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Originally Posted by mastaryan Curious what the ram is. I love my iPad but wish I could use some programs on the go instead of my work pc. I never...
11-29-2012, 10:13 PM #21
And why does everyone complain about the internal storage. This has ports people!! Just add in an sd card for cheap :-)
I'm nearly sold on this as a full replacement for my work laptop that I carry between clients and will double as an at home tablet :-)
11-29-2012, 10:45 PM #22
@thazsar & @HannibalK1ng They wont understand until Apple actually does make an ipad with OSX on it or an Air with a detachable keyboard and a touchscreen
and even then they will be perfectly content when apple claims they invented the form factor and how revolutionary/magical the idea is LOL
11-29-2012, 11:01 PM #23
What is with all the love for the keyboard? Is there something this keyboard can do that my Bluetooth keyboards can't? There are many Bluetooth keyboards that are also cases that hold a tablet so they are connected. This is nothing new to me. I would love to have a surface pro to run all of my windows applications, but at 3.5 hours of battery it is completely useless to me. Hopefully that is a harsh stress test...
11-29-2012, 11:06 PM #24
Seems like the supporters of the tablet at this pricing plan have lost sight of the fact that its not that great of a tablet. Also, this thing runs a specially skinned version of windows 8, not windows 8 full. Lets not forget how horrific windows mobile software has been historically... In essence, this is an iPad, priced 50 bucks higher, with an inferior operating system and a limited-functionality Dev circle. In no way does this device come close to competing with the iPad, unfortunately.
This is probably why Microsoft has less than 4% hardware or software market share in the smart phone industry...
11-29-2012, 11:45 PM #25
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11-30-2012, 12:05 AM #28
People talk about portability. Don't think that people realize you can get a MacBook Air that is only 1 inch wider and deeper than the surface.
Also is only .3 inches thicker and weighs less than 1lbs more than the surface and has the exact same resolution For 1099.00. This is also for 128 flash storage. 4 gig ram and an i5 processor
Ok so it doesn't have a touch screen. Guess what everyone. Windows and osx apps are built for a mouse not a finger. It will be much more difficult to use a full blown OS with your finger than a mouse.
Also I would like to see someone sit on a couch or something and be able to use the surface with its kickstand and keyboard on your lap. To me the design is only built for a flat surface.
Also not to mention only one view angle.
Sure you can take off the keyboard and use as a tablet so I guess that is what this has going for it
In my opinion for 1099 plus 330 you can get an air and an iPad mini and have the best of both worlds. Also a huge plus for iOS users is I can answer FaceTime and iMessages on any apple iOS devices or osx mountain lion device. As well as view all my photostream instantly.
Just my thoughts though. Sorry for any bad grammar. I'm just dumb haha
11-30-2012, 12:07 AM #29
11-30-2012, 12:09 AM #30
What legacy windows applications do you need that are capable of running on this? As cool as it sounds, Windows RT, iOS, and Android have apps that complete most tasks, and more efficiently with the included battery.
My fear is that any legacy app that I need to run will outstrip the performance of the surface pro, or will kill the battery so fast it will make the device useless.
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11-30-2012, 12:18 AM #31
For work however I have no choice and must use Windows. The vast majority of the software I use simply is not made for OSX, and never will be. The Surface Pro could potentially give me the benefits of an iPad and the flexibility of a full OS. It would allow me to do quick jobs, in cramped conditions, without have to find space to set up a laptop. It may be a niche market but there are many industries in similar situations. Assuming the Surface Pro isn't a hunk of junk then Microsoft will clean up in this kind of area.
11-30-2012, 12:52 AM #32
Too many people comparing apples and oranges.
Just my two cents...
My belief on why the iPad succeeded so well is because iOS is lite; unless Microsoft have created a miracle, running a heavy operating system designed for both powerful desktops and low-end laptops/tablets isn't going to work! I have Windows 8 on my desktop with a 6-core Xeon X5680, 2 GTX 480s and an SSD and although it runs fast in most cases, it still jitters now and again and crawls a little whereas my iPad runs flawlessy even though it's loaded with apps (including Cydia apps).
If Microsoft have managed to sync the OS perfectly with the device only then I'd say it should be worth that much but without evidence of that or a great number of developers building the app store then really this is just your typical dog vs cat debate.
11-30-2012, 02:27 AM #33
So really anywhere you have space for the surface you have space for a laptop. I would argue that with the way the kickstand works and the keyboard you actually may need slightly larger area for the surface
Think about on an airplane. Your surface scoots back a few inches and the kickstand pushes in and your tablet falls over. Sitting in the terminal. I'd like to see someone use the surface on there lap with the keyboard and do heavy typing.
Not saying the device is useless but like the guy above me said. The iPad is popular because its lite. It does what daily productivity tasks need to be done in an efficient way
11-30-2012, 02:37 AM #34
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11-30-2012, 07:31 AM #36
For some people the Surface Pro will be great, they won't mind the pricing because that's what they want. I think the SP has a lot of potential. I'm still waiting for the next iPad which I hope gets a nice upgrade.
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11-30-2012, 09:30 AM #38
Since this is an Apple Site, how bout this:
Who would like to have an iPad that could run iOS & OSX? It can either dual-boot or have a dedicated window (like Windows 8). This would satisfy both type of users.
If you're a MacBook user, then get a case w/ a keyboard. If you're a tablet user, then u can do w/out a keyboard.
This idea would make everyone happy! ;-)
11-30-2012, 11:01 AM #39
11-30-2012, 11:21 AM #40
If you 'occasionally' use OSX on a touch screen then it won't be that big a deal. But if you need to do more complex tasks in OSX, then you'll need a keyboard and a trackpad, magic mouse, etc. or a keyboard that has a trackpad built into it. The OSX side would allow us to download any type of software and even run a Virtual computer for Windows, Ubuntu, etc., etc.
This way, we have the 'tablet side' when we need it or the 'laptop side' when we need that!!!