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04-07-2011, 01:38 PM #21
As long as my gaming is not affected I'm fine. I just hope they find some kind of middle ground where we can install homebrew and at the same time pirates and cheaters get banned or something. Or maybe it's time I dust my 360 and get a few games out of it.
04-07-2011, 01:38 PM #22
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04-07-2011, 01:42 PM #23
I've never been a fan of Sony.
Sony does lose money when dealing with service outages. You think Network and Server Engineers work for free?
Actions such as these make the general public associate legal jailbreaking with illegal hacking. It is extremely counter-productive to do this.
They'll cost Sony a tiny amount of money, annoy fellow gamers but, the worst thing is that now Sony's legal team will be able to spin it to make it seem that geohotz is somehow affiliated with a group of people who have no problem breaking various laws.
04-07-2011, 01:42 PM #24
Correct me if I am wrong, but the entire point of that court case is because Geohot "hacked/jailbroke" a PS3.
Right...so...Sony is suing someone because of legal activity? Sony is getting away it as well! Sony is getting away with suing someone for legal actions. If anything, the concept of legality no longer applies. If something that is legal can be made into a criminal offense, than why can't something illegal be turned into a noble action?
Anonymous is simply leveling the playing field.
But see, this is besides the point.
You claim that Anonymous are the "bad guys" here. They are the lesser of two evils here IMO. Sure, hacking Sony's websites is not a nice thing to do...but if Sony doesn't have to play by the rules...why should Anonymous?
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04-07-2011, 01:46 PM #25
04-07-2011, 01:47 PM #26
Not the same as jailbreaking.
I don't agree with what Sony is doing, because geohotz provided a tool that was not designed for pirated games. Whoever played pirated games did so by their own choice.
BTW, if people want to get stuff done, DDoS'ing a site isn't the best way. People used to say the same things about Microsoft until they got ***** slapped with antitrust suits.
04-07-2011, 01:55 PM #27
A person who's name is "LivesforJihad" is talking about a lesser of two evils? funniest thing I've seen all day. Unless of course you mean the literal translation.
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04-07-2011, 01:57 PM #28
I hope they keep hacking the PSN servers as well. Whatever it takes to get a flood of customer service complaints to Sony even if it only results in flustering them and doesn't actually make them drop the case. If nothing it will at least show that Sony is vulnerable and they'll look even more ridiculous than they already do.
Plus I'll get to laugh at my buddy who keeps bragging about how PSN is so much better than Xbox Live because it's free.
All in all we know this won't do much to Sony but whatever opportunities we have to twist the knife are always welcome in my opinion.
04-07-2011, 01:59 PM #29
DDoS? Yes, illegal.
Suing someone? Might be morally wrong, but anyone can sue anyone.
If the Sony executives went to geohotz's house and beat the **** out of him, I'd be illegal.
Suing is the legal way of beating the **** out of someone.
I believe you should be able to do what you want to anything you buy, but Anon is hurting Geohotz's case by doing this.
FYI, some people work, so they have very little time to use their consoles. I'd be pissed if the 1 time I could play video games for a week I couldn't log in because people think DDoS will make Sony drop a lawsuit.
04-07-2011, 02:00 PM #30
04-07-2011, 02:03 PM #31
By the way, you've probably already met a few of them in person. That whole anonymous thing kind of explains how your dream of breaking their fingers most likely won't come to fruition.
04-07-2011, 02:17 PM #32
Video games are to expensive first of all and corporations like sony and others have more rights then a we do in alot cases corporations get away with all kinds of crimes.
04-07-2011, 02:17 PM #33
And no, I am not confused, because the term "jail breaking" is being used in the court case. See, the funny thing with law, is that terminology is everything.
And hacking game consoles was never declared illegal either...but jail breaking WAS declared legal. Sony is using the term jail breaking, so based on terminology...they are filing a lawsuit for something that is legal.
As such...Sony is in the wrong, legally speaking. Common sense as a consumer also tells me they are wrong because it is a massive company bullying a single consumer.
I think...YOU are confused...and YOU are uneducated in the content matter.
In the broadest sense, jail breaking simply allows the use of unsigned code. As with any modification to any retail electronics consumer device, running unsigned code can be TERMED jail breaking, simply based on the definition set out by congress. At the least, the term jail breaking is a comfortable euphemism for "hacking your device"...although the term is more widely adopted by the iPhone community. Strictly based on definition, it can be applied to any electronic device that has been altered to run unsigned code.
so...Geohot is being sued for jailbreaking a PS3...
Jalbreaking is legal...
Sony is Wrong...
Anonymous is making Sony pay the piper.
You are wrong Mr. Undercover Moderator...
04-07-2011, 02:25 PM #34
Whenever someone rights about Anon they do it in a stupid manner (Faux News, Essany, etc) Please do your goddamn research before you talk about Anon. I'm not bother explaining who they are because if you don't know that then you shouldn't be talking about them
04-07-2011, 02:26 PM #35
Anonymous are retaliating to a completely legal situation (Sony suing Georgy Boy) with an internationally illegal activity DDOS that only strengthens Sony's argument and the public's perception of "hackers"......yeah they're great alright.
They're all for free speech and freedom of information....sure....that's why they hide behind their keyboards watching V for Vendetta too many times.
04-07-2011, 02:29 PM #36
04-07-2011, 02:39 PM #37
04-07-2011, 02:50 PM #38
Blatantly hacking sites is not what GeoHot and this community is about..... if it was jailbreaking would be easy cause they'd just release Apple code, and that's the reason why were set apart..... we only do legal!!!
04-07-2011, 03:22 PM #39
Lol. At the comments.
You guys are funny
04-07-2011, 03:23 PM #40
He/she does that quite often. Just ignore them, sometimes narrow minded people refuse to cross into reality.
On that note...I agree with you 100%. And if you really think about it, jailbreaking an idevice allows you to pirate apps as well. So issues involved with hacking the ps3 aren't different than jailbreaking an idevice.
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