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Originally Posted by KartRacer No, wrong again. I never said it was the users fault. I said it was the hardware maker for not writing good enough drivers or even...
08-29-2009, 08:09 PM #41
No, you are wrong. I really don't care about how much hardware is supported. I only care about the machine I buy. If I buy a machine that says "Vista Ready" or even has Vista pre-loaded...it better bloody hell work! Just so you know, if you sign your name to a document, you are endorsing it. Microsoft's "Vista Ready" sticker was Microsoft's way of endorsing every piece of hardware that displayed it!
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08-29-2009, 11:02 PM #43
Why am I reading Words like "windows" "XP" "Vista" "7" (well that last one actually doesn't count ) in a Mac Forum ??? mmm well no comment about it.
What I'm concern about is apple trying to "jail" my MacBook, I knew there was a reason for what I haven't update my mac yet (even when I get it from that sweet fed-ex girl at 12 p.m. yesterday)
What's next??? do we have to jailbreak our macs with our iPhone/iPod so we can run whatever we want???
I agree that they warn us about incompatible apps, that's good, and I guess they will became compatible at certain time when the developers actualize their code, but the "restricted" Apps I must say WTF???
EDIT: After reading the Mac OS X v10.6: About incompatible software page I think that we (at least I did) misunderstood a little bit the situation, and I just comprehend a bit more (I think )
They did restrict apps from opening, but that was just to prevent the actual crash of the app itself and maybe save a bad time to the user, the are not restricted as "you are forbidden to run this application on your mac" it's more like "this is restricted while the developer makes it compatible"
Apple itself says that we can go for the developer support to see if they will make any update to make their software compatible with SL.
Software restricted during installation and migration
During installation, Snow Leopard moves known-incompatible software to a folder named Incompatible Software at the root level of the hard drive. If you see this folder on your Mac, use the table below to check with the software vendor to see if any Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard-compatible updates are available.Software restricted from opening
After installation if you try to open ("launch") software known to quit unexpectedly, Snow Leopard will prevent the application from opening and you will receive a dialog notifying you of the incompatibility. If you see such a dialog on your Mac, use the table below, then check with the software vendor to see if any Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard-compatible updates are available.
Here is the complete (at least what apple posted) of applications.
Software restricted during installation and migration
Software restricted from opening
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08-29-2009, 11:41 PM #44
My phone was not abused. It was kept clean, I wiped it down every day, it was kept in a case, never in my back pocket to risk sitting on it (who the hell does that?), and it didn't have a single scratch on it. I didn't abuse it, the sometimes crappy quality from Apple caused it. And temperature changes?? Really?? You're using that as a counter point? I don't give a **** what temperature it is outside, there wasn't enough of a difference to make it crack the plastic. You're making the loser excuses now. I paid 600 for the phone and 3000 for the MacBook and had a funtional and structural failure respectively. NOT ACCEPTABLE. Even the guy at the counter was blown away that I hadn't had it that long and that it had no other markings on it.
08-29-2009, 11:46 PM #45
someone please throw a link to a windows forum *Ahem* I'm just saying. ^αGoD HaS THe⌃oF My LiFe aND i DoN'T WaNNa⎋*Ⓘ♡ⓂⓨⓘⓅⓗⓞⓝⓔ
08-30-2009, 01:28 AM #46
This argument is stupid, but I'll jump into it. Vista problems (and pretty much all problems with windows) comes from hardware drivers not being released in time (as mentioned before) Mac fans can say all they want that makes windows worse than Mac but that's because you are looking at it wrong.
The reason drivers aren't always up to date is because unlike macs we have the freedom to pick our hardware in my opinion buying a pre made PC is dumb and a huge mistake on the buyers part. Macs don't have driver problems because apple makes the computer and the OS so any hardware driver problems better come from an external device or apple ****** up.
This makes things much easier on Apple and makes them look good since they don't have hardware problems (just crappy hardware).
I'll stick with my flawless PC with meh core 2 quad and two 9800 GTX+ SLI graphics cards running a flawless (only problem was some bad ram I got but replaced already) copy of windows Vista (without software restrictions I might add :P)
08-30-2009, 04:13 AM #47
I have no idea why people always wants to make an argument between Apple and PC , both not the same thing ( if PC user think before thay saids something about Apple Computers )
Please make sure Apple laptop Vs PC laptop
APPLE desktop Vs PC dasktop (Pre Made)
APPLE OS Vs MS OS
because is not the same thing , when you buy an Apple Computer you buy the whole , because when somrthing wrong you just need to go to ONE PLACE ,thats APPLE , and you can contect them by e-mail, phone OR just go to Apple shop.
But with an PC you are not , if the software has problems you
need to go to MS not the Manufacturers and you can only contect MS by e-mail or phone ( thats sad ) .And if the PC got problems you goes to Manufacturers , and sometimes you feels like a
human football been kicking around till makes the things right
And please remember MS only selling you the software not the PC
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08-30-2009, 09:44 AM #48
My point-drivers are not the only issue with Vista. They may have been yours...but a lot of other people had bigger issues.
All I can say is that MS included XP mode for a reason!
By the way...I assume your hardware is working fine now, and has been working fine for some time now, hasn't it?
And no, I never really had much experience with Vista. I installed it when it was new...realized it was annoying and went back to XP...
As an aside I find it funny that vendors were charging people to downgrade back to XP even if they had their old install disks...
I figured I would just wait out until MS released a service pack for Vista. By then there was the buzz about Windows 7 and XP was doing me just fine so I figured I'd wait it out and let the suckers discover the flaws for MS to fix
This isn't really a Mac/Windows war. It's just that Mr Racer seems to think the 8 apps that are incompatible with 10.6 equate with a failed OS. It's just taken many, many turns since...
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08-30-2009, 09:54 AM #49
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08-30-2009, 10:43 AM #51
Well the reason M$ had to release vista SP1 and talk about how it fixes a bunch of problems is mostly because of Apple bashing M$ using falsities and just a bunch of other bull as well (also talking about how much better a mac is than a PC) where M$ doesn't ever bash on Mac. Its funny how Apple released a commercial talking about how M$ is spending more money on PC advertisements than on "fixing" (that which wasn't broken) vista when Apple themselves are spending more money on advertisements to bash M$ when they should be working on improving the OS which imo is junk.
My current PC which I built for about $1,200 has better hardware than any mac on the market but if I was to illegally get a copy of OSX and install it I would have more driver issues than anyone has ever had.
Yet Apple still charges you well into the 2K+ for a weaker hardware wise computer and an OS than now restricts software you can use and even can't be self diagnosed if there is a problem.
The real question is why spend 2k+ on a mac when my Desktop is better in every aspect and can run and do anything a Mac can do better (which my friend who is a graphic designer uses only mac but I can run all the software he runs at lower processing time). Instead of bashing on M$ (PC means personal computer why do they even say that a Mac is a personal computer also) Apple should stop dictating everything and make Mac Open and work on giving it more compatibility.
08-30-2009, 11:37 AM #52
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08-30-2009, 12:43 PM #55
This thread wins the award for "longest-and-most-boring-collection-of-individual-consecutive-posts-by-two-individuals" category. Congratulations!
08-30-2009, 01:05 PM #56
+1 for the nomination
08-30-2009, 01:35 PM #57
+2Apple a Day , PC away
08-30-2009, 01:35 PM #58
What do we win? Seriously, I'll shutup now but I have one more thing. I couldn't help but laugh when I opened this page and saw this.
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08-30-2009, 01:37 PM #60
Cyberduck doesnt work. And I can't get the beta to unzip