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Thread: Sony Dishes Out 'Lifetime Ban' to Known Hackers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    To everyone talking about cheating online con MW2 or SOCOM. Those hacks are done via savegame exploits. The jailbreak has nothing to do with the cheating. In fact I doubt the ban will touch the cheaters, only people using cfw and homebrew programs unsigned by sony will be banned from the PSN. I'm pretty sure the cheating will still go on.
    many people have been banned and cant play, and the banning still goes on.

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    sony is getting out of control with this. they need to realize that the cat is outta the bag and embrace it. next they'll start banning people for not buying the ps3 at an authorized dealer.
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    They're doing this because of all the money they're losing. In most cases where someone jailbreaks their PS3, their reason is for playing pirated copies of ps3 games everyone else pays for. Some people do only hack their PS3s just to back up original copies of the game that they've purchased just incase they lose or damage the disc. But c'mon. Let's be realistic. That's probably only 5% of the people that do hack their PS3s. With todays technology advancements. It's getting easier and easier to get stuff pirated and without getting caught; hurting the pocket of the developers who've worked so hard to please us. Same reasoning applies to all aspects of media, like music and movies. This is probably the best they can do to stop pirating but someone'll eventually get around it.

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    Now that Sony is becoming such a control freak company and banning hackers, I'm no longer buying any of their products. If Apple were to ban one single jailbreaker from using their hacked iPhone, I'd get rid of my iPhone and iTouch and buy a Droid in a heartbeat.
    "In computer networking, a Media Access Control address (MAC address) is a unique identifier assigned to most network adapters or network interface cards (NICs) by the manufacturer for identification, and used in the Media Access Control protocol sub-layer." (1)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightmaster View Post
    Now that Sony is becoming such a control freak company and banning hackers, I'm no longer buying any of their products. If Apple were to ban one single jailbreaker from using their hacked iPhone, I'd get rid of my iPhone and iTouch and buy a Droid in a heartbeat.
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    I don't understand why Sony is being so hard on hackers. As long as you don't pirate anything, and I don't think most hackers do, how does it affect Sony at all?
    "In computer networking, a Media Access Control address (MAC address) is a unique identifier assigned to most network adapters or network interface cards (NICs) by the manufacturer for identification, and used in the Media Access Control protocol sub-layer." (1)

    "The Macintosh, or Mac, is a series of several lines of personal computers designed, developed, and marketed by Apple Inc." (2)



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    Quote Originally Posted by lightmaster View Post
    I don't understand why Sony is being so hard on hackers. As long as you don't pirate anything, and I don't think most hackers do, how does it affect Sony at all?
    My point exactly. Sony is being a narrow-minded control freak
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    Well past is past.... Think about the future... So What Sony banned people from PSN... At least u can go online so there may be a way of getting around sony's ban and just get people to create fake PSN servers this way they can't do **** cause they have done what they could do with their power which was to ban people ... Cause I'm sure they can't say anything about having a fake PSN server cause we ain't using there's .. also they don't have the rights to say how we should and should not use our banned ps3.. I guess people should post ideas how to over come or tackle this banning staff instead of moaning and groaning because as much as you moan or groan they ain't going to un-ban people ..... Just think about the positive effect it has had ... They won't have the control they thought they had by banning for life..,. Btw it should be possible to have a fake PSN application because if you can install home brew then you should be able to add custom application on ps3

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    Quote Originally Posted by zturn13 View Post
    If you use a HDD that is not approved but microsoft they can ban you if you hack in any way they can ban you at least sony lets me by a normal laptop hard drive and put it in and not charge thro the nose for a "special" hdd but this lifetime ban is stupid i thought jail breaking was legal now or is that just idevices??
    It isn't the same thing. On the surface it appears to be the same.

    You can't jailbreak your iphone and then hack into ATT to make phone calls. You need to be a customer with an account in order to make phone calls and use their network. You should be able to change themes or add apps that make your iphone more functional for you. But if you are using the iphone as a phone, you need to be established as a customer.

    Once you have installed ultrasn0w, you could switch to T-mobile or have dual accounts, (one with ATT and one with T-mobile). But, here again, if you set up an account with ATT in order to get the sale price on the iphone, you are contractually obligated for 2 years to them for your account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lightmaster View Post
    I don't understand why Sony is being so hard on hackers. As long as you don't pirate anything, and I don't think most hackers do, how does it affect Sony at all?
    The main reason most people want to hack anything is to either modify or pirate something... What makes you think that most console hackers do not pirate? There's a reason why piracy has become such a huge problem the past ten years. From music to video games to apps, piracy will always be a main problem for any company that is dependent on digital sales.

