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Originally Posted by rhekt apples snow leopard isnt competing with windows7 its dominating. remember snow came out before 7. sounds like a trailing effect. Snow Leopard is dominating? Windows 7...
11-18-2009, 11:43 AM #21
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11-18-2009, 11:46 AM #23
Why is 10.7 being released to COMBAT windows 7; why isn't it just "Apple to release 10.7 sooner than you think". I swear you people write this stuff just to set up "winblows" and "crapple" rants. *sigh*
11-18-2009, 12:05 PM #24
as for windows7 selling more copies of course
its quite common knowledge that there are more PC users in the world than MAC users. that would then translate into more sales. however what that DOESNT do is translate into a better product....hope this clears the air.killall Terminal
11-18-2009, 12:56 PM #25
Vista is bad for sure. Id stick with XP or go with win7. I have both mac and pc. Here is how I use them and my opinion:
Macbook pro – I don’t use this much because not much software I want is on it. I don’t like how MS office layout is on mac so I don’t use it for office task. Same with photoshop and playing with pictures. I play with a lot of pictures and don’t want to have to double click to open a pic, close it, and double click to open a new one. Since I don’t do music, I only use the mac for web and movies sometimes.
Pros about the mac – Looks good with its metal body. OS is graphically appealing.
Cons – Metal body gets annoyingly hot. Entire design is more form than function (common with most apple product). Almost broke my screen when trying to tilt the screen all the way back to get a better view. OS is limiting. Can’t customize much.
Windows machine – Custom built. This is important because buying from dell or whoever, they load tons of useless programs that will slow things down dramatically (can be the cause of most peoples frustration). I run photshop a lot on this and occasional adobe premier video editing. Run Autocad and 3d softwares for work.
Pros – Does everything I need. Supports all programs I need and want. Lots of games. Customizable with themes (can make it look like OSX if you want). Can upgrade to new hardware as needed (especially video cards for me since I always want the new ones that comes out). I can scan through pics in a flash by pressing the left or right arrow on the keyboard. If im listening to a song and then decide to watch a video, I can click the back button on my mouse (no special software needed) and it will go back to the previous file I opened (the song I listened to before playing the video)
Cons – See notes below.
My macbook pro crashes on me at random time. While surfing, I would get the grey screen asking me to restart. Remember, I only use this for basic task too…I don’t hate apple or jump ship because of this bad experience like some people do. My windows machine crash on me once when a hard drive failed. Other than that, blue screens are very rare, I swear. Same with my sister’s and girlfriend’s PCs. So with that, I don’t see how windows is so bad.
Windows are not cheap to buy. You pay hundreds to get the OS alone. Windows are in millions of computers at home and business. If windows is such a bad OS, why do so many people keep buying it? Wouldn’t they get fed up with the so call failure rate and go mac? As for businesses, if the windows machine kept failing on them then that’s really bad for business due to downtime and loss of productivity. They would switch to a more stable OS if this was the case. Are they switching? Not really. Cisco is still buying PCs for our employees. They will also buy macs if the employees want but very few choose mac on their own. Tons of retails use windows cash register machines. Schools, hospitals, and government buildings still use windows.
Apple has alot of tv ad selling their product and at the same time bashing microsoft and all pc users (linux included). Very mature of you apple...And when theres a problem with their OS, they quietly send updates.
As for virus...Mac don't have much virus or hacking. what kind of dumb hacker wants to hack mac? what are they going to gain? They want to plant their bots in an OS that has more coverage and presence. an OS that is in government buildings and big companys. Lots of valuable data to steal there.
I think people are only switching to mac because they had such a bad experience with PC (bloated ones from Dell or HP) or because they want to be with the “in” crowd. To me, the mac is a basic machine. Doesn’t do what I need it to do, software and hardware wise. Where’s the tv tuner? Card reader? Blueray? Fingerprint scanner? GPS? Most people are not computer savvy and only use computers for very basic task like internet, typing papers, some picture editing, and listening to music. Other than that, the typical user does not need anything else and thus, the mac is the perfect choice. If you edit videos or have a band, the mac is good for that too. Windows isn’t bad for video either. I edit dvd size videos from time to time without any problems.
That’s my take on it and I’m sure many windows haters will have something to say. I’m not choosing sides, im just using what works for me. I would like to hear what others have to say because my experience will be different. Plus I would like to learn a few tricks or features in OSX that I might have missed (especially browsing through pictures quickly without having to install additional picture programs. This would help a lot)
Reply or PM me. Rude comments welcomed.
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11-18-2009, 01:12 PM #27
This is awesome news. Apple is working on an update to Snow Leopard!!
