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    I'm not sure that proves much. IMO.

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    I don't think anyone needs proof that Apple products cost more. The problem with that argument is that many do not care about price.

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    I'm talking about the exact same item but it costs $110% more just coz its for Mac.

    Who is that retarded to buy anything with the Mac name if its going to cost so much more?

    Thats what the topic is. "PCs costs so much more then Mac's" so thats what we are debating here.

    I can see its easy to either buy a Mac or buy a PC and take a holiday with the prices of Macs.

    You can also buy a PC and buy heaps and heaps of software or buy a stock Mac.

    You can also buy a PC and a game console like a PS3 or Xbox360 or Wii or maybe even all 4 items OR you can get a Mac...

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    Same people who pay more for an iPhone 4 and data plan vs better spec'ed phones with a cheap Tmobile plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StealthBravo View Post
    Same people who pay more for an iPhone 4 and data plan vs better spec'ed phones with a cheap Tmobile plan.
    In my opinion Apple products are kinda like a status symbol. It shows how well your doing. On another note people pay alot for art. Look at apples design, if that's not art I dont know what is.

    I think some Chevys are as nice as some BMWS in specs and design but people still pay more to have the BMW name.

    When you buy a Mac your not paying just for Mac os x. Your paying for apples selected hardware and beautiful design.
    When you buy a Mac your buying a designer computer, at a designer price. Yeah alot of people argue that a $10 no name shirt is just a nice as a perry ellis shirt, but some people choose to buy the Perry Ellis shirt because they think/know it's better or just because they can afford to. This "buy a PC and go to hawaii" thing is stupid because most people who buy macs could afford to go to hawaii when they want no matter what computer they purchase.

    PS. Microsoft should not be involved in this because they don't make hardware, they make the OS. and if you want to compare OS price OS X is waaaay cheaper and you don't have pick a "tier" of os x. Every OS X install is OS X ultimate.
    If microsoft made a computer optimized for windows with windows optimized for that specific hardware it would be pretty much the same price as a Mac.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ohthatguyagain View Post
    Apple = BMW
    PC = Ford

    Sure the mustang may be faster, but in three years time, I'd put money that the Beamer still drives like new.
    Bad analogy.

    A. Alot of BMWs are faster than a Mustang. My quad cab truck (07 GMC Sierra Denali/L92) makes 5 speed Mustang GTs sit down to pee.

    B. BMWs are NOTORIOUS pieces of junk. Unless you can afford a new one every 3 years, so you can send the pending calamity to the guy who's buying a used BMW because he wants to front like he can afford one. I see very few 1992 BMWs on the road. 1992 Mustangs, on the other hand.....

    But I get what you're saying, kinda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StealthBravo View Post
    I stopped playing games when I was 16. I use my MBP for work. So yes, I suppose PCs are better for kids because they are cheap and you can play shootem up games. Congrats.
    Ah that was a little immature. I'm in my mid 20's and I enjoy gaming. Enjoying games isn't age specific. I do however prefer games consoles than PC's, because when I get game on a console it's more or less guaranteed to run and run well. Whereas with a PC you often can run into troubles especially with newer games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thetoothfairy View Post
    Great statement! Mac users have spent a lot of time using Windows! GREAT! I have used PC's for many years and built them as well... I have good reasons as to why I switched over....
    As I read every post in this thread it appears that most of the PC users are concerned about game playing more than anything else...
    As far as I am concerned... I like performance when it comes to computers....
    I have a thought about PC's and games but I'm trying to figure out how to word it.
    I'll come back to it

    Quote Originally Posted by NakedFaerie View Post
    More proof PC is cheaper and better than Mac.
    Today on Catch Of The Day - One Deal, Everyday, Midday they have a:
    1TB External USB HDD MAC EDITION for $149 Catch Of The Day - One Deal, Everyday, Midday
    2 weeks ago I brought a 1TB External USB HDD for $68 from the exact same site but as its not a MAC EDITION its $81 cheaper.
    That has nothing to do with the cost of a Mac Vs the cost of a HP PC.(Apple didn't make that HDD). It is however proof that the site is exploiting consumers, hoping they do not have sufficient knowledge about tech stuff. There is no such thing as a Mac Edition of a HDD. A HDD is a HDD and can be formatted to whatever you want. The $68 HDD you bought will work on Mac, or Linux, or almost any OS you can find.

    I've seen HDD in my local PC World that were about €30-€40 more expensive for exactly the same spec of HDD, but branded with "Designed for Windows 7". It's just the retailers being greedy.

