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10-30-2012, 02:11 PM #1
Microsoft: Apple is a "Low-Volume" Player
As Steve Ballmer revealed that Microsoft sold 4 million upgrades of its new Windows 8 operating system in its first four days, he continued onward to dismiss Apple as a “low-volume” player in markets like PCs and smartphones. In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, when asked if he would like Microsoft to evolve to Apple’s business model, where the company controls both the hardware and software, Ballmer said he prefers to stay with Microsoft’s business model. He did concede that their model was “evolving” with devices like the new Surface tablet though.
According to Ballmer, “in every category Apple competes, it’s the low volume player, except in tablets. In the PC Market, obviously the advantage of diversity has mattered since 90-something percent of PCs that get sold are Windows PCs. We’ll see what winds up mattering in tablets.”
In the United States, Apple’s iPhone accounts for about a third of all smartphones in use, while Google’s Android platform is on more than 50% of handsets. Microsoft’s mobile platform only accounted for 3.6% of smartphone subscribers according to comScore’s September report. As for the Mac, Apple has seen its share in the PC market increase continuously as it has repeatedly outgrown the PC market. The latest data issued earlier in the month gave Apple nearly 14% of the U.S. PC market.
Microsoft is probably hoping to counter some of the success Apple’s Mac platform has had with its new Windows 8 operating system, which was released last week. Ballmer recently revealed at Microsoft’s Build event on Tuesday that sales of Windows 8 upgrades reached a whopping 4 million in the first four days.
As far as the iPad goes, even Ballmer had no choice but to admit that Apple carries the lion’s share of the tablet market. The latest figures reveal that the iPad accounts for more than 60% of all tablets sold worldwide – a number that is likely to increase with the upcoming release of the iPad mini.
Source: The Wall Street Journal
10-30-2012, 02:32 PM #2
With upgrades as low as $14.99 who would buy the upgrade?
Bought my W7 Pro at around $40 USD when it came out and so Im trying to buy the W8 Pro for $14.99 next week, buying it doesnt mean Im going to use it since I've been on OSX for many years.
And calling it "low-volume"? This bald man need some straight stadistics that arent coming from Microsoft itself.
10-30-2012, 02:34 PM #3
Here we go again???? Comparing Apples to oranges lol pun intended! ;-) can't compare Windows to OSX! Have 10-15 manufactures making 10-15 model each all running windows and 1 making the computers and the OS to run on it.
10-30-2012, 02:40 PM #4
In the PC market the headline is correct but smartphones? How can Ballmer say that with a straight face when apple has 10x mircosofts phone market share (in the US)? How can the audience listen to this without bursting out laughing, then going "oh wait, your being serious, let us laugh harder!" (Borrowed from futurama). Also if apples PC market share has outgrown the market (as the article states) then surely more consumers are switching from windows to mac than the other way round. But we, like Ballmer,will ignore this.
I don't agree with the way apple (sometimes) treats its customers but I will admit that it is immensely successful and a brand that people desire and even aspire towards, even though they have to pay more for hardware compared to windows. But windows is more of something your "born into" (not only business users but personal ones as well) i.e "I've always used a windows pc, so I'll just stick to that next time I need to upgrade my hardware." There isn't that "fashion accessory" aspect to it, even though Microsoft is desperately trying to generate that with its surface tablets.
10-30-2012, 02:44 PM #5
You know, I like Apple and Microsoft but I CAN NOT STAND that man. Just the look of him makes me want to bash his head in. Is that wrong?MacBook Pro i7
10-30-2012, 03:07 PM #6
Seriously though, I haven't like this guy since I read a story (many years ago) that he was walking through a communal area at MS, when he noticed 1 of his employees with an iPhone, Ballmer playful snatched it out of their hand, placed it on the ground and symbolically stepped on it (without causing damage) all other employees who witnessed this either started applauding or laughing (I forget which it was). Perhaps this is where the idea for the "surface skateboard" came from😏.
Many years down the line and not only has apple crushed MS under it's soles (in terms of smartphones) but it has wiped them off and flushed the paper towel down the toilet.
10-30-2012, 03:09 PM #7
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10-30-2012, 03:20 PM #8
Didnt it use to cost like 300 bucks to upgrade windows?
Now its like 50.
What a dumb comment he made.. almost like how he said apple would never sell iphones
10-30-2012, 03:26 PM #9
This man cares about the DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS and that's all that matters!!!!
10-30-2012, 03:48 PM #10
This guy is on drugs or something...OMG. It's not even worthy of further comments....
10-30-2012, 04:04 PM #11
Apple nearly owns 14% of the US market share for PC's, BMW owns about the same in their respected market. So what's your point?
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10-30-2012, 04:13 PM #12
What are you smokin?
WIN 8= operating system
Just because windows are on hp,dell,sony, etc
does not change the fact that both are OS's. and microsoft is wiping the floor with apple in that dept.
At the rate apple is taking market share in the world of computers ,in about 20 yrs they maybe be at around 26%...maybe
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10-30-2012, 11:52 PM #20
Facts are facts:
OSX is low-volume compared to Windows. It also costs 2-4 times as much for OSX. You pay for what you get....
In 3-5 yrs, OSX and its complimentary hardware will be running like a champ. Hardware w/ Windows will be obsolete and at the end of its life.
I used to go the cheaper, Windows route till I got tired of wasting my money and my time on computers that I knew were gonna suck in a few years.