I thought they'd all just been on holiday for a couple of months.
And we really need a smoking gun? I can tell you there will be a Windows 8 in the near future, and I don't need a smoking gun to tell you that
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11-18-2009, 01:24 PM #28
It's all about the kids. Years ago when I started teaching (early/mid 90s) kids hated Macs. No matter what, they hated them. "Macs suck", "Apple sucks", etc.
Now it's the opposite. ALL the kids want MacBooks. MacBook pros are a dream to them. OK, not all, but the "in crowd", the "cool kids"... say 90% of my students... want and dream about owning a Mac. It has little (often nothing) to do with performance, reliability or ease-of-use, just with buying image, brand, or snob factor.
We have a 2 year-old computer lab (Dells with XP Pro) with headsets and voice software so kids can record stories, dialogues, etc. It is always crashing, sometimes the SW, sometimes Windows itself. Ten years ago the kids would not have complained about Windows, but now all I hear is about how much Windows sucks, and why doesn't the district just get Macs like in the art lab. The change in perception is remarkable (thus, my remarks o.O). I think it all stems with the iPod and the "aura" the iPod gave Apple with the young crowd. I really can't believe the change in attitude.
I remember a couple of kids bought Zunes years ago.... I felt bad for them... everyone looked down on them. I remember one went right out and bought iPods after that.
Annnnnyhow, I really want to try Win7. If it works, I say "Use it!" (even if it's XP or 10.4)
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11-18-2009, 01:26 PM #29
people gotta know...plus just giving my 2 shiny cent on the whole thing
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11-18-2009, 03:00 PM #32
I was just using Win7 on my Macbook, I'm accustomed to OS X but Win7 is extremely solid. I would be using it now via Bootcamp if it would just partition my drive.
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11-18-2009, 03:22 PM #34
The idiot that said it was Microsofts fault because he had to send his CPU into HP is an idiot. The CPU is your processor only, not a single manufacturer refers to the computer as a whole that way, and haven't for years. Microsoft cannot cause a hardware failure no matter how much your biased feebleminded brain wants it to. People like you are reasons I love Macs and hate their rabid idiotic fans. Some asswipe on MacRumors even said that Bill Gates has caused more suicides than any other person or object in history. I consider your stupidity almost as bad as his. Most Mac fans can't think objectively, and your post proves it.
Nice try though.
11-18-2009, 03:59 PM #35
Windows 7 is supported and works with bootcamp but only if you are using the updated bootcamp that is in snow leopard. I think it's bootcamp 3.0 (anyone can correct me if i'm wrong about the version)
11-18-2009, 07:47 PM #36
I think snow leopard should of been an update. i have it and i feeds like its the vista of Mac nothing that new just some UI changes. so im going to stick with my Sony Vaio Running OSX86 With windows 7 and snow leopard installed.
11-18-2009, 10:06 PM #37
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11-19-2009, 04:44 AM #39
Wow... I can't believe that this thread brings out such a strong EMOTIONAL response from some of you guys...
All I said is that Vista has been nothing but a stomachache to me. Since I have been a long time user of Windows 95, 98, ME, XP, XP Pro, and now Vista I am quite comfortable with the drawbacks of a Windows build - the major one being that the OS pretty much goes to crap roughly every 365 days. Then a fresh install of the OS is needed - this is with quite a bit of maintenance and upkeep along the way.
I am in no way a 13 year old... lol... or a novice user. I think its rather cute how people become "HEROES" when they get behind a keyboard and start talking about something they have a rough knowledge about.
If Vista worked roughly as well as XP I would be fine... but it doesn't. Some people I talk to love it and some go on a stark raving mad rampage when I bring it up. I am not a fan (of Vista) and I personally do not want to take the chance by investing in another $200 build of Windows or getting a new machine.
----I have tested out Linux/Ubuntu and like it a lot! It comes with quite a bit of great free software and runs like a dream. I guess I just need to familiarize myself with it a little bit better because setting certain things up is a pain in the butt! Like wireless cards and (some) plug-in's. I will probably end up using Ubuntu as a Vista replacement on my desktop when I get the time to learn the OS.----
I personally choose to go the safe route and buy a Mac (next time I get a computer). Everyone I talk to loves their Mac - and no, they are not 13 year old boys playing with their daddy's computer - LOL.
If you don't like that and think I'm ignorant then fine, that's your prerogative. But I know what I want out of a computer and what is going to work best for me. Don't go flaming me just because I have my own opinion. Heck, I may buy a Mac and hate it... probably not... but anything is possible.
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