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    First, the OS was better...
    Then, it became software/compatibility...
    And now, it's down to PRICE with biased comparisons!

    Something is telling me that good old M$ is running out of hangers!

    And by the way, if you're really smart and not an infant, you should be wealthy enough to buy a mac AND go to hawaii!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChaos View Post
    This simply isn't true. Sure, 5 years ago when the tech industry was able to improve itself significantly year after year a PC was outdated a few months later(much as Apple's refreshes are happening now). I have been running the i7 for a year and a half now and Apple is just now catching up. You are paying BMW prices for a KIA. I am paying KIA prices for a BMW. This cannot be argued no matter how you wish to try to slant it. If Apple ever wakes up and becomes reasonable in their pricing I will jump aboard.
    apple had i7's more than a year ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by NakedFaerie View Post
    More proof PC is cheaper and better than Mac.

    Today on Catch Of The Day - One Deal, Everyday, Midday they have a:
    1TB External USB HDD MAC EDITION for $149 Catch Of The Day - One Deal, Everyday, Midday
    2 weeks ago I brought a 1TB External USB HDD for $68 from the exact same site but as its not a MAC EDITION its $81 cheaper.
    Point? blkcadi and I both bought 1TB quad-interface drives ("mac edition") for $80. iomega drives to boot!


    The only people who have a right to speak on this topic are those who have TRULY used Windows and OS X (OS X natively, on a mac). All others are simply jealous trolls who are in misery and want company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by feidhlim1986 View Post
    Ah that was a little immature. I'm in my mid 20's and I enjoy gaming. Enjoying games isn't age specific. I do however prefer games consoles than PC's, because when I get game on a console it's more or less guaranteed to run and run well. Whereas with a PC you often can run into troubles especially with newer games.
    How is that immature? I am not against gaming. I have several friends my age (29) that are still into spending their nights drinking and playing games. If that makes them happy, good for them. There is just a big difference between their mentality when purchasing a computer and mine.

    For example, yesterday I was discussing the 27" Apple Cinema Display with someone and their complaint was that it has issues with playing back DRM content like netflix or hd rentals in iTunes. My initial thought is, who cares? I have a 65" hanging on the wall for when I want to watch something. I just need a well made display that plays nicely with my MacBook Pro for client product demonstrations.

    My primary concern when purchasing a computer is how I can use it to make a crap load of money. That's all I care about. It is a tool for me. All recreational stuff is such a low priority to me.

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    Yup it's all about what you want out of a computer. If you want your computer to be your game center/movie player/media player for all aspects of your life then I guess PC is the way to go.

    But like you Stealth I don't use my computers to watch movies (maybe on a lazy stay in bed day yeah but that's what my big flat screen LED + DVD player is for) or play games (I rarely game but when I do its not on my laptop).

    Hardcore gamers and intensive media users need to stick with PC, but for people like you who want to accomplish work and people like me who use it a ton for homework such as programming for me will be satisfied with Mac.

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    What a joke! Seriously? Comparing an AMD P960 to an Intel i7-620M? It's slower and weighs 2 POUNDS MORE than the MBP? Might as well compare a Hyundai Elantra (with a 200LB weight in the trunk) to a BMW 328i.

    But, let's look real world where a lot of folks actually buy computers...
    Hmmm... I just went to bestbuy.com (one of the largest PC retailers) and did a search:

    Screen Size: 15" - 16"
    Hard Drive Size: 500GB - 699GB
    System Memory RAM: 4GB
    Processor Brand: Intel®
    Processor: Intel® Core™ i7

    and I got two hits:

    Apple® - MacBook® Pro / Intel® Core™ i7 Processor / 15.4" Display / 4GB Memory / 500GB Hard Drive
    Model: MC721LL/A | SKU: 1535836

    Rain Computers - LiveBook 15.6" Mobile DJ + Audio Workstation - Black/Silver
    Model: LBS-11 | SKU: 1011322

    both @$1799 -- non-sale price (MBP is actually on sale for $1709... so I can pick up a copy of Windows and still pay less)

    But let's "Do the math":
    Here's the best I could find on Best Buy to match the MS ad:

    HP ENVY Laptop / Intel® Core™ i7 Processor / 17.3" Display / 8GB Memory / 1.5TB Hard Drive
    Model: 17-2090nr
    SKU: 2520085 @ $1699 (sold out) -- this is the only one listed with '3D' that had most of the other specs matching

    Apple® MacBook® Pro / Intel® Core™ i7 Processor / 17" Display / 4GB Memory / 750GB Hard Drive
    Model: MC725LL/A
    SKU: 1535918 @ $2499 (non-sale price)

    Major differences: Mac has no 3D but higher resolution. Mac has dedicated 1GB video RAM for its 6750M vs shared video RAM on HP 6850M. ExpressCard/34 on Mac means I can tap into an eSATA drive, or SSD, or whatever. Nada for the HP. HP has Blu-Ray, nada for the MBP. HP is heavier.

