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Originally Posted by ramicio Maybe people who haven't been drinking don't want to be subject to a DUI checkpoint either because privacy is a right. So is traveling. Anyone who...
06-09-2011, 09:27 AM #21
Police officers are citizens, too, and have families to provide and care for. Insinuating that they shouldn't be paid is just about the dumbest thing I've heard this week.
06-09-2011, 10:12 AM #22
The correct way of thinking? So now everyone is supposed to think a certain way, toe a line? You are only proving my point that they are a power for themselves and not the greater good of everyone's freedom. In these times they only hire <100 IQ jocks who were picked on and now take steroids and feed on power. To be a police officer is not supposed to be a 9-5 job. It's supposed to be a public service and you are called only when needed. They are supposed to be a normal person with a job, and volunteer their duty. Give the people their guns back and we won't need cops to be on duty 24/7. I can absolutely not wait until these low-IQ roid-head cops are tossed aside by their government because they've served their purpose, and are otherwise useless to the end goal of the elite. I am going to laugh. Oh, and by saying police officers are citizens, too, you prove another point of mine. They are citizens, not better than anyone else, so they should not hold any power over anyone.
06-09-2011, 10:55 AM #23
06-09-2011, 11:49 AM #24
YES, now just to get trapster down. and let me point this out once again, it is called using an application to avoid the law....
06-09-2011, 12:20 PM #25
What's with all the stereotyping when it comes to police officers? Yes there are some who like to act all bad@$$ and hard to people who may seem weaker. But not all of them are that way. A daily grind of being in harms way and possibly being shot and killed tends to give some people that type of attitude, though.
My police officer friends are people I went to high school with and have known over the years and are absolutely NOT how you stereotype them out to be. One of my good friends I've known for over 10 years and is an ASE Certified mechanic and worked at a dealership a good number of years until he was laid off. Now he has joined his local town's police department, graduating from the academy less than a year ago and is now on patrol.
So you tell me, how in the hell would a person hold a separate 9-5 job and then expect to go attend to some "situation" when called on during those 9-5 hours of said job? That's the most idiotic thing I've ever heard.
06-09-2011, 01:03 PM #26
We have a right to guns. We shouldn't have to register them or get permission to own them, it's supposed to be a right. You don't have to register to speak freely...YET! If citizens were allowed to roam free with guns then maybe these crooks would think twice. What they have to worry about now is police response time. If they had to maybe think about a citizen might stick a barrel in their face things might change. You don't see Switzerland having crime problems.
So to call this application one that violates the law, is somewhat true. However, it helps citizens escape tyrannical law that is unconstitutional in the first place. Michigan doesn't allow checkpoints of any kind because of this.
I don't feel pity for cops whatsoever. EVERYONE in society is constantly in harm's way and anything can happen to anyone. They mainly create bad situations instead of stumble into them.
Give us freedom to any kind of gun we want (yes, fully automatic) and we will need fewer police. Probably to the point of where it becomes something that can be on call for while holding a normal job. Fire fighters do it just about everywhere, why can't cops?
06-09-2011, 01:53 PM #27
boys and girls had to our favorite other store get it there ! lol
06-09-2011, 08:27 PM #28
Well I don't know about anyone else, but I don't want anyone who's been drinking behind the wheel of a car and possibly wrecking into my car or my wife's car and hurting or killing one of us or our child. If police officers are public servants, I want them to serve us by getting them the hell off the road.
What's wrong ramicio, were you busted for driving after you had a few and feel the need to take out your anger on all law enforcement in this country?
06-10-2011, 08:22 AM #29
Why would you be driving around with your wife kid at like 2:30 at night, shouldn't you all be safe and asleep in your house? I don't know about anyone else, but from what I've observed DUI check points are not usually set up at logical times to catch drunk drivers, like a few hours before bars actually close... Bad things are always going to happen. To think a DUI checkpoint catches all these bad evil drunk drivers is just ignorant, and it does very little. And they are announced in the paper beforehand anyway. If you can read a paper you know when and where they will be...but this app is illegal??? And not everyone who gets behind the wheel with alcohol in their system is a threat. The people you see driving around sober with dents in their cars from normal driving...those are the people who can't drive with any bit of alcohol in their system. If someone is driving smashed drunk they will likely just get pulled over from their terrible driving. It would be logical for the cops to provide a public service to get a drunk person home safely, not let them drive, catch them, and fine them! They could have already done damage in the meantime. But an idiot wouldn't understand this. Everyone has a right to drive, even drunk people.
06-10-2011, 12:29 PM #30
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06-11-2011, 05:57 AM #31
To all Trapster users...
We are removing Checkpoint Trap from Trapster
There have been some recent news stories claiming that Trapster and similar applications will be removed from app store over the concern of drivers using these apps to avoid DUI Checkpoints. We want to make sure Trapster stays available to you, so we have decided to remove the Checkpoint trap type from Trapster. Our goal is to enable you to have access to the data you rely on. Removing Checkpoints will allow us to now quickly meet the requirements of the app store that have raised this issue.
We have been in discussions with you users and felt it was appropriate to get your input before making the final decision. Most of you thought that removing the checkpoint trap type would eliminate all of the debate over the purpose of our app.
We believe the inclusion of DUI checkpoints is a positive deterrent, a point of view which has been shared by law enforcement as well. We continue to believe that is the case, but place a greater importance on our ability to continue to offer the application and its entire range of benefits to our large community of users.
We believe it is important to provide a consistent consumer experience regardless of platform, so we plan on removing Checkpoints from all platforms that we are available on.
I will keep updating if something else change.
Lots of cool new features and more efficient versions are coming.
Long life Trapster. Trapster IS NOT going down
Last edited by javiert30; 06-11-2011 at 06:51 AM.
