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09-29-2009, 12:32 PM #1
Apple Making a Habit of "Shovelware?"
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Apple's Software Update utility has been installing an enterprise iPhone profile management tool on Windows PCs that had accepted the default update suggestions, even if the users had never used an iPhone. Although Apple pulled the utility from the default list later Monday, some observers raised objections about Apple's seeming propensity to push unnecessary software on Windows users.
Users of Apple Software Update for Windows who accepted the suggested updates found the iPhone Configuration Utility - including an Apache web server - was installed onto their PCs Monday. The utility - as UK blogger Simon Bisson of itexpertmag.com noted in a Twitter update later that day - is actually an enterprise-grade tool for network administrators, who use it to create and deploy device profiles so users can securely connect to a company's Exchange mail servers.
This is not the first time Apple has been caught red-handed shoveling unnecessary software to Windows users of Apple Software Update, nor the first time they quietly removed the update without comment or explanation. In early 2008, users who had installed iTunes on their systems got Safari as a default update, even if they had never installed the Apple web browser. After the ensuing uproar, Apple changed the Updates list so that the browser was no longer included as a default.
Similarly, Apple removed the iPhone Configuration Utility from the default list by midday on the East Coast yesterday, but did not make any statement as to why the enterprise utility had been placed on the list in the first place.
Some [ame="http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1034678056&postcount=21"]observers[/ame] suggested the common-sense expedient of uninstalling Apple Software Update if they had a concern, or, similarly, checking the Updates list before clicking the Install button, and deselecting any unwanted items. However, the great majority of users may not be so cautious, and benefit from the ease of use of the Software Update tool. Apple risks alienating many users by forcing unwanted software on them, either by accident or by design.
09-29-2009, 12:43 PM #2
i still think people should look at the list before installing the software. maybe after reading this users will pay more attention?
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09-29-2009, 01:22 PM #4
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The idea behind this is simple. Put as much apple software on the Windows PC as possible, and the Windows user is more likely to buy a Mac the next time that Windows user buys a new computer.
I wonder what everyone would say if Microsoft said we could only install Windows on Microsoft hardware...
Or when the "Microsoft Phone" is introduced, will they limit WinMo 7 to only their hardware?
@Hollow0 @law111... if only the general public had the intelligence you're talking about
09-29-2009, 01:24 PM #5
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09-29-2009, 02:57 PM #8
So when are the companies that install ****** toolbars by default gonna get chastized?
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09-29-2009, 03:39 PM #9
Anyway what I'm trying to say is 2 things 1. Apple software that runs on PC wouldn't make me switch to mac because guess what the software I want is running on windows already and 2. Any Software the Apple develops is usually junk and you can get a universal version that runs on both Windows and Mac better than Apples version.
09-29-2009, 04:17 PM #10
Why would this encourage anyone to go buy a Mac? When I'm presented with default selections for unsolicited software that I'm not even remotely interested in, my first thought is that this is not a company I want to rely on.
I feel the same way about software that, by default, installs a browser toolbar. The only difference is that it's generally free software from small companies that are just trying to pay the bills. However in Apple's case I've shelled out a small fortune for an iPhone which locks me into iTunes with no other options, and iTunes installs this crappy update manager by default and then it tries to install a 100% completed unrelated software package (Safari) to me. This is beneath Apple........ or at least it used to be.
09-29-2009, 05:57 PM #11
The bottom line is this, any company that has an "update manager" is stupid and usually unhelpful
I'm fine with programs checking for updates on startup, but otherwise I uninstall any so called update managers. Apple, Googles, Adobe, hell now adobe makes you use a special update manager just to download flash for the first time.
I don't give a crap what company is doing it, the bottom line is end users need to educate themselves and actually read **** before clicking yes.
Most users who were "alienated" by Apple offering Safari were the users who actually read and saw that Safari was being offered and had to uncheck a friggin box...give me a break. The average idiot user just clicked yes, now has Safari installed, and will still use IE anyway and so the cycle continues.
Last edited by qumahlin; 09-29-2009 at 06:01 PM.
09-29-2009, 06:31 PM #12
Anyone know what is the news on the 3.1 3gs jailbreak it's almost a month and no news on what is going on is the 3.1 no more jailbreak
09-29-2009, 10:27 PM #13
just deselect the sh!t you dont want...This is getting a lil' ridiculous...
09-29-2009, 11:03 PM #14
For instance, today my mom was a victim of one of those sites that claims you have a virus, then WHILE IN THE FIREFOX WINDOW, shows you a giant fake .gif of "my computer" being taken by a virus. Then a pop-up window that claims it will remove a virus.
Now i know this is different, Apple is being much more discreet and less abrasive, but the point is, anybody who uses a computer regularly SHOULD have basic knowledge enough to catch these things.
The point i am trying to make is that there is such a thing as "computer common sense". ANYTIME that ANYBODY makes a change to their computer (especially something as simple as a software update) it is the users responsibility to READ what the heck they are doing.
09-30-2009, 02:30 AM #15
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09-30-2009, 02:25 PM #18
Yeah, you know, you guys are right. Just read what you're installing and unselect what you don't want.
In other words, you can no longer trust Apple the way you once did, even for things that should be as simple and straightforward as "updates".
No, sadly today we have to treat Apple like all the other bottom-dwellers out there and carefully read the fine print because chances are that Apple's trying to scr*w us. That's the reality, get over it, the company that has worked so hard at winning over your hearts is really just a pig with lipstick.
It's funny how small but avoidable mistakes like this can be so telling about a company.
09-30-2009, 08:09 PM #19
I always felt like apple degraded the performance on window apps, for some apparent reason i dont trust them. Since they are a mac company and against pcs, with all those mac commercials, they could do something small on the pc version and then not care about it ...
10-02-2009, 05:08 PM #20
no windows for me