Apple Now the Third Top PC Seller

[Andaz]

iOS owns cause they got apps and games, windows rules cause they have millions of softwares and Games for that matter.

[lkailburn]

K I'm confused. You said PC sales, then you go on to say its partly because iOS is so great...what does iOS have to do with an apple computer, nothing.

Secondly, apple hardware is NOT top of the line, my brother just bought a 17" laptop, forget what the actual name of it is and he said oh hey look I have an i7 now too. I said great do you know which one? He said "no apple site would not tell me specs" so I dug around and it was the slowest, worst benchmarked i7 of nearly all of them. It was ranked well below the i7 I run in my dell laptop that was already A YEAR OLD. Apple went out an found the cheapest i7 they could find just to slap the label on the box so to speak.

-Luke

I say so to speak because Apple would never dare put a label on the box because A) it would clutter up their boxes lol and B) because it would actually provide some useful spec about the product.

[vinaygoel2000]

Dell is 2nd WTF!!! I hope I don't offend anybody but I think their computers suck.

U know u can build ur own computer with dell. So if u bought a dell and were not happy with it, I blame u as u were the one that designed it.

I just hate how dell is even on this list does anyone even buy dell anymore?

Dell is like the worst pc vendor ever, they are still in business because of schools buying there crap dell line :/

Why are people hating on dell. U design ur own computer and if u don't like it, guess what, U designed it.

[p3eps]

I just hate how dell is even on this list does anyone even buy dell anymore?

Dell is like the worst pc vendor ever, they are still in business because of schools buying there crap dell line :/

I would imagine the majority of Dell buyers are businesses - as most offices I've been into run Dell.
Not ours though - we've run Macs for at least 9 years (as long as I've been there) and for a good few years before that... back in the day when they were ghastly looking beige machines!

[sziklassy]

back in the day when they were ghastly looking beige machines!

To be fair, so was everything else. Was it cheaper to produce in that color? It's kind of like wood paneling instead of paint on your walls. Did anyone ever think it actually looked good or did we all just kind of roll with it?

Lol Dell, HP and Dell are top two because they make cheap computers and it shows. I hate HP n Dell stuff, unreliable.

So then why isn't the same true with smart phone manufacturers?

[blwallace5]

K I'm confused. You said PC sales, then you go on to say its partly because iOS is so great...what does iOS have to do with an apple computer, nothing.

Secondly, apple hardware is NOT top of the line, my brother just bought a 17" laptop, forget what the actual name of it is and he said oh hey look I have an i7 now too. I said great do you know which one? He said "no apple site would not tell me specs" so I dug around and it was the slowest, worst benchmarked i7 of nearly all of them. It was ranked well below the i7 I run in my dell laptop that was already A YEAR OLD. Apple went out an found the cheapest i7 they could find just to slap the label on the box so to speak.

-Luke

I say so to speak because Apple would never dare put a label on the box because A) it would clutter up their boxes lol and B) because it would actually provide some useful spec about the product.

1. The article is stating that more people are looking at apple computers because of their ease of use with their iOS based products. Whether you agree or not there is nothing confusing about that.

2. Your story is complete garbage. Early 2011 17" MacBook pro's come with 2720qm and 2820qm i7 processors. Late 2011 17" MacBook Pros come with 2760qm and 2860qm processors. These are the best i7 mobile processors outside of the Extreme family, and were released in the MacBook pro within a month of Intel's release, meaning there is no way your dell could have had it a year prior.

P.S. how could you forget the name? 17" apple laptops come in exactly one name.

[lkailburn]

1. The article is stating that more people are looking at apple computers because of their ease of use with their iOS based products. Whether you agree or not there is nothing confusing about that.

2. Your story is complete garbage. Early 2011 17" MacBook pro's come with 2720qm and 2820qm i7 processors. Late 2011 17" MacBook Pros come with 2760qm and 2860qm processors. These are the best i7 mobile processors outside of the Extreme family, and were released in the MacBook pro within a month of Intel's release, meaning there is no way your dell could have had it a year prior.

P.S. how could you forget the name? 17" apple laptops come in exactly one name.

But that's like saying people stopped buying windows computers because the zune sucked. i love my iphone(well actually except the 4s which has been a POS compared to all the rest in terms of number of issues) but i ABHOR OSX and my use of iOS has no bearing on my feelings towards OSX.

my dell(purchased in june '10) has the 720QM which was released 2009Q3. I actually had my brother run sysctl machdep.cpu.brand_string to pull his proc info but now realize he got rid of the 17" (and yes i forgot if macbook or pro came in 17" so shoot me) but he got rid of it for a 15" with an i5 because he had to send his 17" back twice for hard drive failure, once for optical failure and once for screen failure. I don't doubt that this was likely a lemon and not the norm for all other 17" mbp but i swear we pulled up the proc info and it was NOT the 2720 or 2820 because passmark had it ranked well below mine at the time. what did the late 2010 17" come with? it's possible he scooped up some old stock or something cuz the 2720 and 820 are no slouch.

-Luke

[blwallace5]

But that's like saying people stopped buying windows computers because the zune sucked. i love my iphone(well actually except the 4s which has been a POS compared to all the rest in terms of number of issues) but i ABHOR OSX and my use of iOS has no bearing on my feelings towards OSX.

my dell(purchased in june '10) has the 720QM which was released 2009Q3. I actually had my brother run sysctl machdep.cpu.brand_string to pull his proc info but now realize he got rid of the 17" (and yes i forgot if macbook or pro came in 17" so shoot me) but he got rid of it for a 15" with an i5 because he had to send his 17" back twice for hard drive failure, once for optical failure and once for screen failure. I don't doubt that this was likely a lemon and not the norm for all other 17" mbp but i swear we pulled up the proc info and it was NOT the 2720 or 2820 because passmark had it ranked well below mine at the time. what did the late 2010 17" come with? it's possible he scooped up some old stock or something cuz the 2720 and 820 are no slouch.

-Luke

That's why I said whether you agree or not on the first statement. I don't necessarily agree either but we don't represent all of the consumer base and I can still understand what the author is saying regardless of my position on the subject.

There was no late 2010 MacBook pro, only a mid 2010 released in April of 2010. The i7 17" came with the 620m and 640m dual core processors. Unfortunately these were both upgrades as it came with an i5 in base configuration, which is lame. If your brother got this model he still had a top of the line i7 proc. your synthetic benchmark scores your 720qm much higher because it is quad core, but it is only 1.7ghz clock speed. A synthetic benchmark cannot account for the fact that programs are written differently. Many programs are written to run with the higher clock speed so all other things equal his mbp would run those programs faster than your quad core. And the opposite is true for apps with support for multiple threads. Yours would be faster then. What processor you get is dependent on your individual needs, but both of your computers have top of the line processors for their respective processor families. The 620m was released to the public 3 months before the 2010 MacBook update, so they received the newest processor available at the time.

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