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Originally Posted by dmt123 All the people saying that the techs should start to wear gloves are completely wrong, why do they have to conform and deal with the inconvenience
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmt123 View Post
    All the people saying that the techs should start to wear gloves are completely wrong, why do they have to conform and deal with the inconvenience of handling a computer in those conditions when you're the one who decided to be careless about where you put your ashtray. Besides, if you'd bother reading the posts from previous techs about the condition that the computers come to them, I guarantee you wouldn't like to handle that computer either.
    I smoke and I wouldn't want to work on them either. That crap can get really nasty. However, touching it is in no way hazardous to ones health if the proper PPE is worn. (For those who don't know PPE is Personal Protective Equipment ie. rubber gloves.) If Apple is going to cite hazardous conditions claims they better have provided rubber gloves or some other protection for their tech to work on computer components. If they were sued over this them not having something as simple as a dust mask available to employees to prevent dust inhalation could lose them that lawsuit in a heartbeat. Trust me on that. I work on $40 million aircraft and get all kinds of nasty fluids on me even while using my PPE, so I don't feel sorry for the people working on these computers. Contact with any residue in these computers won't hurt them unless they don't take proper precautions, end of story. This is a BS move by Apple.

    Quote Originally Posted by GTOpilot View Post
    So whats next? My mechanic going to refuse warranty service because the fluids in my car can be considered a bio-hazard?

    My furnace repair man going to deny me service because of soot buildup?

    If a computer comes to a tech that is dirty....from anything be it smoke or soda spills or a twinkie stuck in the fan....put on some gloves and give it a good cleaning first.

    This is something so ridiculously trivial I cannot even believe its become an issue.
    While I agree with you it's a bad move, the two examples you give are not related to this article. A mechanic is employed to remove and replace contaminated fluids from your car, and a furnace repair man is required to clean something that produces ashes. Computers do neither of those. Dust is a byproduct of being alive and having an enclosed space for living in, the smoke residue buildup (if this is even true) contributes to that and shouldn't be expected by a computer repairman. Doesn't make the job hazardous though. The chemicals in toilet bowl cleaner are more dangerous than this so called residue.
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    I agree with it. My dad smokes and hes getting older so I went to his house to help him paint. He smokes outside, and he likes to smoke in the bathroom, during his long stay in there. I walked in the bathroom to see what needed to be done to paint. The walls were almost orange in there. I took a paint scraper and scraped down on the wall in there, and it was like taking a layer of paint off but it was sticky gunk.
    I 100% agree that this would trash any computer. People that think its just smoke and it evaporates into the air, thats a joke. Its gummy tar residue.

    There were spider webs in the corner caked in sticky tar. I grabbed it with the paint scraper, it was like taffy, its completely disgusting. The main point of this isnt so much a bio-hazzard. I read this article somewhere else, and it was worded completely different. But its the tar residue that kills the computer for sure. And n00neimp0rtant. Its not blowing smoke into the keys..lol its the intake fan sucking it in to cool the board and blowing it out the exhaust side.

    You can easily speed up the process if you want to test it. turn your MBP on and spray a can of paint into the intake fan, same effect over time with this tar. gets all over everything, and when it dries its nasty as all hell.

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    another bio hazard would be all the semen collected on the inside of a keyboard from men jacking off to porn.
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    I agree with apple.

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    asinine
    This is getting a lil' ridiculous...

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    Quote Originally Posted by smuggler View Post
    another bio hazard would be all the semen collected on the inside of a keyboard from men jacking off to porn.
    Really? How many idiots ejaculate onto their screens/keyboards??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melech518 View Post
    Really? How many idiots ejaculate onto their screens/keyboards??

    Lmao for real.

    I personally agree with this. It is extremely well known that smoking cigarettes causes serious health problems, why anyone chooses to smoke them is literally beyond me. They are nothing but a health hazard to the smoker and whoever they choose to smoke around, and if Apple opened up a computer and it had the same gunk inside of it an older poster showed due to cigarette residue (which im sure still has some of the same carcinogenic chemicals as second hand smoke) and they choose not to fix it, that is their choice. Instead of b*tching and moaning over a Marlboro why dont you just stop smoking? Your choosing to destroy your body so why cant apple choose not to support your habit for the safety of their employees? It will save you many many years of a healthy life and with all the money you saved you could finally afford that new Mac you always wanted Apple does what they want and you get a new Mac and a new lease on life, everyone's happy
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    I'm pretty sure there would only be residue in your machine if you smoke a lot around your machine. But its still ridiculous.
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    Personally I think this is a load of frog ****
    there are more harmfull things just walking outside
    I think apple is just being
    over anal now I am a qualified computer technitian and a smoker I have had my compaq presario v6000 for nearly 3 years the whole 3 years I have been smoking next to it so after reading this
    about an hour ago I pulled my covers off and my keyboard witch has never been done there has never been a need to and I found absolutly no evidence of any sort of smoke residue the only thing I found was dust I am also just finishing pulling the bottom cover off my iBook G4 and I have had that for 2 years and I cannot again see any evidence of a smoke residue all I see is dust that's is easy fixed with an antistatic brush if it's even possible for ur mac to have a smoke residue in it it's gonna take allot longer than two years and it's easy fixed with a pair of latex or plastic gloves apple has to stop it's bs because soon it's fans will just give up on them and let Microsoft drive them into the dirt

