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    Default Thanks to iPad, Apple is Now #3 in PC Sales


    Thanks to Apple's much-adored tablet, the company has skyrocketed over the past year in computer sales, becoming the #3 computer manufacturer worldwide.

    According to a new report, the tablet helped Apple secure a 19% fourth-quarter growth in sales, and an incredibly impressive 241% year-over-year growth. With just 3.8% of the total computer sales worldwide in Q4 2009, the new results show that Apple sold 10.8% of all PCs, when you include the tablet in the figures. That number just edges out Dell, making Apple the new #3 PC Manufacturer in the world.

    The report comes from the company Canalys, who controversially decided to include all tablets in their market research. Ahead of Apple in the numbers are Acer, which saw an 8.8% percent growth, and HP which shipped 18.7 million units in Q4. Their year-over-year growth did slip to 2.9%, however companies such as Dell and Lenovo still experienced double-digit growth.

    There is sure to be controversy in the company's inclusion of tablets, including the iPad. Issuing a statement on that topic specifically. Canalys' claims that tablets and computers are one and the same.

    "Any argument that a pad is not a PC is simply out of sync… with screen sizes of seven inches or above, ample processing power, and a growing number of applications, pads offer a computing experience comparable to notebooks. They compete for the same customers and will happily coexist."
    With even more tablets expected to be sold in 2011, it seems that this controversy will continue, with the line between mobile device and portable computer being blurred more and more. Regardless, the evidence is clear, if one does consider the tablet a computer, than Apple is poised to garner even more of the market share if their iPad and Macs continue to sell at rapid rates.

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    Bring on the iPad 2!!!! I am ready! And to buy it with my credit card cash rewards program for FREE. Even better!!

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    LOL what? Why is the iPad (or any tablet) being considered a pc?

    The main difference is primary use. iPad is a device made for consumption. A PC, for production. There really is not argument here. Try and PRODUCE something on iPad as elegantly as you would on a desktop/laptop. It simply isn't going to happen. Next we will consider big screen TVs with web apps built in a PC sale... I mean they are over 7 inches and have the computing power, right?
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    No iDevices should be classed as PC's

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    Agree, iPad should not be considered a Personal Computer.
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    Their are many resins why the iPad is not a PC one is that the iPad has no North bridge.

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    The iPad is not a PC period

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    If you want to get into debating the use of the term "PC" (which has historically changed quite a bit) that's one thing. But these devices ARE computers. They are consumer devices that run modern microprocessors, with modern components, and modern (arguably next-generation) operating systems. People can use them in much the same way a "traditional" computer is used. Many people even prefer them to such a computer, as is evidence by their remarkable sales. Which is part of the point of this report. If you start to consider that people are using "post-PC" devices like PCs, then from a market analysis perspective it makes more sense to group them together. How you interpret the term "PC" has little bearing on this.
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    Making it's way up the totem pole. Nice!

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    When jailbroken, an iPad can just about approch a PC. Things like an actual way to access the filesystem goes some way towards this goal - we don't all live in our mailboxes or cloud storage. But nonetheless - as mentioned above - productivity is low. A friend of mine has recently purchased a Bluetooth keyboard so he can write faster on his iPad. Surely having to balance two separate objects is more cumbersome than a light macbook or similar?

    When not jailbroken, the iPad is essentially a toy. Sophisticated, stylish and expensive, but little more than a toy.

    (I don't mean to belittle iPads in a general way - I am simply referring to iPads in comparison with PCs, whether they be Windows, Macs or Linux PCs.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by spazturtle View Post
    Their are many resins why the iPad is not a PC one is that the iPad has no North bridge.
    That's an interesting comparison, since modern CPUs have mostly done away with anything that would have resembled a traditional north bridge, moving the functionality on core. This is done to a much greater extent in mobile processors to make what's called a System on Chip (SoC). Just because you condense the functionality to a single chip doesn't mean it isn't there anymore.

