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03-12-2012, 05:08 PM #21
Everyone who has an iPhone 4s or has used siri knows that Apple is misleading its customers. I'm sure you people have seen the commercial that says, "remind me to do this again." Try telling siri that and she will set a reminder... but she doesn't know what you are doing. Apple is definitely making siri seem much better than she really is. All companies are doing it these days though. Don't believe anything without seeing.
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03-12-2012, 06:05 PM #25
Apple Wins UK Advertising Standards Agency Case over Siri
I'm in the UK, and stumbled across this, i'd have thought ios 5.1 would have put some of this straight upon its release last week, but it hasn't i am disappointed about this, and apple are earning enough for development and to work harder on issues like this, i know its massive to sort out in UK - USA is massive and Having spoken to a customer service representative recently, they still cannot give a date when this is likely to be launched in the UK other than its likely this year.
It is misleading and i purchased the 4S because of that functionality, i feel hard done by and may consider an alternative smart phone when my contract is up for re-newal, its things like this that could damage companies, how many others feel the same?
Apple Inc. has won a case in the UK Advertising Standards Agency (ASA), over allegedly misleading Siri advertisements in Britain.
According to a report on Electronista, the complaint was brought about by an unidentified individual who said a Vodafone advertisement for the iPhone 4S (originally posted in October) was deceptive. Upon inquiry, Vodafone directed the ASA to Apple.
The advertisement's text reads:
"Simply ask Siri to help you send messages, set reminders or search for information. It can even use information from your iPhone -- such as your location, contacts and contact relationships -- to provide intelligent, personal assistance."
Apple was accused of providing false information and, principally, failing to point out that the location functions worked only in the US and not the UK.
Unfortunately, the ASA ruled in favour of Apple. The agency said that although Siri was unable to provide directions, traffic updates or suggestions for local businesses in the UK, it did use location data to provide weather forecasts. The agency said their belief was Siri acting as a guide to local businesses was not implicit in the ad and beyond average consumer expectations.
"We considered that some consumers may have had prior knowledge of what Siri was reportedly able to do in the US and, with this knowledge, might read into the ad that Siri users in the UK would benefit from similar maps-based functionality," the ASA states.
"However we did not consider that these consumers represented the average consumer in the UK and, because the ad in itself had not explicitly or implicitly made such claims, we concluded that the ad was not misleading," the ad agency further added.
Meanwhile, Apple has already announced a media event on 7 March, where they are expected to announce the iPad 3 - with Siri. Therefore, expect Siri accompanying an iOS update (to iOS 5.1) for the iPad and, hopefully, this will also be a chance for Apple to revamp Siri functionality for the UK and non-US locations. (it didn't)
03-12-2012, 06:38 PM #26
I for one think that more and more, developers are using "BETA" as an out .. that's great if you're working on freeware, or if you're doing some targeted beta test but that is not what Apple is doing, and it's something Google is guilty of as well even though in their case it's not quite as bad since it's all free web services .. in the case of Siri, they really wanted to use it as a lure to sell a device even though the product wasn't ready..
It's not something Apple normally even does.. I think they'd not have done it if it weren't for Jobs' ailing health and the fact they could use it to force some people's hand in upgrading.. much as they did with MMS capabilities when they said the 1st gen couldn't support it hardware wise .. ( purely not true )
PS.. I am a developer myself..
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03-12-2012, 07:27 PM #27
Holy God!!!!! There's going to be a million Android users filing C.A.S. next week.
03-12-2012, 08:04 PM #28
I think the abbreviation USA should officially be change to USL, the United States of Litigation, LOL. Maybe if it were easier to make those lodging frivolous lawsuits pay the defendant's costs if the case is lost or thrown out, people would think twice before suing at the drop of a hat in the US over such matters. That and the fact too many US law firms are way too willing to take a punt on making big bucks in the process of running such a case and getting a result against a large 'deep pocketed' corporation as to rarely bill the 'plaintiff' anything like real world legal costs.
03-12-2012, 08:11 PM #29
If you notice at the bottom of screen it usually says "sequences shortened" so that could be saying what ever command to siri, her messing it up, you follow by saying NO correcting her then reissuing the command and so on...
03-12-2012, 08:22 PM #30
It would be nice when u tell Siri to send a text and one word is wrong so u have to freakin say everything u just said again u can't just change one word
03-12-2012, 08:23 PM #31
My diet pills didn't make me less of a fatty! The commercials said otherwise! I'm suing for damages to my love life.
03-12-2012, 08:56 PM #32
I'm on the fence about the suit... on one hand the guys clearly looking for a quick buck, on the other he actually might have a case because apples ads clearly don't show the actual user experience of siri.
I didn't purchase an iPhone 4s for personal use specifically because siri was really the only interesting thing apple did in terms of upgrading from the 4.... and I knew that even apple couldn't pull it off voice commands. Siri was touted as the biggest and most life changing feature of the 4s at the keynote. it's a novelty act at best. But it is my job to know about this stuff, and I enjoy reading and learning about whats going on with tech... so I am much more informed than 95% of the people who are buying apple products. Most people see the commercial, hear the hype, and pony up the cash to ride the train.
I also think its funny that people are implying that we shouldn't really take an ad for face value because companies are always going to embellish about how great their product is... that is BS!!!!!! Why should that be the status quo? Why should a company that is going to take in $1billion in 1 day for the launch of a new product even need to over sell? They would rather treat the consumer like a bunch of blithering idiots and risk ending up having to deal with something like this because anything this guy might win or win for the rest of the people in the suit is peanuts compared to what they are pulling down.
Originally Posted by dkanymore
if someone uses this phone for work and that person was led to believe it was going to make it easier to set appointments and do other stuff, why shouldn't that feature work as promised?
If I bought a mercedes and it was advertised as having a feature that was a MAIN selling point and that feature wasn't there or working as promised after paying the full amount for the car wouldn't you expect a refund or something from the company?
The more I think about it the more I am with this guy. It might just be the fact that people are so willing to lie down and get pissed on by a major corporation. Like when Sony took away other OS from the PS3 after advertising it as a major feature, no one really cared. I guess business is easy when you only need to cater to the lowest common denominator!
03-12-2012, 09:08 PM #33
03-12-2012, 09:12 PM #34
Apple says it is in beta, but was it in commercial? No.
It is as he says, in the commercial Siri is advertised as completed product.
He does have merit in his lawsuit.
03-12-2012, 11:24 PM #35
Good lord people. Really? In apple commercial it only shows WHAT Siri is capable to do. I have not seen one thing in a commercial that wasn't true.
In the example of the guitar song Siri will simply do a web search for you. No where in the commercial did it show Siri teaching the kid how to play the guitar.
People are just plain ignorant when it comes to product. A commercial is meant to attract you. This is why car companies tell you a flywheel horsepower rating of ONLY the motor, not taking into account that by the time the power gets delivered to the ground it has lost a substantial amount. Cause what sounds better my car has 305 horse power or 220?
I hope the guy rear ends someone and gets sued up his ***
03-13-2012, 05:30 AM #36
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03-13-2012, 07:26 AM #38
No, I respectfully...or just plain, disagree with you. If it was listed as BETA, they pretty much covered it (unless there was intentional or gross misconduct or irresponsibility).
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