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07-01-2010, 03:04 PM #41
Doesn't bother me one way or another.
07-01-2010, 03:30 PM #42
[QUOTE=Bluprint;5323458]Nothing It might be dead to you perhaps because you have no technology to support it. Your probably that mac freak that lives in a basement.
hahahaha POOR PEOPLE ALWAYS THINK THAT EVERYONE IS LIKE THEM,IS BASEMENT CLEAN? CUZ I DONT STAY IN MY BASEMENT ONLY YOU WOULD KNOW WHAT IS LIKE TO STAY IN THE BASEMENT HAHAHAHAHAHAH.
07-01-2010, 03:32 PM #43
Steve Jobs once said 'people just aren't using DVDs any more.' So then why do all Macs have them? Why not give an option for a BD / DVD burner and just let people decide?
I love Apple but it drives me nuts when they justify decisions with random reasons that just don't make any sense... especially when the truth is that they just don't want to pay the licensing. So fine, just say that and let that be it... don't say 'it's a dying format' just because your company doesn't make blu-ray discs.
07-01-2010, 03:59 PM #44
It hink that Stevie here isn't giving the people what they want because even when people get what they want, they only want more, I know this is completely irrelevant what I'm about to say, but look at the Droid owners, they JUST got Android 2.1 and now they want 2.2. Mr. Jobs is just not giving the people what they want because even if they get what they want, they won't be happy, they'll only want more, and Jobs would rather have these people be pissed and bitchy rather than greedy
07-01-2010, 04:34 PM #45
Blu Ray is mainly for the PS3 and games need Blu Ray, unless you have a super fast broadband connection and can download 35GB and more games in the future with ease, Blu Ray will be needed.
Until Mac's can do proper full HD gaming, Blu Ray is not needed.
07-01-2010, 04:36 PM #46
I agree with 'jbardi' the US ISP companies are making people think they are getting High Speed internet when in other countries that would be like dial-up for them. The ISP in the US are capable of provide real High Speed Internet they are just to greedy. This is what we are able to get without a cap..
07-01-2010, 04:46 PM #47
@ Jbardi - remember watching Indiana Jones - The Temple of Doom Director's Cut on 3 Laserdiscs with sides A & B on each? Gr8 memories (right)
Honestly, if I want to invest in a dying, dead, whatever format, why can it not be my own friggin' choice? I wanna have full 1080P on my 55" Samsung, but I'd love to use my Mac as a player because I personally don't want a dedicated unit for those few cinema evenings at home. Now before anyone goes rampant on how stupid, inefficient or whatever that may be: You're not me, and it's my opinion/choice. Did ya hear Steve?
07-01-2010, 06:32 PM #48
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07-01-2010, 06:38 PM #49Wtf??
Why the hell would i want to download HD movies from my iphone on AT&T's LIMITED internet access. Is it just me or does that just sound DUMB as hell??!!
07-01-2010, 07:31 PM #50
So if "Blu-ray" is not worth the effort then why even bother with a much outdated DVD-DL in my MacBookPro. What a joke. Why should Steve get to tell me that i don't need "Blu-ray" burning capability. Shouldn't I get to decide that? In Australia not everybody has UNLIMITED internet bandwidth like in the US, so a lot of crap like "AppleTV" & "TiVo" are really useless in this country. I really hate how Apple will bring out these amazing devices and then spoil them by not adding features that are "Standard" every other device such as "Blu-ray" (Macs) and USB (iPad).
07-01-2010, 07:36 PM #51Why?
I think everyone is missing the point of this. It is not really about which format is better, but the option that is not being provided. Apple should let the user decide if they want blu-ray or not, instead of cramming the word "NO" down their throat. Maybe discs will go away evenly or maybe a new medium will come out, but the facts are:
- We are in the US (Slow download speeds comparatively)
- Streaming is just not there yet. (Quality, fast download, popularity, etc)
- No guarantee that you will ALWAYS have internet. (Outages, storms, etc)
- Discs are easier for most people. (Red Box)
- Blu-ray is still not the dominate disc format.