    Things will blur even more when Microsoft releases Windows 8 for ARM, and you've got the same operating system running on "PCs" and "Non-PCs". Is an ARM Windows 8 laptop no longer a PC because it has an integrated memory controller?
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    Ya i agree, it needs OSX. That would be awesome.

    Also the fact that you need a laptop or a computer to sync your iPad to, makes it so you need both. the iPad is not self sufficient. Its a toy and i love it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinygerbil View Post
    A friend of mine has recently purchased a Bluetooth keyboard so he can write faster on his iPad.
    That reminds me how much easier it got typing on my desktop computer when I finally got a keyboard for it...
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    Like many others have said, iPad is NOT a PC. Now I will be getting an iP 2 when it's available but I won't be calling it a PC.

    I just bought a new Apple PC! Oh yeah, what did you get an MBP, MBA, MB, iMac? No I got the new iPad! That's not a PC

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    Now if Apple allowed flash, perhaps the boundary between iPad and PC would shorten

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    I fail to see how an iPad is not a PC
    you can do internet browsing, word processing, install terminal, write music, play games, jailbreak it, mod it, theme it, take it apart, put it back together and put it in a blender.
    what do PC's have that i didn't just list?
    besides being upgradeable, but even some PCs lack that feature
    Sure iOS is limited, but only by the motivation of the devs
    if someone wanted to bad enough, and had the know how, they could write drivers for the iPad and install any OS they wanted
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    Man, I own an iPad, I've jailbroken it, installed nano and done terminal stuff with it, customized the death out of it, and I totally love it for its uses, but in my humble opinion this thing should in no way be considered alongside PC sales. In reality, all it has going for it is a large screen, and that does NOT make it comparable to other real tablet PCs at all. Its running on a scaled-up smartphone OS for crying out loud.

    What makes a PC count as a PC? Its all in the OS, baby. iOS doesn't cut it.

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    I really hate these articles. The argument isnt even worth energy used to type this sentence out - but I digress.

    iPads are not, nor will they ever be, by design, a replacement for a computer. Because it isnt the equivalent of - there should never be a chart or similar item presented that suggests that an iPad counts toward PC sales/distribution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dale2 View Post
    I fail to see how an iPad is not a PC
    you can do internet browsing, word processing, install terminal, write music, play games, jailbreak it, mod it, theme it, take it apart, put it back together and put it in a blender.
    what do PC's have that i didn't just list?
    besides being upgradeable, but even some PCs lack that feature
    Sure iOS is limited, but only by the motivation of the devs
    if someone wanted to bad enough, and had the know how, they could write drivers for the iPad and install any OS they wanted
    yea those functions are on pc as well but you cant run applications that require really cpu power, you cant even run certain videos on the ipad under vlc because the processor is not fast enough.

    i think the line is drawn at what os the device runs, the ipad still runs an ios and a pc would run Mac osx.

    i dont think the ipad should be included in the pc category for this reason, i always tell people that ask me if they should get an ipad, it doesnt replace a laptop it just complements one
    You don't like the iPad because you don't have one!

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    I'll give credit where it's due. Apple has done extremely well with their iOS devices.
    That said the iPad is far from being a pc. Lets see how well this sounds.
    Consumer goes to local bestbuy.

    Customer: I need a pc

    Sales Rep: What will you be doing with the pc?

    Customer: Mostly school work, Email, a few video games, movies, music.

    Sales Rep: Great, You need the new Apple iPad.

    Customer: Show it to me please.

    Sales Rep: Here it is, Amazingly thin & light.

    Customer: WOW that is really nice looking. Where do I connect the mouse & keyboard?

    Sales Rep. You don't, All touch screen.

    Customer: Nice. Where do I hook up my camera to save pics?

    Sales Rep: Well you buy this camera kit for 29.00

    Customer: Well where do I connect my phone to sync it & a printer?

    Sales Rep: Look buddy it's a pc. You think it's going to let you connect a phone, keyboard, mouse, printer, install any software from the internet, download music/movies from any place other than itunes? Get real this 2011. & to use it to it's fullest you will need another pc to sync it.
    If I can't mod it...I don't want it.

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