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    Quote Originally Posted by setkeh View Post
    Personally I think this is a load of frog **** I think apple is just being
    over anal now I am a qualified computer technitian and a smoker I have had my compaq presario v6000 for nearly 3 years the whole 3 years I have been smoking next to it so after reading this
    about an hour ago I pulled my covers off and my keyboard witch has never been done there has never been a need to and I found absolutly no evidence of any sort of smoke residue the only thing I found was dust I am also just finishing pulling the bottom cover off my iBook G4 and I have had that for 2 years and I cannot again see any evidence of a smoke residue all I see is dust that's is easy fixed with an antistatic brush if it's even possible for ur mac to have a smoke residue in it it's gonna take allot longer than two years and it's easy fixed with a pair of latex or plastic gloves apple has to stop it's bs because soon it's fans will just give up on them and let Microsoft drive them into the dirt
    There are two keys on your keyboard that must have taken a lot of damage from all that smoking you've been doing. One is the "shift" key, and the other is the "." key. Perhaps you should invest in a new keyboard.

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    My keyboard is perfectly fine lol I am having no problems with it I only pulled it off the see if there was any of this so called smoke residue besides a wee bit of dust both my laptops and all my desktops are fine this Jase just been blown way out of proprtion by stupid tree hugging morons

    My keyboard is perfectly fine lol I am having no problems with it I only pulled it off the see if there was any of this so called smoke residue besides a wee bit of dust both my laptops and all my desktops are fine and there are five smokers in my house. this Has just been blown way out of proprtion by stupid tree hugging morons
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    Sounds like a class action lawsuit coming soon!!!

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    sounds like all you smokers have your panties tied in a knot

    anyone saying "apple is just doing this to look like they promote a greener world"

    you are retarded

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    Quote Originally Posted by setkeh View Post
    Personally I think this is a load of frog **** I think apple is just being
    over anal now I am a qualified computer technitian and a smoker I have had my compaq presario v6000 for nearly 3 years the whole 3 years I have been smoking next to it so after reading this
    about an hour ago I pulled my covers off and my keyboard witch has never been done there has never been a need to and I found absolutly no evidence of any sort of smoke residue the only thing I found was dust I am also just finishing pulling the bottom cover off my iBook G4 and I have had that for 2 years and I cannot again see any evidence of a smoke residue all I see is dust that's is easy fixed with an antistatic brush if it's even possible for ur mac to have a smoke residue in it it's gonna take allot longer than two years and it's easy fixed with a pair of latex or plastic gloves apple has to stop it's bs because soon it's fans will just give up on them and let Microsoft drive them into the dirt
    All I can say is I am AMAZED that as a computer technician, you failed to put any punctuation marks in that entire rant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xwinger View Post
    sounds like all you smokers have your panties tied in a knot

    anyone saying "apple is just doing this to look like they promote a greener world"

    you are retarded

    grow a brain and learn to accept things that you don't want to




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    I smoke, I do not smoke indoors though. As far as getting smoke residue inside the computer like that you would pretty much have to be smoking at least a pack a day in close proximity to the computer in a closed room with no ventilation what so ever. Sitting outside at a cafe with the person at the next table smoking will not show up on your computer.

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    I agree with apple on this one. I work with computers / xbox 360s and you can tell almost always when a certain item belongs to a smoker. There is always an abnormal amount of dust and residue on the components. Any kind of smoke is bad for electronics. However I dont think its enough to say its a "biohazard". But what do I know.

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    First off does the warranty terms and conditions have anything in there stating that smoking may void your warranty? Second, I'm sure there are a lot more germs on computers other than smoking. Do you think every single user washes their hands before using it? You never know where a persons hands have been but yet you want to worry about smoke? I used to smoke but I quit about 3 years ago but in my opinion this is just wrong.

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    No punctuation cuz I'm posting from an iPhone and I'm not asssing around with puctuation cuz I really couldent give a fat rats arse about it as for thoes images that looks like dust smoking doesent attract dust it's like saying that water attracts fire

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    Quote Originally Posted by xwinger View Post
    sounds like all you smokers have your panties tied in a knot

    anyone saying "apple is just doing this to look like they promote a greener world"

    you are retarded

    grow a brain and learn to accept things that you don't want to




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    Love that pic and link...no evidence that the residue is from smoking AND it tries to sell you air purifiers and stop smoking aids at the bottom....no ulterior motive there.

    Again, as I originally stated, if a computer came into be fixed and it did look like that and it was found to be directly from smoke...then I can possibly see a warranty issue.

    Yet if my machine comes in pristine with the exception of a smoke smell, then Apple is off their rocker.

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