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04-12-2011, 04:58 PM #61
Well, what a surprise. I thought members of Congress dont pay certain taxes and are def getting tax breaks. how about they tax eachother and that will help cut the deficit. Im currently deployed and yup sure enough the shutdown just about caused of all us service members to stop getting paid. hmmm taxes on the higher class need to be implemented not keep getting tax breaks
04-12-2011, 05:04 PM #62
04-12-2011, 05:14 PM #63
I knew he was talking about Bush.
04-12-2011, 05:20 PM #64
Personally I think it's ridiculous that so may internet sales get around being taxed. Why shouldn't items on the net be taxed, after all?------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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04-12-2011, 05:23 PM #65
Ive allways paid taxes on iTunes. But this isn't souly for iTunes, but /all/ Internet purchasing. Some states don't charge tax for online purchases. And I've had the lucky advantage to partake. Its get some give some. Lets leave it alone we all win sometimes and loose sometimes.
That is all.
04-12-2011, 05:26 PM #66
04-12-2011, 05:41 PM #67
The guy he left it for decided to spend even more, & start another war.
He will leave his mess for the next president. Whine, cry, gripe, no government is ever going to get us out of the mess we are in. They can't even agree to disagree.
The problem is we care just enough to ***** about it. None of us care enough to stand together & tell them to shove it. Republican, Democrat, blah blah. If we truly wanted it to change we would make it happen. Instead we sit on are arses & let them continue doing what ever they want.
Then again we can't stand together cause we don't agree.
If you really want to blame someone for a war, talk to Colin Powell, he convinced Bush Sr to pull back. Then came Clinton, who sent forces over to get bin laden 3 times & called them back 3 times. Then it was Bush Jr's turn, we all know what he did. Then came Obama, what was it he said? Oh yeah Time for the troops to come home. How many are still deployed? Not to mention he gets involved in another war.
But go ahead blame all our problems on 1 person...I'm sure it helps you sleep at night.If I can't mod it...I don't want it.
04-12-2011, 05:43 PM #68
Seriously. Middle class is getting just as F'ed in the *** as everyone else. So when you cry wolf and say tax the rich more more more you just sound ignorant. Once I see you donating millions of dollars to your community and other groups around the work annually and when I see you are employing 100s of people then we can talk about taxing the rich more, because if you are doing all that for society you'd be rich and I think your views would change.
04-12-2011, 05:43 PM #69
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04-12-2011, 06:28 PM #71
04-12-2011, 06:39 PM #72
And let the conversions from the last honest music buyers to music pirates begin
04-12-2011, 07:13 PM #73
We don't have to agree on anything here. But the reality is that people of all political persuasions love their country and want to make it better. Demonizing others because some yobo on TV gets you worked up and is telling you the other is unAmerican is not helping. This country has dug itself into a hole since the end of the Clinton era (he doesn't get off scott-free, I think NAFTA was a rotten deal for us), but the reality was that there were politicians who were willing to spend us into the poorhouse. That these people were, for the most part, Republicans is just a matter of historical fact. That these people (and Clinton) helped to deregulate banks and financial institutions didn't help. That these banks and financial institutions were venal enough to let the world's economy get to the brink of total destruction is just what they do (the frog and the scorpion syndrome). That people were willing to buy things they couldn't afford was just human nature and childish behavior. You didn't HAVE to buy the big house when the lender offered you a loan you couldn't afford with a balloon payment on your signature. That Bush walked away with the country in a mess is an historical fact. As is the fact that HE is the one who started the whole stimulus package idea, not Obama.
Let's stop the whole name-calling thing and discuss this stuff rationally. I can name plenty of Democrats I don't like or who have done (to my mind) wrong acts. I'd love to hear one Republican say that ANY Republican has ever done anything bad for the country. At that point, maybe we can have a discussion like adults. Now, it just sounds like Fox news throwing out talking points and rhetoric.Senior
04-12-2011, 07:17 PM #74
i concur. Tax Like you've never been taxed before..lmaoIt is Not by our Hands that things Change, BUT rather our Interventions that change ourselves.
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04-12-2011, 07:34 PM #75
Democrats wanting more of your money? Weird!
04-12-2011, 07:42 PM #76
How about we cap what professional sports players make!!! Their income is ridiculous!!! No person needs to make that much just for playing a silly game. Don't get me wrong, they are talented at what they do and should be compensated BUT so are pianists or artists or whatever. We don't see those other talents making $20mil in 5 years!!!
But, at the same time, we encourage/allow those salaries so whose to blame; the athlete, the professional sports associations, or ourselves...
04-12-2011, 07:54 PM #77
That's like saying we should cap the prices on iPhones, and other Apple devices because they are outrageously expensive... Once again it's the public who are willing to pay the price.... Just business.
04-12-2011, 08:29 PM #78
Republicans spending more of your money? Weird!
Truly, get past the name calling and into an objective discussion. We are in this mess because of Republicans. You admit it. Now we have Democrats in charge wanting more money to fix it. I admit it. Anything else is spin.
As to the Mr. Wilson comment directed towards me:
"this is mainly what libs want. They are afraid of people like Tim who has common sense and doesn't rely on govt garbage that they try to force feed you. Ever wonder why education is trash nowadays? They WANT you to become dependent on them and become hateful and jealous toward the hard-working."
"Whoa Mr. Wilson. I'm not against education, do I look like an idiot? But because of how soft our society is, the government keeps lowering the bar so that every retard can pass a class. I'm not sure where you got that I think that every child just be ran around like a headless chicken, but I do believe that we should have a lot tougher curriculum. I also don't believe education should be ran by the government either, but that's my opinion"
So you insult teachers, you sully the good name of idiots, you call our society soft (well, with that I agree), you defame our students by calling them "retards," which also slurs the handicapped, you seem to be for school vouchers and you think that the last hundred years of free public education for everyone is just wrong. And you "believe that we should have a lot tougher curriculum. I also don't believe education should be ran by the government either" which, it seems to me, would place you in the "the bar was too low" category.
You have every right to your opinion, but you need more than opinion to have an educated discussion. We could have a long discussion on how big business has intruded into education by lobbying to have students trained to follow instructions, not to think for themselves. We could discuss the hundreds of millions of dollars being spent in California alone on State testing that doesn't really help the students. We could discuss what has happened in Philadelphia with its privately-run school system being totally dysfunctional. There are lots of areas we could be discussing. Instead, I see people here just parroting talking heads on TV. Government workers aren't the problem. Taxes, in and of themselves, aren't the problem. Reasonable politicians aren't the problem. Fringe elements and spin meisters and zealots are part of the problem. The other part is that we'd rather just call names than sit down and try to work this problem through. We'd rather get ours and the hell with everyone else. It's your fault, not mine. Well, I have news for you all. We all live in this world, and we'd all better figure our way out of this mess. It's gonna hurt, but it needs to hurt everyone, not just the poor and middle class. If the rich just dance through this, buy up all the politicians, get us to one-party rule, we are done for.Senior
04-12-2011, 08:40 PM #79
Oh, I thought everyone payed taxes on iTunes purchases! But the tax is low where I live.. For a $.99 app (or whatever you'd rather chose), it costs $1.04!
04-12-2011, 08:48 PM #80
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