    As for the ban Sony is initiating, too many of you are being overly irrational. Sony is banning you from THEIR network, which is offered for FREE. Gamers get banned all the time from servers, networks, mmorpgs, and even from Steam. Do the majority of gamers complain? No, because banning gamers that hack or modify gameplay completely ruins the game. Simply put, companies are allowed to ban you from their services if they wanted to for any reason, especially if you're violating the ToS. Hackers still own their PS3s, they just cannot use Sony's network. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skolpo View Post
    The main reason most people want to hack anything is to either modify or pirate something... What makes you think that most console hackers do not pirate? There's a reason why piracy has become such a huge problem the past ten years. From music to video games to apps, piracy will always be a main problem for any company that is dependent on digital sales.

    As for the ban Sony is initiating, too many of you are being overly irrational. Sony is banning you from THEIR network, which is offered for FREE. Gamers get banned all the time from servers, networks, mmorpgs, and even from Steam. Do the majority of gamers complain? No, because banning gamers that hack or modify gameplay completely ruins the game. Simply put, companies are allowed to ban you from their services if they wanted to for any reason, especially if you're violating the ToS. Hackers still own their PS3s, they just cannot use Sony's network. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
    Exactly Wat I mean just think about the advantages you can take cause u still own your banned ps3... As I mentioned before about the fake PSN why not create something like Tunggle so it's possible to play online even if you have pirated games there's no one to judge you.

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    An then people say Apple wants to control everything. In consumer point of vue i guess this time SONY is the bad guy. Imagine if everyone jailbreaking an idevice would get a lifetime ban.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sziklassy View Post
    Sony (nor any gaming system manufacturer) doesn't make money on the hardware. In actuality, they take a loss. Where they make it up is software sales. THAT is why piracy is such a touchy subject to them.
    Lol I know, I never said they made money, just that its supporting them by buying their product. My point was that you already have a good working console and it would suck to have to get a new one (spend money) just cause they ban you

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    Quote Originally Posted by skolpo View Post
    The main reason most people want to hack anything is to either modify or pirate something... What makes you think that most console hackers do not pirate? There's a reason why piracy has become such a huge problem the past ten years. From music to video games to apps, piracy will always be a main problem for any company that is dependent on digital sales.

    As for the ban Sony is initiating, too many of you are being overly irrational. Sony is banning you from THEIR network, which is offered for FREE. Gamers get banned all the time from servers, networks, mmorpgs, and even from Steam. Do the majority of gamers complain? No, because banning gamers that hack or modify gameplay completely ruins the game. Simply put, companies are allowed to ban you from their services if they wanted to for any reason, especially if you're violating the ToS. Hackers still own their PS3s, they just cannot use Sony's network. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
    Not all hackers of the PS3 want to pirate stuff!! What is is with everyone thinking that?!

    I would say that 80% of people that hack the PS3 do it for piracy, but that other 20% dosent want anything with piracy. The only reason that I want to hack my PS3 is to run homebrew apps and such
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    Quote Originally Posted by red_zone View Post
    Not all hackers of the PS3 want to pirate stuff!! What is is with everyone thinking that?!

    I would say that 80% of people that hack the PS3 do it for piracy, but that other 20% dosent want anything with piracy. The only reason that I want to hack my PS3 is to run homebrew apps and such
    But right there is the problem. A lot of revenue is made from game sales, so imagine if sales were cut by 80% because of pirates? Big problem. Even with the iPhone, many people jailbreak to pirate apps. If you see you can buy something for $60 or get it for free, most will jump at free. I commend GeoHot for building the jailbreak without the ability to pirate; THAT is good. But I think we can all understand why Sony is going after jailbreakers because it will inevitably lead to the pirating of a big piece of their profits...
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    Thumbs down This isn't right...
    I think I can understand pirating, but I don't think Sony should crack down on everyone's freedom. If game developers don't like piracy, then they should start protecting their own games like the NDS series of Kingdom Hearts. Jailbreaking anything is mainly so they take the product and give it things that are great ideas for an update, but the main developers aren't making it. They're not ruining it, they're simply making it better. I think for the different tweaks, themes, and apps that we're making should be an inspiration to the main developers to make their own tweaks similar and more native to their software. When it comes to the PS3, being able to install another OS was amazing. It really made the slogan "It only does everything" come true because with another OS you could do anything, but then they deleted OtherOS. If you didn't like that then you couldn't sign in to their network, and what can you do without PSN? Play disc based games and only use local multiplayer, no Netflix, no Hulu, no chatting with friends or even seeing if they're online, and a lot more you can't do. Imagine back then when it was $600 and you soft-mod it a bit and then this happens. You'd get banned and the only things you could do was to play disc based games, play blu-rays, play DVDs, and that's it. There must be a better solution for this issue, like I said before, if the problem is piracy then game developers should protect their own games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red_zone View Post
    Not all hackers of the PS3 want to pirate stuff!! What is is with everyone thinking that?!

