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Originally Posted by wakka102 This is the main reason I will never buy another Apple computer again unless they seriously change things. I got a 2009 Macbook Pro that cost...
05-09-2011, 06:46 PM #241
iPhone 4 to Android directly back to iPhone 4. I learned my lesson and will never leave iOS again.
05-09-2011, 07:03 PM #242
I am just drawing the correlation between an importance of gaming in a computer system to an individual, with immaturity and the companioning meager bank account balance. The ad is great but assure you that most people buying a $400 PC are doing it because thats about every penny they have and certainly are not going on trips to Hawaii (maybe Taco Bell).
Seriously though, If you are proud and happy to open up that Acer laptop and rock windows, more power to you.
05-09-2011, 07:10 PM #243
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05-09-2011, 09:07 PM #244
You have no idea WTF you're talking about. I obviously lost you when I told you comparing a desktop to a laptop was dumb. And it is. Very dumb.
EDIT; comparing a NEW desktop to a 2+ year old laptop none the less! Do you also tell people you know nearly nothing about computers when they ask about your Mac? You should.
Lemme break it down, because I really don't think you get this. Laptops are built for portability. Desktops are built for performance. BIG desktop, littly tiny laptop. You cannot fit the same hardware in a laptop, because it's small and built for.......PORTABILITY. It usually takes 2-3 years before tech advances enough to be fit into a laptop case. That is why an iPhone doesn't have a quad core processor. (YET!) It's also why laptops don't have 2Tbs internal storage. (YET!) Get it yet? You were going backwards comparing a 2 year old laptop to a new desktop. Especially a $2000 PC. You can get a quad core PC for $1000, so I'm interested to know the specs of your desktop. A more fair comparison would be a 2 year old desktop vs a new laptop.
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05-09-2011, 10:16 PM #245HK-Z™ on Game Center
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05-09-2011, 10:26 PM #247
All these are played at 1900x1200 and all graphics turned up to max save SC2 which is on high everything but still native 1900x1200
Left 4 Dead 2= avg 40+ fps in big swarms
Half Life 2/E1/E2= 80+ fps
Portal 2= 40+ fps in big open areas, over 70 fps in the test chambers, and rock solid 30 fps when recording full res and sound with Fraps
Fallout New Vegas= 45-50 fps everywhere
Fallout 3=50+ everywhere
StarCraft 2= 30+ in big battles, 50+ in small battles
Half Life (original)=200+ fps at all times (bad example because it's so old, but still)
Please tell me how that's 'not a gaming rig'? I'd like to know how my MacBook Pro isn't made for gaming, because in my experience it does the job very very well. If I turned off AA and turned the textures down a bit in all of those games I'd get another 20% improvement in fps. AA isn't really needed for me at that res and textures can be dialed back if need be but even without turning anything down it's a screamer. Especially for a laptop that's an inch thick and weighs less than a sack of concrete. It's a laptop 'gaming rig' if I've ever held one, that's for sure.HK-Z™ on Game Center
05-09-2011, 10:38 PM #248
No sorry I don't. I've got a ps3 for gaming. I use my mbp as a computer, I'm not saying you cant game on it. I was just stating that laptops aren't made for gaming, which is a fact.
05-09-2011, 10:45 PM #249HK-Z™ on Game Center
05-09-2011, 11:15 PM #250
Wow. My ps3 still works why wouldn't it? Psn is down yes but that doesn't effect my game rigs gaming ability. I still stand by laptops not made for gaming. Just because they can and do doesn't make them gaming rigs. I'd rather have a tower with sli'd/crossfire'd video cards, a ton of ram, and of course windows, than game on my mbp. That's just me tho too.
05-10-2011, 01:25 AM #251
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I'm not hating on the MBP, it has it positives, but it's not the laptop that i would go with unless i got some spare changes...
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05-10-2011, 01:48 AM #252Why Not To Buy A Mac
I'm just going to leave this here.
05-10-2011, 05:45 AM #253
^thats why you get the upgrades elsewhere than directly through Apple
Nonetheless just bc it's a bit pricier than you would prefer to afford doesn't mean it isn't a good computer. With the OS + the hardware it may look like a PC can par up to it with the same specs. Truthfully you may not admit it but Mac OS + Hardware = smooth sailing/fast action
Windows naturally is just a heavier OS. also the need for antiviruses will slow any computer down. Just bc Mac and PC can pack the same guns doesn't mean they'll run the same way.
You can't expect just bc a truck has a bigger and more powerful engine that it's faster than a sports car, can you? Bigger and heavier bodies weigh the truck down, and that's just one of the many factors.
Oh yeah, and the whole desktop for $2000 and MBP for $2400... Yeah bet in a year from now your MBP will still resell for more than your desktop. Just sayin.
05-10-2011, 07:52 AM #254
Ya know, it's funny. I have both a pc laptop and an air. I posted my experiences with both. And the fanboys just stick their fingers in their ears and say lalalala. To those who think windows 7 can't compete with OSX are fooling themselves. And to those who think a Mac is just overpriced hardware are also, just fooling themselves.
05-10-2011, 08:54 AM #255HK-Z™ on Game Center
05-10-2011, 08:57 AM #256HK-Z™ on Game Center
05-10-2011, 09:51 AM #257
My issue is with people comparing the two incorrectly with analogies that don't entirely make sense.
I myself think the base model MacBook (white) is overpriced but not the aluminum models. But I do believe PC's are simply not worth my money. Meaning: The win7 OS is worth my purchase, just not the hardware of a PC.
05-10-2011, 11:04 AM #258
My PC is slightly slower to boot than the air, but I suspect that is due in large part to a hybrid drive vs a pure ssd. We are only talking about a 10 sec difference as well. As far as execution, I don't have a real comparison as my pc has a hybrid drive and the air has a ssd, but the air is slightly faster to load photoshop, and slightly slower to perform the same task.
I don't paticularly think the macs are overpriced. You set your prices to what the market will bear, and I don't see any shortage of people getting in line to purchase Apple products
05-10-2011, 01:00 PM #259
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