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Originally Posted by CynicalDriver By your standards: •Macs don't compete with PCs •MacBooks don't compete with Laptops •iPhones don't compete with smartphones •iPods don't compete with MP3 players •OSX doesn't
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    Quote Originally Posted by CynicalDriver View Post
    By your standards:
    •Macs don't compete with PCs
    •MacBooks don't compete with Laptops
    •iPhones don't compete with smartphones
    •iPods don't compete with MP3 players
    •OSX doesn't compete with Windows
    I still fail to see how that's the argument I'm making. I have no experience with Macs, but on the iPhone argument: I agree that they do compete with today's smartphones. They have a purpose of making a call, but include the extra features of web browsing, email, mms, and the like. The hardware is nearly identical: camera, one headphone jack, touch display, etc.

    However, change the hardware of that smartphone to include a tactile keyboard. What does it become? A messaging phone. The iPhone is not a messaging phone. See how changing the hardware can change the category?

    My argument is more like:
    An iPod Nano does not compete with a [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZEN_Vision:M]Creative ZEN Vision M[/ame], because they are two different classes: one, an MP3 player with small storage and a small screen, the other, a PMP (portable media player) with a slightly larger screen, support for video out, and much larger storage.

    That's the argument that I am making that a Macbook Air is not in the netbook class; it has different intended features and different hardware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by athleticswimmer View Post
    that just might be it....ive never used a MBA but to me the specs and price just dont match up because, like you said, some people need alot of "horse power" for video/audio editing. and the Air boots up in 20 sec....gotta see it to believe it?
    When the specs first came out I laughed... I saw a 1.4Ghz processor and said "forget it!". Then I started to read the tech reviews and how snappy they said this thing was and it caught my interest. Finally I went down to the Apple store and put a MBP and the 11" Air side by side and did the same basic tasks as listed above and to my surprise the Air responded better because of the SSD. I took a stop watch to the boot time and got 20 seconds... shut down time... 2 seconds lol. I was in love So 2 weeks later I got my very own with 4GB RAM and the 1.6Ghz processor with 128GB HD. I have a custom built PC with 4 TB drive space for all my music and video which I stream to all my iDevices and my Air with no issues wether remotely or on my WIFI network. I recommend going to the store when you get a change to see it for yourself first hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxRabbit View Post
    I still fail to see how that's the argument I'm making. I have no experience with Macs, but on the iPhone argument: I agree that they do compete with today's smartphones. They have a purpose of making a call, but include the extra features of web browsing, email, mms, and the like. The hardware is nearly identical: camera, one headphone jack, touch display, etc.

    However, change the hardware of that smartphone to include a tactile keyboard. What does it become? A messaging phone. The iPhone is not a messaging phone. See how changing the hardware can change the category?
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    So the Droid isn't a smartphone? You've just relegated it to "glorified texter" status, lmao!

    A "messaging phone" runs a standard cell-phone style OS, they just add a full keyboard, HUGE difference. They also don't have app stores, mostly crappy java games that cost way too much on a "provider store" which is a nice way of saying "rip-off counter."

    I see the problem now, you don't give any "standard" categories any credit, only YOUR idea of those categories.

    My argument is more like:
    An iPod Nano does not compete with a [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZEN_Vision:M]Creative ZEN Vision M[/ame], because they are two different classes: one, an MP3 player with small storage and a small screen, the other, a PMP (portable media player) with a slightly larger screen, support for video out, and much larger storage.

    That's the argument that I am making that a Macbook Air is not in the netbook class; it has different intended features and different hardware.
    That's a VERY bad comparison! The Zen Vision M is designed to compete with a full size iPod, NOT the iPod nano.

    Since you love sources so much...
    Here:
    Zen/iPod: http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3000_7-6417634-1.html
    Smartphones: http://cell-phones.toptenreviews.com/smartphones/
    Messaging Phones: http://reviews.cnet.com/4321-6454_7-6647111.html
    Laptop Classes: http://www.suite101.com/content/lapt...erence-a249230

    Notice the last link. Read it, and pay special attention to the "Ultra-Portable" section, which squarely pegs a MacBook Air. Also, note the "commonly referred to as 'netbooks'" bit, I love that part the most.

    Update your own definitions/classes/categories to what everyone else already knows and we can stop this ridiculous Apple-classing thing that Steve Jobs is pushing for. Whether you own a Mac or not, you are defining things the way he would like you to. It allows his products to look superior because you can say "It's not a netbook, it's a MacBook Lite!"

    Newsflash: "Netbooks" ARE "Lite" notebooks!
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