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My hubmle opinion is that the viruses are made for purchasing anti-virus software... Who made those viruses? Why are the viruses mostly made for windows users? I think it's only
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    My hubmle opinion is that the viruses are made for purchasing anti-virus software... Who made those viruses? Why are the viruses mostly made for windows users? I think it's only because windows users are most common users. Bigger community bigger money!!!

    P.S. I've saved my self migrating to a Mac

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    Quote Originally Posted by dennder View Post
    You guys probably do not differentiate viruses, trojans, rootkits and hacking itself.

    Even pentagon got hacked, so there is no one in the damn world to tell which OS is safer.
    Rootkit is the exploit in the system, so there is no difference again.
    But viruses and trojans, which require user-side interaction... UNIX-like OS' are less prone to virus attacks (Mac OS or Linux does not matter), it is the matter of architecture, cuz unlike in windows, any such software on nix would require root access, which is impossible without user entering root (or sudo) password. Windows, even in Vista/7 does not, while within XP it is enough to be in administrators group any such malware can install by itself, in Vista/7 only UAC saves you from such bull****, and as you all know, it is widely-known to disable the UAC for it is very annoying, which again makes you vulnerable.

    As some expert said some time ago (i don't recall his name), the weakest point in any OS' is in between the monitor and the chair.
    So far, the smartest answer. Techie & informative enough to enlight.
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    I can only speak for myslef... But I have NEVER had a problem with virus's, Trojans, etc...but I am pretty computer savy, an I know what to click on, what to download...and what not to click on or download. But I CONSTANTLY have friends calling me saying they have a virus, and they need me to clean out their computer... And they always "have no idea how they got it"... Haha. So ya my opinion is it doesn't matter what OS u r using, it's how u use it.

    As for anti-virus software.... I HATE it!! Soo annoying, runs tons of services and background tasks....slowing your system. Anti-virus software is worse than a virus!
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    ^I'm not sure if it is how you use your operating system. It is what you download and where you download. That's how you get them, not by how you use your operating system.
    Asking for help is different from being stupid. Fanboys can rot in @#$%!

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    the wrath will be judged on the MAC OS soon we shall wait patiently... lol

    mac OS is for slow minded people who have no guts... Windows r for ppl who got guts to keep it away from virus and make it work flawlessly.

    mac OS is capable of getting hacked its being done already and tested and proven! apple don't want to admitt it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAKIS-RULEZ View Post
    mac OS is for slow minded people who have no guts... Windows r for ppl who got guts to keep it away from virus and make it work flawlessly.
    You sir are a moron.

    And Mac OS is very old. Don't you mean "Mac OS X?"
    Asking for help is different from being stupid. Fanboys can rot in @#$%!

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    In a targeted attack, no OS is safer than another. Google is also moving to Linux, not just Mac OS, and they are developing their own Linux based OS as well.

    Funny that this could have been avoided simply by upgrading from a nine year old internet browser.
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    IE6?? Why are they using IE6 anyway?
    I bet Mac OS X will be more hackable than Windows 7 if it gets as popular as W7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAKIS-RULEZ View Post
    the wrath will be judged on the MAC OS soon we shall wait patiently... lol

    mac OS is for slow minded people who have no guts... Windows r for ppl who got guts to keep it away from virus and make it work flawlessly.

    mac OS is capable of getting hacked its being done already and tested and proven! apple don't want to admitt it.
    Pure LOL. This is why I waste time educating people about tech, since they have no idea what they are saying.

    You sir don't know anything about any operating system, or how to use one in fact. No one ever said Mac OS X is incapable of being hacked, they just harder to hack then windows.


    "Guts?"
    Windows r for ppl who got guts to keep it away from virus and make it work flawlessly.
    Why waste your time getting "away" from viruses in the first place?


    And to the Chrome OS statements, that OS is a complete joke. A OS browser, what a epic failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokesomesmeefer View Post
    A Mac in the hands of 99% of the worlds population is no more safer than a PC with Windows. The biggest threat to any computer's security is the idiot behind the keyboard.