    So, just on the HW, the HP 'looks' like it might be better, but that's where, in my opinion, it ends. In a year, it won't really matter what you bought because it will be 'old' and there's typically no way to upgrade CPU, memory will cap out, and the best you could do on the drive is replace with SSD.

    So that leaves software. Buy the HP and you can run any software you want as long as it's Windows. Buy the Mac and you can run any software you want. Advantage: Mac. It's not a matter of which is better, Mac/Win, it's a matter of what is more flexible. Mac. Ever have an HD fail? Time Machine makes it almost idiot proof: plug in a drive, tell it to use it and you are done. When the drive runs out of space, backups automatically age-out the oldest without you having to do anything. Try explaining to your mom how to delete the oldest backup so Windows Backup works like it's supposed to.

    And since we're talking about things failing, that leads to reliability. Apple wins there too.
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    I travel a lot (I've logged over 50K air miles since Jan) and the last thing I want to add is more weight to a bag. I would have taken an 11" MBA if that had been an option, but the company only offers the 15" MBP, so better than nothing. Before that I carried a Thinkpad x61s (not tablet) along with my 2007 15" MBP for 3 years. The MBP never had a problem. I was not 'authorized' to connect my MBP to the company network so I needed to use the Thinkpad and for 3 years it was nothing but trouble. They replaced it twice. Just a litany of different problems. Before that I used two Dells, HPs and Toshibas both for home and work. The 2007 Macbook Pro has been the most consistently reliable, least problematic computer I have ever had. When I got the new MBP from the company in Jan, I wiped the 2007 MBP and gave it to my wife. She couldn't be happier. She'd like something smaller that would be easier to carry around, but that's it. For all her home-office stuff (which is about what 90% of people use computers for) it's fast and trouble free. All her junk gets backed up with Time Machine and I don't have to mess with it. She accidentally deletes something and she can go into Time Machine and get it back because the interface is the same one she uses to manage all her other files -- nothing to learn. My daughter uses the same computer and since OS X has had 'real' security (as compared to Windows) for years and years, there's never been a problem there.

    I like to automate repetitive tasks as much as I can and AppleScript is amazing. I can easily schedule these things as well, and not having to mess with CygWin to run shell scripts is nice since I've got a Unix environment underneath.

    And, yeah, when I get time I do play a couple of games (although I prefer consoles [PS3/360] so it's more a test of skill than hardware) and for that, I'm quite happy to Boot Camp, which keeps my gaming environment separate from my work environment so I can tune stuff without having to worry about messing anything up I need for work.

    Anyhow, that's just my thoughts and opinions, but I'd say I'm in good company with a big chunk of PCW's 79,000 respondents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NakedFaerie View Post
    I'm talking about the exact same item but it costs $110% more just coz its for Mac.

    Who is that retarded to buy anything with the Mac name if its going to cost so much more?

    Thats what the topic is. "PCs costs so much more then Mac's" so thats what we are debating here.

    I can see its easy to either buy a Mac or buy a PC and take a holiday with the prices of Macs.

    You can also buy a PC and buy heaps and heaps of software or buy a stock Mac.

    You can also buy a PC and a game console like a PS3 or Xbox360 or Wii or maybe even all 4 items OR you can get a Mac...
    So I'm retarded for having a Mac and a PC. Your logic fails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StealthBravo View Post
    How is that immature? I am not against gaming. I have several friends my age (29) that are still into spending their nights drinking and playing games. If that makes them happy, good for them. There is just a big difference between their mentality when purchasing a computer and mine.
    Your earlier comment sounded to me like you were saying games are for 16 year olds or that someone older than 16 years of age shouldn't be wasting their time playing games.
    It's clearer now to me what you meant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon#pie View Post
    apple had i7's more than a year ago.


    The only people who have a right to speak on this topic are those who have TRULY used Windows and OS X (OS X natively, on a mac). All others are simply jealous trolls who are in misery and want company.
    When I went to buy my second MBP (the first one was returned for defects) the best they had to offer was a core duo(duo core?), a 500mb GPU. I had heard that the i5 and i7 were coming, but they hadn't launched yet. $2500 with no extended warranty. I went in wanting to buy one, but couldn't justify it. I agree as well with if you haven't actually used OSX on a Mac that there really isn't a discussion here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i.Annie View Post
    Yup it's all about what you want out of a computer. If you want your computer to be your game center/movie player/media player for all aspects of your life then I guess PC is the way to go.

