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08-31-2012, 04:35 PM #21
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08-31-2012, 05:17 PM #23
This is how it went:
Japan: Samsung won because everyone in the court was using a Samsung device.
USA: Samsung lost because everyone in the court was using a Samsung device.
Sorry couldn't resist...
08-31-2012, 05:39 PM #24
Same lawsuit was heard in South Korea, and the courts said both company copied each other.
Unlike biased U.S. jury, was not determined by judge so I will not call it a courts and jury can be biased, threw out the counter-suit filed by Samsung.
As for favoritism it is possible when you see how much revenue was generated by Apple for the city and county and who here would know where Cupertino is if they do not own Apple product? The jury for the trial is local citizens which would favor Apple because of this as well. People would want to be on this jury because they can get famous for hearing such a high profile case, not hard to pretend they have no preconceived notion of any kind. So they can move the case to somewhere they would not be familiar with Apple or Samsung product maybe Amish country?
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08-31-2012, 08:50 PM #25
Two points re the above: I was responding to a question regarding court cases having "home court" advantage. I merely addressed criminal court proceedings being moved to illustrate a single part of that discussion. As to the idea that holding a trial where a manufacturer is located is probably not going to be an issue (though I agree that there is a possibility that a severely nationalistic country might give preference to a "home grown" product). Apple (although not a country) may have felt that it would get a more balanced jury pool, tech-wise ("[t]he leading industries in Cupertino, California are Manufacturing, 32%; Professional, scientific, management, administrative, and waste management services, 19%; and Educational, health and social services, 12%";
Education levels in Cupertino
Less than 9th grade 2%
9th to 12th grade, no diploma 3%
High school graduate 9%
Some college, no degree 14%
Associate's degree 7%
Bachelor's degree 32%
Graduate degree 33%).
However, Silicon Valley is the home for many, many manufactures. Oracle and HP are also players in the area (although Apple has the most employees), so to state that the jury pool is tilted towards Apple is specious at best. Cupertino is not an Apple company town. And the people who live there are highly-educated (65% have college degrees) and should be able to sit on a jury in a patent-infringement case and decide it on its merits.
"People would want to be on this jury because they can get famous for hearing such a high profile case" I don't understand. No juror is getting famous from this case. I don't see how anyone would profit from being on this jury. There is no vast conspiracy of Illuminati that this flows from.
"So they can move the case to somewhere they would not be familiar with Apple or Samsung product maybe Amish country?" I suspect that Apple WANTED an educated jury pool familiar with the concepts to be covered. Remember that the judge commented that the case might be too complex for most jurors, yet they seemed quite able to come to a finding. Trying the case in "Amish country" would be a lot more problematic if the attorneys had to instruct the jurors as to what software was (for you Amish out there, small joke.).
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08-31-2012, 09:31 PM #27
I'm only a bit of an Apple fan and kind of an otaku.
But I think Apple shouldn't have sued anyone in the first place. They can be a little positive and think about it as adventising.
Apple (in general) seem to have low self esteem. They're a great company, why won't they realize it.
Apple influenced the mobile industry. They should be proud. It's hard to think of Apple, or Samsung, as and "bad guy" though.
Little companies look up to big companies.
I hate it when my ideas were stolen, but every "idea" is different. If someone stole an idea think of a new one. (motto "Think different") Sorry...Nintendo fan typing.
Also if you guys don't want Apple to keep suing companies, remember ANGER DOES NOT SOLVE EVERYTHING.
I will never becom a business person, thanks to my naive way of thinking. *preparing for rants*
09-01-2012, 05:32 AM #28
Apple has become the monster that they stared in the abyss back when they were still the underdogs. And Android now is what Apple used to be. They are now the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers. They are now the round pegs in the square holes. And the different phones running on the different OSes with all their little issues and troubles represent the chaotic EXCITING world of Android. The raw, untamed wild. This time, Android phones are the ones thinking differently, and the trouble the pioneering phones are experiencing are the risks they take for blazing into parts unknown. And the best part is it will get better.
Apple? Apple has become safe and complacent. They've become lazy and paranoid and they're nervous about what kind of threat Android can become. I say good for them. Let them push Samsung, the other Android handsets, and pretty soon, they'll push Google and Google will have had enough and push back. Massively.
And it will be GLORIOUS.
09-01-2012, 06:18 AM #29
So this is the world we get when take 'absolutes' out of the equation. :-/
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09-01-2012, 05:21 PM #35
Thank god apple won )
09-06-2012, 12:34 AM #36
LOL, what will happen next?