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09-08-2012, 02:36 AM #1
Samsung Claims Their Multitouch Software is Sub Par to Avoid Dutch Galaxy Ban
In what seems to be a rather bizarre event, Samsung recently told the court in Netherlands that their multitouch software is terrible in comparison to that of Apple’s. This was done in a desperate attempt to avoid having their products banned from the Netherlands, a move that would definitely hurt the South Korean electronics manufacturer.
Apple in the Court of the Hague said that Samsung should be banned from selling Galaxy devices in the Netherlands because the South Korean electronics company has infringed on their “touch event model” patent. This particular patent describes technology that prevents smartphone users from making erroneous touches at the same time. Samsung lawyer, Bas Berghuis van Woortman argued “while Apple’s technology is a “very nice invention,” the technique used in Android differs from the iOS solution. Because the Android based method is more hierarchical the system is more complex and therefore harder for developers to use.”
In order for Apple to win the case, the Cupertino California company argued that Samsung’s touch event model is totally almost as good as theirs, with Apple lawyer, Theo Blomme telling the judge the following:
They suggest that they have a lesser solution, but that is simply not true. The technique used in Android does solve a multiple input “conflict situation” and in that way the Android software essentially does the same as Apple’s.
Source: PC World
09-08-2012, 04:00 AM #2
09-08-2012, 04:09 AM #3
Samsung just HIT their heads with their own BIG MALLET!!! What a stupid move...
09-08-2012, 05:23 AM #4
So what, now nobody else can ever use any multi-touch solution?
I don't see how sme of the things Apple is claiming were unlawfully copied don't fall under the FRAND (sp) licensing requirements.
In the end it just seems like a win for Apple is a loss for consumers because e it stifles competition...
09-08-2012, 06:53 AM #5
"Samsung recently told the court in Netherlands that their multitouch software is terrible in comparison to that of Apple’s. This was done in a desperate attempt to avoid having their products banned from the Netherlands"
Tough s _ _ _!
09-08-2012, 07:19 AM #6
I do love my iphone, but apple fans *mod edit: language edit* make me sick, you guys are just... now words for it.
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09-08-2012, 07:35 AM #7
09-08-2012, 07:36 AM #8
09-08-2012, 08:18 AM #9
What if HTC & Microsoft wer so predatory about "Touchscreen phones"? Capaticance (sp?) vs resittance wouldn't matter because Apple couldn't have a touchscreen phone period.
For the consumers' sake multi-touch should be covered by FRAND as it's just reasonable evolution of the devices.
Last edited by kyphur; 09-08-2012 at 08:20 AM.
09-08-2012, 09:08 AM #10
also people will think this is just apple supressing samsungs capabilities but this has just proven that samsung wants nothing more than to copy others technologies and use different hardware, instead of innovating and creating their own technology with their hardware. "Someone who simply follows in the footsteps wont ever make a mark." -some internet quote i remember
09-08-2012, 09:36 AM #11
BTW, tons of those readily available iPhone cases are both over-priced and cheaply manufactured.
Guess what I can easily find for any Android & Windows Mobile phone: spare and/or extended batteries!
Guess what I can do on a stock Android devices evice that I can't do on a stock iDevice: install whatever software I want including themes!
Guess what Android & Windows Mobile had from the start: yep copy/paste & WiFi Sync!
Compare phones to cars, there are certian developments that are simply going to happen as the technology develops (power windows/locks on cars, multi-touch on phones). Apple should focus on making thier UI better than the competition instead of trying to block the competition.
09-08-2012, 09:42 AM #12
09-08-2012, 09:43 AM #13
Stop saying forcing to innovate. No one innovates anymore. It comes down to user experience, period. I personally can't see how anyone can own a Samsung device that uses Touchwiz, because quite frankly it's trash. If you just got the raw Android AOSP experience, it's every bit as good as anything Apple has.
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09-08-2012, 10:16 AM #14
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09-08-2012, 10:53 AM #15
Oh because android cases are so good! They aren't made by the EXACT same manufacturers and same materials. OVERPRICED? Have you ever bought a case I can buy 10 useful ones for 20 bucks.
iPhone's dont need spare batteries because you can literally charge one ANYWHERE because someone always has an iPhone charger! It's a universal phone. Apple could own more of the market if they were like Samsung and Motorola and made phones for every price every customer. Apple only makes one device and owns 30%+ of the market Motorola and Samsung make 100+ and own 50%+ apple makes way more profit because it is a universal phone.