    I would say that 80% of people that hack the PS3 do it for piracy, but that other 20% dosent want anything with piracy. The only reason that I want to hack my PS3 is to run homebrew apps and such
    I said most hackers. You don't consider 80% as most?


    Quote Originally Posted by Cucumbijuana View Post
    I think I can understand pirating, but I don't think Sony should crack down on everyone's freedom. If game developers don't like piracy, then they should start protecting their own games like the NDS series of Kingdom Hearts. Jailbreaking anything is mainly so they take the product and give it things that are great ideas for an update, but the main developers aren't making it. They're not ruining it, they're simply making it better. I think for the different tweaks, themes, and apps that we're making should be an inspiration to the main developers to make their own tweaks similar and more native to their software. When it comes to the PS3, being able to install another OS was amazing. It really made the slogan "It only does everything" come true because with another OS you could do anything, but then they deleted OtherOS. If you didn't like that then you couldn't sign in to their network, and what can you do without PSN? Play disc based games and only use local multiplayer, no Netflix, no Hulu, no chatting with friends or even seeing if they're online, and a lot more you can't do. Imagine back then when it was $600 and you soft-mod it a bit and then this happens. You'd get banned and the only things you could do was to play disc based games, play blu-rays, play DVDs, and that's it. There must be a better solution for this issue, like I said before, if the problem is piracy then game developers should protect their own games.
    Protecting from piracy shouldn't be solely left to the developers. PS3 needs developers to generate more titles for their console, especially exclusive titles. If they mandated that developers have to protect their own games from piracy, that can shoo them away from developing games for the PS3. Not to mention, there are many workarounds for any type of soft "protection."

    And like stated, modify or hacking your PS3 is risk-taking. Sony has all the right to ban hackers from their network. Hackers create many more problems than just being able to utilize a different OS or have modified UIs and apps. Once they take the hacking into the network, it can easily destroy the community within it. From piracy to score hacking to item modifying, the essential problem isn't being to use another OS. There is much more to it. And don't forget that their network is free. Even if there was some sort of premium to pay, banning is not out of the question. It still happens all the time in different paid networks or games. I don't see why the same shouldn't be allowed to be applied by Sony.
    Last edited by skolpo; 02-19-2011 at 12:14 PM.

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    Well to get around this just means more sales for them. Buy two of every device. One that will get banned and one that will not. Two of everything.

    This won't stop the diehard jailbreakers. Hacking to me means doing illegal things with the device, jailbreaking mean doing things that aren't illegal but make the device better without hurting anyones bottom line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sticky111 View Post
    ummm no! the reason they are doing this is not for some hacker to diddle with firmware and install software, apps and such. This has to deal with games like SOCOM confrontation and Call Of Duty and many other titles that are being ruined by wannabe hackers and modders using their created material to put a bad name on them. people are using good for bad and now those particular two titles are no longer fun to play because people are running around with unlimited ammo, health and weapons that dont even exist. this ban sony is issuing is going straight to these a-holes and i couldnt be happier. visit SOCOM DOT COM and see how many people are happy for what sony is doing because they regained hope in a 'cheater free' online environment



    everyone is getting confused as to what they are actually doing, visit a gaming forum on sony dot com and really read as to what this is all about. this has nothing to do with geo hot and stuff like that. it has to deal with modded files and people cheating horrendously on video games like socom and call of duty
    Still ***.
    Then why don't they just disalloemw lobbies online but let them in private matches. Just face it, MW2 is turning ****, how else are we going to have fun?

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    but you can get unbanned.

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