    As long as Mac OS can only be installed on hardware that is overpriced by about 400%, it will never take a larger market share than Windows. As long as Windows has the largest market share, virus/malware writers will continue to target it more than Mac OS or Linux.
    Yes, good freaking job

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    Quote Originally Posted by eZStaR View Post
    This is why I waste time educating people about tech, since they have no idea what they are saying.
    Ohhhh the irony.
    Quote Originally Posted by confucious View Post
    Don't you love all this willy waving?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Success.Is.Sweet View Post
    Ohhhh the irony.
    Yup irony is you and a lot of people cant support their thoughts and opinions.

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    A recent survey carried out on behalf of the “Securing our eCity” community initiative, however, suggested that Mac (and, come to that, PC users) continue to see the Mac – or at any rate OS X – as a safe haven, while Apple seems wedded to the idea that it has no security problem.

    However, analysis of hundreds of samples received by our virus labs tells a different story. While the general decline of old-school viral malware is reflected in the Macintosh statistics, we are seeing no shortage of other malicious code including rootkits such as WeaponX, fake codec Trojans, malicious code with Mac-specific DNS changing functionality, Trojan downloading and installation capability, server-side polymorphism, fake/rogue anti-malware, keyloggers, and adware (which is often regarded as a minor nuisance, but can sometimes have serious impact on affected systems).


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    Surly they would go with Linux considering they already have the hardware and won't have to buy inferior Apple hardware right?

    I always considered the people over at Google to be pretty smart but it seems I was mistaken if they aren't already running everything through Linux.



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    Quote Originally Posted by riku98523 View Post
    Surly they would go with Linux considering they already have the hardware and won't have to buy inferior Apple hardware right?

    I always considered the people over at Google to be pretty smart but it seems I was mistaken if they aren't already running everything through Linux.
    i would really hope so with all things considered i mean the d@!^ android os is Linux based why not stay with what works for them. i thought google and apple hated each other but then business is business and as much as i dont like apple it is manly because of there overpricing,restrictiveness,and the smug Steve jobs my way or the highway attitude. but i have never really had the chance to work with many diff mac os so as far as i know it may be better for what they need so i cant really say we will just have to wait for what google decides.

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    I can tell just by the way some of you type and express your ideas that you are young, most likely too young to remember that prior to OSX, Mac OS (1-9) had plenty of viruses. Other less popular operating systems had even more viruses than Mac OS. That alone proves that you don't have to have the most popular OS to have the most viruses.

    Critics keep spouting security through obscurity, which is bs. The fact is that, even though there is malware for OSX, it is much safer than anything Windows. Mac OSX is in fact UNIX, as it is UNIX 03 certified. Any OS that is UNIX based, is by default more secure than Windows.

    Back to this LEAP.A "virus" you speak of, is in fact, not a virus. It is a Worm. A virus can self-execute, copy itself, and infect a computer just by opening any file/folder it is contained in.

    On the other hand, a worm, like the Leap.A needs user input to do it's thing. On a Mac, that means it needs the user to enter their admin username and password.

    Don't confuse a virus/trojan/worm/spyware, as they are all malware, but different from each other. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there are no/none/zero/nada/zip viruses for Mac OSX.

    Having said that, no Operating System is hack proof. NONE. Even though Macs have been hacked, it was through Local Access, meaning they had physical access to the machine. It wasn't a hack over the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSXrebel View Post
    I can tell just by the way some of you type and express your ideas that you are young, most likely too young to remember that prior to OSX, Mac OS (1-9) had plenty of viruses. Other less popular operating systems had even more viruses than Mac OS. That alone proves that you don't have to have the most popular OS to have the most viruses.

    Critics keep spouting security through obscurity, which is bs. The fact is that, even though there is malware for OSX, it is much safer than anything Windows. Mac OSX is in fact UNIX, as it is UNIX 03 certified. Any OS that is UNIX based, is by default more secure than Windows.

