone if they pay a subsidized pricing when that is not true, you are leasing the phone until you pay in full.
Also this goes hand in hand, carriers are looking to line their pocket's. Customer service is a perk they hold because they do rely on your money obvously but thats besides the point. The carriers rely on people not contesting or being capable, smart enough to know the difference and clearly that is wrong as well.
Last edited by amoamare; 10-19-2013 at 04:55 PM.
10-19-2013, 05:06 PM #23
This is going to get thrown out really quickly. I think I remember a similar case not to long ago that got thrown out because there was "no physical or financial damage." Correct me if I'm wrong
10-19-2013, 05:58 PM #24
10-19-2013, 06:39 PM #25I have unlocked multiple phones through my carrier even when not going 6 months after buying the phone.You can also pay the ETF and have it unlocked as well. The ETF is not for the difference for the phone. The ETF is for terminating your contract, if you buy a phone and cancel in the 2nd month you are supposed to pay the ETF and return the phone, if it's after 6 months you just pay the ETF.
But let's not miss the large picture - it's always missed on these forums when this topic is discussed. BURNING AN UPGRADE (as it's called here) and reselling the new in contract phone on eBay, for the unsubsidized prices, EVEN IF you make a proper description is UNethical - in a BIG WAY.. Because it forces your Buyer to get it unlocked ILLEGALLY from an ILLEGAL unlocker. You are party to a crime. A nearly unenforceable law - but aiding criminal activity. I don't want any parts of it. But 'commerce', greed and the moral relativism of today's youth will always believe "if it feels okay - do it"..
Also this goes hand in hand, carriers are looking to line their pocket's.
My last post on the topic. If people who sell in-contract phones for a profit on eBay can sleep well at night -- great... But it speaks to their poor character in my book. And the REAL shame is - they don't even understand how it's unethical. What's happened to this world, people....Here to help if I can. If I can't I know someone who can!
10-19-2013, 09:42 PM #26
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10-19-2013, 09:59 PM #27
10-19-2013, 10:26 PM #28
Here's a Solution...DON'T UP DATE..LOL..Geez iPhones are SO SIMPLE to use, that you don't have to update if you choose not to. It's not automatic..lol why do people think that it's automatic?..it's Too funny & this guy's Lawsuit is a Joke, & it just goes to show you that some people have WAY!!!!!!!..to much time on their hands..lol
10-19-2013, 10:38 PM #29
because as soon as you connect to power and WiFi it automatically downloads, taking 3GB of space on your iDevice, which you can't get back unless you install iOS 7, which is unacceptable
10-19-2013, 11:21 PM #30
10-20-2013, 06:26 AM #31
Seriously, this is actually a big deal. This update is taking up about 1/8 of the total space on the phone. That is a big portion, for something that the guy wasn't planning on using anyway. I never knew this was a "feature" and from now on I will update as soon as possible to avoid wasting space. On the other hand, I'm not sure that this is true, because my phone definitely did not have enough space to download iOS 7 before I actually installed it. In addition, it took quite some time for the update to download when I finally got around to deleting stuff so I can't personally back up his claim.
10-20-2013, 08:13 AM #32
10-20-2013, 08:12 PM #33
I agree with the guy who sued. I hate this also. I do not like iOS 7, and to be honest, it really isn't even iOS anymore. Its becoming Android, too much like it, because Apple wants to be like them, because they see the success they're having. The only reason I can avoid this is because evasi0n disables the OTA daemons, and therefore doesn't check for, or download the new updates...
10-20-2013, 08:39 PM #34
10-20-2013, 08:50 PM #35
10-20-2013, 10:05 PM #36
How to disable automatic app updates on iOS 7 | How To - CNET
If you won't click the link, at least read the link.
This lawsuit is retarded, frivolous and an insult to our justice system.
[EDIT]: Never mind. I see this is a complaint regarding the automatic DOWNLOADING of new firmware updates. Either way, suing over this isn't the way to go—it isn't forcing you to install the actual software; it only downloads it. If it were forcing an install AND he lost some money because, perhaps, his business uses iPhones as work phones and one of the updates cost him some money, he would have a case. But he's not. He doesn't have a case.
This has existed since iOS 6.
Last edited by Christophxr; 10-20-2013 at 10:12 PM.
10-20-2013, 10:13 PM #37
lol, thats only when your on iOS 7, you cant do it on iOS 6 which is what this is about
Edit: Apple forces you to download iOS 7, which takes up space on YOUR iDevice, you choose to or not to install it, if you install it you get your space back if you choose not to install your down 3GB of storage space, you have to be connected to WiFi and 'Power' (not sure about the power part)
Edit 2:Originally Posted by Christophxr
10-21-2013, 07:02 AM #38
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10-21-2013, 08:50 AM #40
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