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Originally Posted by NakedFaerie I cant wait to see how the iPhone evolves from now on without Jobs getting in the way. IF Apple listen to the consumer they MIGHT
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    Quote Originally Posted by NakedFaerie View Post
    I cant wait to see how the iPhone evolves from now on without Jobs getting in the way. IF Apple listen to the consumer they MIGHT actually make a good phone and one that consumers might actually want.
    One that consumers might actually want? Are you living under a rock or something?

    And show a little respect will ya!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsg View Post
    the iPod came from a british citizen that invented a digital music player but he couldn't afford to renew his pattern, Apple bought the pattern, made the iPod and Madoff with millions

    Steve Jobs wasn't a Genius, he was A Magpie (which seems to be fair game in the world of computing, had it being in any other field it would be plagiarism or theft)

    Edit: he was a Genius if it came to ripping other peoples ideas and selling them in a new way to make a **** load of money, like the computer mouse which belonged to Xerox
    Why does the Xerox reference come up so much? He, nor his company didn't steal anything from Xerox (based right here in Rochester). Drag & drop was a Xerox thing that they GAVE AWAY freely since they figured it was useless. At that time there was no mouse and everything was keyed in. It was free for anyone to use, Jobs just happen to be the first one who saw it's true potential. Oh yeah, and if you hadn't noticed PC's use a mouse too... did they steal it from Apple? By your logic it must be true.

    And just why is this NakedFaerie character even on this forum? Just to troll for fun?
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    Quote Originally Posted by luvmytj View Post
    Why does the Xerox reference come up so much? He, nor his company didn't steal anything from Xerox (based right here in Rochester). Drag & drop was a Xerox thing that they GAVE AWAY freely since they figured it was useless. At that time there was no mouse and everything was keyed in. It was free for anyone to use, Jobs just happen to be the first one who saw it's true potential. Oh yeah, and if you hadn't noticed PC's use a mouse too... did they steal it from Apple? By your logic it must be true.

    And just why is this NakedFaerie character even on this forum? Just to troll for fun?
    THANK YOU! Finally, an intelligent response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NakedFaerie View Post
    Still when you say "He was clever at knowing what sorts of things consumers wanted before they knew they wanted them" then why is the iPhone a piece of crap until its jailbroken?
    It's NOT what the consumer wants. We want OUR iPhone the way WE want it NOT the way Jobs wants it. We also wanted it with Flash but we never got it so Apple did it the way he wanted it and he didn't have a clue what the consumer wanted. If the iPhone is so good then why are Android phones selling so well? It's because thats more to what everyone wants. The only reason people still get an iPhone is because the apps are better on the iPhone than on the Android but the Android is a better phone.
    The vast majority of people with iPhones do not jailbreak. The vast majority are happy with stock. You are in the minority (along with myself and many others here) that wants more. You can't please everyone, but you can please the majority. That has been done. The majority obviously wants a device that "just works" (most overused Apple mantra ever) even if they have to give up a handful of things to get it.
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    Steve Jobs apparently isn't liked by some people around here. It's funny that you'd take the time to participate in this discussion to show your dislike in him. That's fine and all, but the issue here is: You talk smack about how he sucks and his products suck, but he's created great products that are incredibly high in demand. You hate his success, so you rationalize that he isn't a genius, and then you attack the article writer. Well that's just trollin' lol. For all you haters out there, if trollin' makes you feel good that's fine, still doesn't change what Apple is today. Whether you admit it or not, people want Apple products. And Steve Jobs whether you think he's a genius or not, has had more success than many of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i.Annie View Post
    Steve Jobs apparently isn't liked by some people around here. It's funny that you'd take the time to participate in this discussion to show your dislike in him. That's fine and all, but the issue here is: You talk smack about how he sucks and his products suck, but he's created great products that are incredibly high in demand. You hate his success, so you rationalize that he isn't a genius, and then you attack the article writer. Well that's just trollin' lol. For all you haters out there, if trollin' makes you feel good that's fine, still doesn't change what Apple is today. Whether you admit it or not, people want Apple products. And Steve Jobs whether you think he's a genius or not, has had more success than many of you.
    iPWND to you haters/trollers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luvmytj View Post
    Why does the Xerox reference come up so much? He, nor his company didn't steal anything from Xerox (based right here in Rochester). Drag & drop was a Xerox thing that they GAVE AWAY freely since they figured it was useless. At that time there was no mouse and everything was keyed in. It was free for anyone to use, Jobs just happen to be the first one who saw it's true potential. Oh yeah, and if you hadn't noticed PC's use a mouse too... did they steal it from Apple? By your logic it must be true.