- Blu-ray is still costly.
- Some people like having physical media of some kind.
- DVD's will die regardless.
Those are the facts and you can take them how you like. The point is that we live in the US and as long it is a democracy and their are options then their will ALWAYS be more than one way to consume.
Personally I like both! I like streaming for the fact that I don't have to go anywhere if I decide I want to watch a movie, but I prefer the quality of Blu-ray completely. Even if movies were no longer on Blu-ray format I would still want to use it as a backup medium. I would prefer to actually have all my movies on one big server that I can just pick the one want, but I am not about to wait for it to download. (At least not HD) I do like the fact that they have started adding digital copies when you buy a Blu-Ray movie, which is nice. (I would still like to see a greater quality from it though.)
If you want to stream, then stream and if you want a Blu-ray, then buy one.
Well that's my two sense. : )
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07-01-2010, 07:53 PM #52
I don't think digital will kick off till ISPs take back the throttled data caps. I would love to stream all I want but there are some ISPs that put limits on how much you can download for the month. This is a big problem with the digital movement.
I am all for the digital movement but as it stands right now the status of ISPs are to mixed up to get a good start on it.
07-01-2010, 09:37 PM #53
Also, that major crisis in the gulf is anything but a crisis. It looks to me like a great opportunity to create jobs (cleanup and repair) to help fight the high unemployment.
5-8 years is more than enough time to justify supporting blue ray.
Let's start getting FTTH going nationwide and then we can look at downloading and streaming 1080p.
07-01-2010, 11:53 PM #54
All printable media is going the way of the dodo. This includes Blu-Ray. Everything will go digital and as Flash drives get smaller in size with larger capacity there will be no need for optical drives at all. That's just for storing media offline.
Streaming will get better as compression techniques get better too. There just needs to be a more unified format. The industry needs to let go of DRM because it doesn't ever work and there's always a way around it anyway. Sites like Hulu, Netflix, and Youtube are the future.
Paying obscene amounts of money for hardware thats obsolete in 6 months is ridiculous, especially when it comes to Blu-Ray players, 60"+ HD plasma/LCD/LED displays.
Don't even get me started on how stupid people look wearing 3D glasses in their living room. Welcome back to 1985?
07-02-2010, 12:22 AM #55
They can put whatever they want into their machines. They'll sell. If it takes more engineering effort, why bother?
The only reason Apple releases a new phone and a new iOS every year is because they have to have SOMETHING. What happens when every customer in the world has your product? What do you sell? "A new version of it!" The only reason we finally got multitasking is...what else was there to add? Think about next year--the "big" thing will probably be a revamped notifications system.
This is the same thing with Blu-Ray. Until Apple runs out of new features and hardware to put in their machines (don't say blah-blah-blah-upgraded-specs, don't forget about multitouch trackpad, magic mouse, SD card slots...), we won't see Blu-Ray.
And, just the same, I think someday (far, FAR away) we will see Flash on the iPhone. But only after every other feature has been added, and they need SOME gimmick to sell next year's phone.
07-02-2010, 03:06 AM #56
Yes good idea idiot. I have a 2mb connection and to get anything faster I would need to move property.
My allowance is 40gb per month...um no thanks blu ray it is for me.
Steve Jobs is a twonk...end of.
07-02-2010, 09:57 AM #57
07-02-2010, 09:58 AM #58
I agree that Blue Ray is a fad, it's a format that was pushed onto alot of people via playstation 3. It's not to compare video format with the audio format. Yes digital music basically ran the CD out of town, but video had a quality issue that audio didn't have to really worry about.
07-02-2010, 11:13 AM #59
People are idiots. No matter how successful streaming media becomes, even if it ultimately replaced DVD, we STILL need a STANDARD physical format for recording, transport, and playback of HD media. DUH. It doesn't have to replace DVD to have a reason to exist. CDs still exist, do they not? The way people are talking in this thread, they don't. *roll eyes*
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07-02-2010, 11:38 AM #60