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Thread: Foxconn Cuts Work Hours for Employees Leaving Workers Worried

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicrfe View Post
    Lol, more relaxed them most countries? People work way more then 50hrs a week around the globe. Maybe not in your field (assuming you have a field in witch you work) but in production jobs 50hrs just doesn't cut it.
    Bottem line is if you are not willing to do the job 100hrs a week or more you just aren't willing to do the job.
    Stop pressing your ideal on real workers trying to provide food for there familes.
    His ideals? He's not pressing his ideals. Do you honestly have any idea what your talking about?

    The fact is, this was a media **** storm created for no other reason then simply bashing Apple's practices, which aren't even Apple's practices. Sure, Apple could control the wages, but this is what the Chinese economy and Foxconn dictates - these working conditions. The FLA is simply Apple's PR move of putting themselves out there to protect themselves from what is a harsh reality. Guess what? That reality came true.

    Don't point the finger at the FLA. Don't point the finger at Apple. Don't point the finger at Foxconn. All three of them have done EXACTLY what they were supposed to do.

    Point the finger at the thousands of bureaucrats and media outlets. Point the finger at the thousands of people who post on forums just like this who supposedly know better for the Chinese people, than the Chinese people do. You don't see those people posting here now, do you? Remember something. Millions of iDevices and other electronics come out of Foxconn city. Could you imagine the damage to these companies if those 200,000 something workers (or whatever it may be.) walk out of that factory and leave Apple high and dry even just a few days?

    The media, bureaucrats and thousands of other people got exactly what THEY wanted. The problem is, no one seemed to stop and give a **** about what the Chinese wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyoSaeba View Post
    @unison999: In this case, yes, the FLA is the bad guy. The workers welcome the OT. In China, there's not a lot of places that pays you for OT. They pay OT as time off so you'll never have extra money in your pocket. Just extra days off, when the company allows you of course.

    Now, because of the FLA involvement, these workers will be forced to get paid less and they have no way to make up for that loss! Foxconn will simply hire more people to cover the lost hours without paying OT! It's a win for Foxconn and a loss for the workers. But I guess the FLA didn't thought about that as they thought they were helping the workers.

    Just to add, if you think Foxconn will raise their salary again, forget it. There are other countries that are willing to work for less. When the salary hits a certain point, they'll simply be forced to relocate to another country. Then all te million workers the FLA is trying to help will be jobless! Thanks FLA!

    Again this is not FLA's fault, if working more OT is not allowed by law of the land Foxconn can not make or allow workers work more. If the workers have a problem with that, change the labor laws!!!
    When they were hired they knew what the conditions are and how much they get paid, they accepted. If following the rules of the law set by the country is not good enough, well they need to find another job that pays more preferably within the legal hours.
    Foxconn already have a factory ready in Brazil before all this happened, so don't blame relocation because of this FLA labor violations findings.

    Quote Originally Posted by nicrfe View Post
    Lol, more relaxed them most countries? People work way more then 50hrs a week around the globe. Maybe not in your field (assuming you have a field in witch you work) but in production jobs 50hrs just doesn't cut it.
    Bottem line is if you are not willing to do the job 100hrs a week or more you just aren't willing to do the job.
    Stop pressing your ideal on real workers trying to provide food for there familes.
    I said most not all.
    If you need 50~100 hours more in OT you need to hire another worker.
    They are only following their own labor law, if that is not good enough they can change it.
    This is my personal opinion about your last statement, maybe someone else in the family needs to work if they need to force this 1 person to work 100 hours a week overtime.
    Last edited by unison999; 04-01-2012 at 06:42 PM.

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    @unison999: Again, the FLA is to blame because if they are going to police one factory, they'll need to do them all to have any effect. The factory in Brazil was not meant to replace the ones in China. But if costs becomes too high, it will be replaced. Simple as that.

    Bottom line, the FLA was brought in to help the workers but they'll end up hurting them more. When you realize that you can't force western political correctness on the world, you will understand my point of view.

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