06-11-2011, 05:33 PM #32
Let's see, they can continue to provide data for speed traps. Speed kills, too. Sharing where speed traps are is the exact same thing as where DUI Stasi checkpoints are. But no one ******* about that because there is nothing like MADD for speeding. I'd be willing to bet more deaths are caused from people just driving like reckless assholes sober than intoxicated people just trying to make it home from the bar. A person who causes an accident drunk is going to be one of those morons who drive fast everywhere, so it wasn't a matter of being drunk, it's a matter of when they will cause an accident.
06-12-2011, 08:54 AM #33
Most often collisions caused by drunk drivers aren't a result of speed but more so a result of the greatly reduced reaction times of the intoxicated driver. So they are much more likely to run red lights, stop signs, not slow down for cars in front of them and the like.
Driving a hunk of deadly glass and metal down the road is a privilege, not a right. And no, intoxicated drivers absolutely DO NOT have the right to get behind the wheel. Period.
06-12-2011, 06:15 PM #34
To travel is a RIGHT. It's pretty ridiculous how people think you have a right to ride a bike on public roads without needing to be insured or pay registrations, yet driving a car is a privilege...it's pretty asinine. Everyone has the right to get behind the wheel, even intoxicated people. There is a HUGE difference between someone with 0.08% and someone blowing through red lights and stop signs. Again, those are the people who can't even drive in the first place. There should also be no pity for those who choose to be passengers of those people. Everyone cries about the "innocent" passengers dying, but they made just as stupid of a decision as the person driving.
Nothing will ever stop bad things from happening in the world, much less a government. In life, **** happens. If you need a nanny to hold your hand your whole life, maybe you should just get a lobotomy, live in a tard hatch, and have a nurse wipe your *** and spoon feed you until you die.
06-12-2011, 06:47 PM #35
WHen I was in law school, I studied under a law professor who successfully got out state to declare drunk driving checkpoints invalid under our state constitution. At least back then all the research showed they didn't work, but they are politically popular. These lines can back up traffic for hours and are often a pretext to search for other ills. I am sorry that people caved into the will of a small amount of legislators loook for a cheap political pick them up.
06-13-2011, 09:34 AM #36
I sure hope you vote in all federal, state, and local elections.
06-13-2011, 09:43 AM #37
An unsupervised 10 year old kid CAN get in a car and drive. The license, registration, and insurance ONLY serve to generate revenue, they do not serve any function to keeping the roads safe. If they did there would only be accidents be mechanical failures and such...freak things...not accidents by negligence. A person riding a bike on the road is perfectly capable of causing an accident and killing people, though they are not directly driving a "death machine." They can still cause property damage, and their use of the road does not pay for the road whatsoever...a problem that's plaguing the world with these gas-saving cars. If you think voting does so much you are a serious dumbass. Yea, you can vote, but the vast majority are zombie idiots like you who vote for who the boob tube tells you to. Yeah, life is full of responsibility, PERSONAL responsibility. I don't need a government to hold my hand and:
1. Protect me from what can't hurt me in the first place
2. Protect me from my own decisions (food, media, drugs)
3. Tax my income and try to tell me it's going to my retirement, while retirement age keeps rising and the SS cache is dwindling.
I am an adult, I make my own decisions, and I don't need to lose my right to certain things because lazy retards can't act as functional adults. You have the right to do so, but you SHOULD NOT be taken care of with my tax money, and infringe on my rights. We are truly raising a consequence-free generation and it's sickening. The only consequences anyone will soon have are monetary. You murder someone, pay up. Molest and rape, just give the townships money and be free to do more of it so long as you have the cash.
06-13-2011, 10:28 AM #38
well, I do agree that most American drivers are idiots (in my city most especially) and the licensing process in this country is a joke compared to most European countries and other places of the world. And while I would not have thought so at 16, I now do believe that 16 is too young to get full driving privileges. Maybe it should be 18 or even 21, who knows. That's a debate for another topic, though.
I do not appreciate the rude posts and name-calling, though. I do not vote based on who others tell me I should vote for. That in itself is irresponsible. But seriously, if you don't bother to vote for public officials during elections then you have no right to voice an opinion against policies made by those officials.
06-13-2011, 10:35 AM #39
It's not a privilege, it's a right. Educating about driving has nothing to do with being allowed to drive, or not. It's not the age that's the cause, it's the fact that people are being immature for far too long anymore. I see people who are almost 30 act like gossipy foolish teenagers.
So by your logic, if I vote, and the candidate I like lost, that I have no right to complain about the candidate I did not want get elected? What about the Presidential bid? Only 2 people ever get to the very last stage. If the government controlled media doesn't like a candidate, they have no chance of even making it to the ballot. And do you also trust votes are counted honestly? They groom a candidate and they know who they want, they can just cook up some vote numbers to favor their choice. Voting, as it stands, is pointless. Obama or McCain? Neither. You also have no voice with neither. Not voting is the only logical choice. I will vote when a candidate I want to be president makes it to the ballot. Voting also loses you other rights...you are subject to jury duty and military draft.
06-13-2011, 12:01 PM #40
no no no, what I meant was if you chose not to vote at all, then you have no place speaking out against a voted official you don't like or policies enacted by that official. If you took advantage of your American right to vote, and those you voted for didn't make it, then sure, speak out all you want against the ones you're against.
The right to vote is a pretty important freedom in this country, one that many people in other parts of the world do not have. And yes, sometimes voting comes down to the "lesser of two evils" in this day and age. But not voting at all is pretty pointless. It surely doesn't make it any less likely that either person will get elected. Don't like the person who got elected? Well if you didn't cast your vote in the first place then you really have no place complaining about his/her policies.