    But like you Stealth I don't use my computers to watch movies (maybe on a lazy stay in bed day yeah but that's what my big flat screen LED + DVD player is for) or play games (I rarely game but when I do its not on my laptop).

    Hardcore gamers and intensive media users need to stick with PC, but for people like you who want to accomplish work and people like me who use it a ton for homework such as programming for me will be satisfied with Mac.
    Idk man. I bought a used dual 2.5 Ghz G5 for $400 with 3Gbs RAM. HDMI out to my LCD + 2Tbs of DVD and Bluray rips....iPhone for mouse....I can't think of a cooler PC setup. Besides, the looks and comments I get when they see that beast!? "Dude has a damn MacPro for his media library!" It's cold, bruh. Real cold. Slick, efficient, and I've turned it off twice in the last 9 months. Both times were to flex and show it with the case open.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShredNasty View Post
    Idk man. I bought a used dual 2.5 Ghz G5 for $400 with 3Gbs RAM. HDMI out to my LCD + 2Tbs of DVD and Bluray rips....iPhone for mouse....I can't think of a cooler PC setup. Besides, the looks and comments I get when they see that beast!? "Dude has a damn MacPro for his media library!" It's cold, bruh. Real cold. Slick, efficient, and I've turned it off twice in the last 9 months. Both times were to flex and show it with the case open.
    Yeah but come on, WIndows/PC argument is that they have better stuff for a cheaper price for more multimedia. You can't win using a Mac and having something great bc PC is gonna say yeah I can have the same setup for half the price you paid. Or rather I can get a brand new PC and have the same setup for the same price you paid for your used Mac or whatever.

    Macs can be total amazingness but only in the eyes of Mac users you can't convince a strictly PC user on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i.Annie View Post
    Yeah but come on, WIndows/PC argument is that they have better stuff for a cheaper price for more multimedia. You can't win using a Mac and having something great bc PC is gonna say yeah I can have the same setup for half the price you paid. Or rather I can get a brand new PC and have the same setup for the same price you paid for your used Mac or whatever.

    Macs can be total amazingness but only in the eyes of Mac users you can't convince a strictly PC user on this.
    True true. I have friends that are Android/PC ONLY and have admitted that Apple is better, but won't because Apple is for hipsters, and douchers. I laugh, ask if I'm a hipster, and enjoy my toys. If they're dead set in their ways, we can't change em.

    But I love my setup and am looking forward to the iPad2 and 27" iMac later this year! I ain't broke, but I ain't rich!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by StealthBravo View Post
    I stopped playing games when I was 16. I use my MBP for work. So yes, I suppose PCs are better for kids because they are cheap and you can play shootem up games. Congrats.
    That's kind of harsh don't you think SB? I'm almost 30, I use my MBP for work/play and I love shooting aliens in the face. How does you stopping playing games at 16 have any meaningful impact of the cost of PC's, what they are good for and how they are used? The answer is, nothing. Just because you don't play games and components/full pcs are relatively cheap doesn't mean it's a tick in the box against PC's in general. If you don't use your personal computer for games AND play doesn't mean others that do don't have a system that holds the same value or is as good.

    Everything else aside, that advertisement is brilliant. What a good tongue in cheek bit of humor the person who thought of that has! I hope that person continues in the ad business because that's a great ad.
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    This is the main reason I will never buy another Apple computer again unless they seriously change things. I got a 2009 Macbook Pro that cost me 2400$, I bought a PC for 2000$ which includes a 24 inch 1080p monitor this year. I feel my Macbook Pro purchase was a total waste, the fact that I bought a PC less than 2 years later that is at least 10 times more powerful and cheaper tells me that Apple is a scam as far as their computer market goes. Their mobile devices are still awesome, as I own an iPhone 4 and love it, but I will avoid their computers from this point forward. It's rather funny when I open up my Macbook Pro next to someone else who has one and they ask me how I like my Mac, and I shock them by saying it was a waste of my money. It's not a bad computer but its certainly not worth the money spent on it.

    Also this is just my personal opinion, but I find that Windows OS is better than OS X. For every type of program that I want to use on a Mac I can find 5 programs to choose from on the PC. For video editing, even the PC is superior. In my experience with each (which is extensive) I find Sony Vegas>Final Cut Pro.
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