    Back to this LEAP.A "virus" you speak of, is in fact, not a virus. It is a Worm. A virus can self-execute, copy itself, and infect a computer just by opening any file/folder it is contained in.

    On the other hand, a worm, like the Leap.A needs user input to do it's thing. On a Mac, that means it needs the user to enter their admin username and password.

    Don't confuse a virus/trojan/worm/spyware, as they are all malware, but different from each other. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there are no/none/zero/nada/zip viruses for Mac OSX.

    Having said that, no Operating System is hack proof. NONE. Even though Macs have been hacked, it was through Local Access, meaning they had physical access to the machine. It wasn't a hack over the internet.
    A computer worm is a self-replicating malware computer program. It uses a computer network to send copies of itself to other nodes (computers on the network) and it may do so without any user intervention. This is due to security shortcomings on the target computer. Unlike a virus, it does not need to attach itself to an existing program. Worms almost always cause at least some harm to the network, if only by consuming bandwidth, whereas viruses almost always corrupt or modify files on a targeted computer.

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_worm]Computer worm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

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    Quote Originally Posted by iphnblues View Post
    A computer worm is a self-replicating malware computer program. It uses a computer network to send copies of itself to other nodes (computers on the network) and it may do so without any user intervention. This is due to security shortcomings on the target computer. Unlike a virus, it does not need to attach itself to an existing program. Worms almost always cause at least some harm to the network, if only by consuming bandwidth, whereas viruses almost always corrupt or modify files on a targeted computer.

    Computer worm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Whatever you want to call it, on OSX, it DOES need user intervention. If the user does not enter the Admin password, the malware can NOT infect the OS. AFAIK, there are still no Viruses for OSX.

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    i can watch all the porn i want on a mac. if i had windows computer i would have all this pop ups and rogue spyware :-D

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSXrebel View Post
    I can tell just by the way some of you type and express your ideas that you are young, most likely too young to remember that prior to OSX, Mac OS (1-9) had plenty of viruses. Other less popular operating systems had even more viruses than Mac OS. That alone proves that you don't have to have the most popular OS to have the most viruses.

    Critics keep spouting security through obscurity, which is bs. The fact is that, even though there is malware for OSX, it is much safer than anything Windows. Mac OSX is in fact UNIX, as it is UNIX 03 certified. Any OS that is UNIX based, is by default more secure than Windows.

    Back to this LEAP.A "virus" you speak of, is in fact, not a virus. It is a Worm. A virus can self-execute, copy itself, and infect a computer just by opening any file/folder it is contained in.

    On the other hand, a worm, like the Leap.A needs user input to do it's thing. On a Mac, that means it needs the user to enter their admin username and password.

    Don't confuse a virus/trojan/worm/spyware, as they are all malware, but different from each other. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there are no/none/zero/nada/zip viruses for Mac OSX.

    Having said that, no Operating System is hack proof. NONE. Even though Macs have been hacked, it was through Local Access, meaning they had physical access to the machine. It wasn't a hack over the internet.
    Really well said. I had mentioned Mac being UNIX based before but no one really seemed to know what that meant...
    Critics keep spouting security through obscurity
    Haha this thread almost consists 85% of those critics.

    Quote Originally Posted by iphnblues View Post
    A computer worm is a self-replicating malware computer program. It uses a computer network to send copies of itself to other nodes (computers on the network) and it may do so without any user intervention. This is due to security shortcomings on the target computer. Unlike a virus, it does not need to attach itself to an existing program. Worms almost always cause at least some harm to the network, if only by consuming bandwidth, whereas viruses almost always corrupt or modify files on a targeted computer.

    Computer worm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Yup.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hiram85 View Post
    i can watch all the porn i want on a mac. if i had windows computer i would have all this pop ups and rogue spyware :-D
    With Safari on a Mac OS X, any thing is possible ^_^
    There are many plugins, probably the size of firefox's which you can get for Safari. Most of the plugins are just amazing, better than what firefox has anyday, check it out yourself. Just read some of the descriptions.
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    And my personal favorite

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