Oh yeah and you can install viruses. There are ways to et viruses on iPhones however you either need to jailbreak or download those 1 in every 100,000 apps that somehow managed to hide a virus.
Guess what copy and paste isn't patented buddy. Apple patented their designs their technology they even license patents from other tech resources. Motorola and Samsung had that opportunity but they thought they could get away. At least Microsoft had the common sense to license its not like patents are a new things and lawsuits are new.
Get off this forum like why the hell are you on it seriously?
09-08-2012, 11:02 AM #16
From a person that has an sIII as my main phone, an ip4 as my backup, and a blackberry 9900 as my work phone.
Android sucks. stock vs stock, because this is the only way to evenly compare devices and 90% of users will never root or JB their phone. IOS is much smoother, crashes less, apps costs less, i can go on.
Are there things that i like about android? absolutely, not enough to tell anyone that I like it more than IOS.
battery management on the SIII has improved a lot, other android phones, not so much. I have friends with SII's and other divices that walk around with battery back ups, and their devices are rooted!!! I never have issues with my ip4, although my siii comes closed, my BB just sucks with battery life.
reason apple doesnt let you install any kind of app on their phone is due to stability and contractual purposes. IE i cant install PDAnet on either stock phone.
again unless you are comparing these phones on a daily basis using them in real world situations like the other 90% of consumers who buy them, its just heresy and opinion.
09-08-2012, 11:21 AM #17
2) Secondly, this is a place for discussion, usually relating to Apple products, but that doesn't mean it's limited to pro-apple speech.
3) Lastly, If you don't like seeing other people's opinions for something, then why the hell are you reading a discussion board (or comment stream if you're in the blog view) ? That's the whole point of web forums. Just because YOU do not like something does not mean it just should suddenly be censored for all.
09-08-2012, 11:22 AM #18
I have ever seen a $2 case that's worth eve 2 cents, I buy cases like OtterBox DeFender and LifeProof, my devices (of all makes) are well protected and still in like new condition when I finally sell them off.
The variety of Android devices isn't a Samsung issue, there are other manufacturers of Android devices Samsung is just the largest.
The issues with Android are not that it can't be simple and user friendly it's simply a matter of maturity. Apple's iOS was once immature (no cut & paste, no support for MMS, still no Java support) no OS is perfect. Android is catching up to iOS and in fact pushing iOS to be better (as evidenced by the new notification center). iOS takes from Android and Android takes from iOS, that's how it should be.
Me, I'm a registered iOS developer. I own the following Apple devices: iPhone3G, iPhone3Gs, iPhone4, iPhone4s, iPad2WiFi, MacBookPro.
What I'm not is a blind Fanboy. I don't worship Steve Jobs like he invented the universe.
I will be getting an Android Tablet and Phone so I can also develop for Android.
I run Windows 7 on my MacBookPro along with Snow Leopard and also develop software for the WIndows Platform.
I'm the kind of user these forums really need but are afraid to embrace.
I don't vilify any platform, as a developer I understand that technology doesn't develop in a vacuum but thrives in a competitive market.
BTW, your whole post would be more meaningful if your opening statement was along the lines of "My opinion is iOS is better than Android OS based on my personal experience." I actually found the rest of your post to be rather well written and balanced but the first line just comes off as "Oh man here comes another Apple FanBoy".
Last edited by kyphur; 09-08-2012 at 11:28 AM.
09-08-2012, 11:39 AM #19
09-08-2012, 11:44 AM #20
When did this site turn from being a forum about tweaking and modding a cool device to one where many of it's users think it's only for a Pro-Apple / Screw-Anything-Else "discussions"?
This website used to be such a nice place, back when we were all jailbreaking iPhones using tricky convoluted methods
Now, this website seems to just spawn hate and angry fanboys. The Staff Writers aren't helping the situation either, as many "articles" are posted purely to fuel this hate or "articles" are written that are misleading, false, or written with the tone of a disgruntled pre-pubescent fanboy. If you post something about Samsung you're told to get off this site. Yet almost every day there's a new Staff "Article" about Samsung on this site. "Oh but it relates to Apple" - true, but so do countless other things that dont get front page space here. It's always the negative stories about Samsung. Why not post a story about how successful the Galaxy S III has been? Nah, that won't get clicks and tons of hateful comments.
I want this site to become what it used to be again.
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