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Usually when purchasing cables I shy away from name-brand anything. If anyone in a big-box retailer even begins to utter the the words "Monster Cab--," a swift gut-check mutes those...
06-29-2011, 09:03 PM #1
Turns Out Apples Thunderbolt Cable Might Be Worth $50
Usually when purchasing cables I shy away from name-brand anything. If anyone in a big-box retailer even begins to utter the the words "Monster Cab--," a swift gut-check mutes those horrible words from coming out of their mouth.
So I approached the pricing of Apples recently released Thunderbolt cable with the reluctant optimism of Charlie Brown trying to kick a football. Fifty dollars is large chunk of change for an I/O cable. I don't care what they put in there, all the thing does is transfer files.
However, as iFixit discovered in their teardown of Apple's Thunderbolt cable, all I/O cables are not created equal. These cables are "Active" cables, meaning they contain onboard firmware chips, in this case Two Gennum GN2033 Thunderbolt Cable Transceiver chips amongst other smaller ones. The chips help boost signal quality to reduce errors in information sent through the Thunderbolt cable. The passive cables most of us are used to using don't require any of these chips because the transfer rates aren't nearly fast enough.
The chips are contained in the rather large plastic housings at both ends of the cable. Both needed to be melted/cut off, and desoldered to reach the lightning fast innards.
ArsTechnica spoke with sources within the telecom industry and confirmed that active cables would be used in future iterations of Thunderbolt. Presumably the active cables would allow the optical versions of Thunderbolt to transmit power to devices, which is one reason Apple stepped in to help Intel develop a copper-based Lightpeak solution (AKA Thunderbolt). Without it the cables wouldn't be able to supply power to external devices.
Despite all the fancy chips, and lightning fast transfer speeds I have a hard time believing any cable is worth $50. Hopefully a Mono Price variant emerges soon.
06-29-2011, 11:27 PM #2
The only reason i can think of for them to do this is to cut down on internal parts. Computers and mobile phones are already packing lots of electronics into an incredibly small space.
If they add this to the iPad/ iPhone, i wonder how much it will cost to buy a Thunderbolt port/ card for my PC.
At least its optional - iOS 5 syncs to iTunes wirelessly, right? Hmm, how will we jailbreak wirelessly?
06-30-2011, 10:00 AM #3
06-30-2011, 10:11 AM #4
Possibly one the best pieces of writing on all of modmyi.
06-30-2011, 10:29 AM #5
"Active cables" - anyone got feeling of a Matrix becoming true?
What does author have against "Monster Cable" and why
And i am asking not to start flame war, but rather because i have heard tons and tons of positive statements, and would like to hear the opposite side, since i was thinking of upgrading my jack-xlr cabling to those.
06-30-2011, 10:58 AM #6
Because no one has been able to prove that the regular black cables with RCAs, or other generic cables are inferior to what Monster offers. They also get litigious towards people who try to make thick stylish overpriced cables and use their own outrageous fake scientific terminology (Monster does the same BS) despite Monster not owning any rights to anything they sue over.
06-30-2011, 11:06 AM #7
But monster cables DO have a lifetime warrantee. For Guitars, they are the only ones to buy.
06-30-2011, 11:25 AM #8
What do you need a lifetime warranty for? Learn to solder and if your cables break just resolder them, whether it is 1/4" TRS connectors or XLR, the good stuff out there is stuff that can be maintained by the user. Good luck doing that with a resin-filled Monster connector. And learning to take care of your stuff and not being careless precludes the need for a warranty. But I guess keeping multiple expensive cables around for backup makes more sense than one inexpensive cable that can be fixed And then there's turnaround time on the RMA. All while you have a cable that is no more superior.
06-30-2011, 11:57 AM #9
I guess that's why they make cheap crappy cables and high quality cables. Everyone has different tastes. Some people don't care about quality and some people do. It's just a preference.
06-30-2011, 02:44 PM #10
What does quality of a connector have to do with the choice to use any wire anyone wants? How does making something yourself make something less quality than something already built? You can only buy predetermined cable lengths, which is a put off for most people who actually use tons of cables in a system for a purpose. Soldering is only a hassle for those who truly know nothing about electronics and are just people who read specs and quote them, with no idea what they mean, too. Monster charges you for the frills of fancy packaging, fancy colors of wire and styled insulation, fancy connectors, and pseudo-scientific terms. There's a guy out there who is offering up $1 million to anyone who can tell the difference between a standard cable and price-gouged fancy-looking cables.
06-30-2011, 02:58 PM #11
Uhh, using your iMac as a display for your MacBook Pro sounds like it's already for quite a bit more than transferring files like the news post implies.
06-30-2011, 09:49 PM #12
They make "high quality" diamond encrusted cables because people who don't know any better are talked into them by some kid at Best Buy. Which, for those who don't know, is how Best Buy and these other big box stores make their money. It certainly isn't off of the TV's or computers, they have to compete, and unfortunately for them they end up just above breaking even.And it will be like a taco inside a taco within a Taco Bell that's inside a KFC that's within a mall that's inside your dream! Springboard screwy after reboot? Here is the fix
07-01-2011, 09:30 AM #13
lol funny funny stuff here. I'll also give a one up to MonoPrice. I have a 25-foot HDMI-DVI adapter cable that I got for around 30 bucks probably 5 years ago for my home theater projector, and have had ZERO problems with it.