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06-25-2012, 12:54 PM #1
Are Apple's Retail Store Employees Grossly Underpaid?
A provocative new report poses an interesting and somewhat controversial question regarding Apple - owner and operator of the world's most lucrative retail real estate. Does the Cupertino, California-based iDevice and Mac maker underpay its army of retail staffers?
Despite awards and accolades over the years hailing Apple as one of the best companies to work for (both in corporate offices and retail stores), The New York Times published a piece over the weekend that highlighted how much - or, perhaps, I should say how little - Apple pays its employees.
About 30,000 of the 43,000 Apple employees in this country work in Apple Stores, as members of the service economy, and many of them earn about $25,000 a year.
"Apple is not selling polo shirts or yoga paints," the article reads. "Divide revenue by total number of employees and you find that last year, each Apple store employee — that includes non-sales staff like technicians and people stocking shelves — brought in $473,000."
In the big picture, Apple's retail stores remain a much better than average place to work, even in the retail sector. Not only does Apple pay well-above minimum wage, Apple offers exceptional benefits, 401(k) contributions, company stock options, and a killer employee discount purchase program.
As MMi reported last week, innumerable employees were recently rewarded with raises totaling upwards of 30% more than the previous salaries. Hourly wage bumps, however, were rumored to be closely tied to store performance and the performance of individuals within stores.
Source: New York Times
06-25-2012, 01:25 PM #2
They are glorified help desk people. Corporate help desk employees usually make $20-30,000 per year depending on where they live.
06-25-2012, 01:31 PM #3
06-25-2012, 01:40 PM #4
06-25-2012, 02:02 PM #5
It's retail! That's all! Sure you get great experiences and new friends, but at the end of the day your still working in retail. With stock options, Apple training, discounts on pricey hardware, and some all expenses paid trips to represent Apple, I'd say they have a pretty decent job! Which is why most of them said that they enjoy what they do and don't care how much they bring Apple in each year. Everyone wants more money at their job
06-25-2012, 02:08 PM #6
Couldnt agree with you more Lol $37 Trillion. The government is totally operating at a profit....? No wait at least they are balanced? No but at least they are not in a deficit....NVM at least they are efficient....the government will not be these 4 things anytime soon. Therefore your comparison of a PUBLIC sector to PRIVATE sector kinda sucked. I'm sorry. I disagree with your comparison, BUT I think that Apple does NOT underpay their employees. Apple employees make enough, if they didn't believe so they'd move to a different job. This is the idea of employment at will. Both parties are NOT obligated to each other unless otherwise stated
06-25-2012, 02:22 PM #7
06-25-2012, 02:55 PM #8
If they don't like it, they can find another job. They picked where they applied to.
06-25-2012, 02:57 PM #9
Walmart revenue per employee:
Average wage per employee:
$13,560 per year
Revenue to pay ratio:
Apple after 30% wage raise: 14.55
Apple will be on par with retail stores after the wage raise. If someone wants to raise hell about how little Apple retail employees are paid, they might as well raise hell about how little retail employees in general are paid.
06-25-2012, 03:11 PM #10
They should be glad they have a job, I mean if you don't need a Bachelors degree nor a Masters degree to work there why in this world would this people get paid more than the average retail employee.
06-25-2012, 03:13 PM #11
You need a masters in order to get paid more than average in retail? That's ridiculous! So your saying I should consider 8-10 years of college and over 100,000 dollars in debt to get a good retail salary? Lmao you'll be broke for life.
Last edited by Bluprint; 06-25-2012 at 03:21 PM.
06-25-2012, 04:40 PM #12
Breaking News: Retail jobs don't pay well and minimum wage is the least paying wage possible and water is actually H20 which is actually very wet unlike we first thought.
My retail experience:
Macy's $8.75 start about $9.75 after a couple years.
Fry's Electronics: $6.75 + commission on sales (slow sales really hurts you)
HP Printer rep = $14 but few hours a week
Staples: started $8.50 ended about $15.00 (including monthly bonus)
First job after college: $25/hr
06-25-2012, 07:00 PM #13
I'm a retail manager of a cafe in NYC and out of my crew only two of then make 12 an hr an they're supervisors. The job market is bad... And retail is retail..
06-25-2012, 07:47 PM #14
If they are unhappy with their salary I'll take their job and they can take my HORRENDOUS commute to a lower paying job working in a warm office. I'd love to stand around looking scruffy, wearing a tshirt and shorts in an air conditioned store making more money. I wouldn't have a commute at all the stores in my area are so close.
06-25-2012, 08:00 PM #15
I wonder how much those China workers getting paid for making our phones compare to these retail store employees.
Every time I walked into an over staffed Apple store, I saw those guys basically standing there doing nothing but chatting.
They helped me with smile on their faces when I walked toward them asking for assistance though. I gave them that.
06-25-2012, 08:27 PM #16
06-25-2012, 09:02 PM #17
Most people hate there jobs, and can't change because they simply can't find another job. Collage is expensive, and most who are graduating today will NOT find work and are stuck with huge dept. Tim cook makes more money than every apple retail employee combined. The 2% have 80% of the money in the country. It's called greed, & this is why the world is in the situation it's in. STOP making stupid excuses for the greed of these company's, apple is filthy rich, they should be paying there employees better. Bottom line.
06-25-2012, 11:34 PM #18
As far as I know, they make a good amount for the kids that they are (in my local store).
Our minimum wage in Quebec is $9.65 and last I was told, they make $15. That's damn good for a high school/early college kid living at home.
Plus the job seems pretty fun.
06-26-2012, 03:57 AM #19
The New York Times has a Liberal agenda. You can bet this all has to do with unions. Unions pay "dues" which are pretty much a way to launder money into campaign contributions for Liberal/ Democrat political candidates.
Unions used to stand for something more, now they're just a political arm of the Democratic/ Socialist party, and they bleed a company of its profits. Apple is one of the most successful companies because they refuse to unionize. Unions are like a giant blood-sucking leech attached to businesses. Of course, there should be standards for safety and comfort in any job, but negotiating how much you get paid is a slippery slope that ultimately destroys a company's ability to expand.
Retail jobs were never meant to sustain a high quality of living. They're for teenagers living at home and students working through college.
06-26-2012, 07:17 AM #20
really. apple isn't obligated to do anything, and these people aren't required to work at apple either, if they don't like what they are getting paid they are free to find a job elsewhere and there are probably a dozen people (apple fans or not) wiling to step up and fill their job.
all these stories about what apple is obligated do now because it's "number one" are just silly. they are suddenly responsible for world peace, feeding the hungry and curing cancer too?