    And just why is this NakedFaerie character even on this forum? Just to troll for fun?
    pc's use a mouse because they jumped on the bandwagon

    and Jobs took the mouse from Xerox PARC


    Quote Originally Posted by i.Annie
    but he's created great products that are incredibly high in demand
    he didn't create the products, everybody see Steve Jobs through rose tinted glasses, he had some great ideas but it took a team to make them reality
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsg View Post
    pc's use a mouse because they jumped on the bandwagon

    and Jobs took the mouse from Xerox PARC




    he didn't create the products, everybody see Steve Jobs through rose tinted glasses, he had some great ideas but it took a team to make them reality
    Troll much? I'm sure you knew very well what I meant, you're just trying really hard to be pessimistic about Steve Jobs and anything related to him. I can rephrase: "Steve Jobs participated in the creation of great products that are incredibly high in demand." Better?

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    And do you think gates single handily built the Zune and windows os? No he had a team. He had ideas and him and his team built it. Just like jobs and his team built the Mac and ect.

    But both came up or stole ideas. Genies??? Yes it made them reaches and they both do it well.
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    "Genius is something or someone embodying exceptional intellectual ability, creativity, or originality, typically to a degree that is associated with the achievement of unprecedented insight."If this doesnt define Steve Jobs then I dont know what does. So all you trolls and haters please just SHUT IT OFF!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mortopher View Post
    And they "stole" it from Xerox.
    Yea... but they didn't. The XEROX ALTO was a dead end and the brass never planned on developing it. Xerox got HUGE stock options as a result of the deal with Apple to show them what they'd been working on with PARC. You can 'say' Apple 'stole' it, but that would be like saying I 'stole' something from a dumpster. They had abandoned it. Apple SAVED it.

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    @Cowboy no I don't

    @i.Annie why is it when somebody states their opinion on here that doesn't line up with the Apple worship they get called a troll, I believe Steve Jobs was the driving force behind Apple and he achieved great things, but genius, I don't see it

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    Steve jobs = a guy who made Linux pretty and sold to morons saying I made this!
    Windows was made from scratchish?
    If I wanted a reliable Mac is I would go to Linux for free!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsg View Post
    @Cowboy no I don't

    @i.Annie why is it when somebody states their opinion on here that doesn't line up with the Apple worship they get called a troll, I believe Steve Jobs was the driving force behind Apple and he achieved great things, but genius, I don't see it
    The troll aspect is you nit-picking my word choice. Has nothing to do with how you feel about Steve Jobs. If what I said was offensive to you, consider that you knowing I didn't mean Steve created all Apple products all by himself but claimed that's what I meant...is offensive to me.

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    I don't think anyone troll or not likes it when Anthony posts articles that are very Mac fanboyish, it creats a bias that will create a flame war, but then again this is a Fanboy forum...and the fact that most users are windows users the odds are high that their are a lot of windows users here. I still enjoy these articles no matter what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cellular View Post
    Steve jobs = a guy who made Linux pretty and sold to morons saying I made this!
    Windows was made from scratchish?
    If I wanted a reliable Mac is I would go to Linux for free!
    Again wow. The intellect of some people amaze me. All great companies copy features from others, its smart. Half of new windows features are copied from Mac OSX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mik3y08 View Post
    Again wow. The intellect of some people amaze me. All great companies copy features from others, its smart. Half of new windows features are copied from Mac OSX.
    I am just trolling but chill man besides your intelligence comes into question I stated he took OS freeware and changed it and made it his the features you are talking about are irrelevant to the point I made. I know every one steals ideas when it comes to features.

    I only look at Anthony's articles to see when the troll page ends up on page 3

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    ^ I agree! Once again my heart is in my stomach that he is gone. It's so sad..... really sad. I will never forget this man that is for sure! Without him I wouldn't have my iToyz.... The video was amazing!

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