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Originally Posted by brianturney
I didnt write that with a snotty attitude I wrote it with a pullout keyboards are lame attitude. I hope they never make one. its going backwards and catering to people who refuse to learn new methods of input. Companies who cater to old technology to appease those that dont like change keep the technology from advancing. Kudos to Apple for holding their ground. the onscreen keyboard may take up screen space, but only temporarily while input is made. The keyboard under the screen doubles the thickness of the phone, makes is fat and bulky, and thats permanent. it doesnt get thinner when you're done using it. I've heard of muscle memory. I use it everyday when I type on my iphone. my fingers know exactly how far to move now without the crutch of hitting a button. Back when I got my 2G I spent two weeks getting used to the way to type on the iphone. now when I type people look at me in amazement that I can type faster than they can on their keyboard phones. several of them switched to iphone after they saw me typing, because they 'thought they would never be able to learn' to type fast enough. now they do. It's just a matter of letting go of the security blanket of the tactile keyboard. muscle memory works just as well on the iphone.
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True, you didn't write your post with a snotty attitude. I overreacted. Sorry. But I digress. But, once again, I must make say that (in my opinion) the on-screen keyboard is not for everyone. The people who don't like the on-screen keyboard just don't like it, just like you don't like physical keyboards. There's nothing wrong with that. But the onscreen-keyboard-only approach does have some disadvantages. The biggest of which would have to be screen space. The iPhone only has a 2.5 inch screen, and the keyboard takes up half of the entire screen (and almost all of it in landscape mode), and often I'd like to be able to see something on the screen, but the enormous keyboard covers it up! Of course, the physical qwerty keyboard approach also has it's disadvantages, like the fact that it can't change for a different situation, you're stuck with a constant set of buttons. And just because something is new doesn't mean it's automatically better. Take the Kindle, for instance. It's good, it has some potential, but it shouldn't replace books just because it's new. New≠Better. As I said previously, if there was one iPhone with a physical qwerty keyboard (landscape like the G1, or vertical like the Pre?), and one with an on-screen screen keyboard, the same one as usual. And about muscle memory, it is true you can use it with the iPhone's on-screen keyboard. You are right. It does take a long time to get, though there's nothing wrong with that. You are right about that. I would love to see 2 different Phones, one with and one without a physical qwerty keyboard. That would come pretty close to satisfying everyone.
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Originally Posted by brianturney
I probably wouldnt be so against slide out keyboards if they could actually make them super thin and strong rather than flimsy plastic making the device twice as thick like the Pre.
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This is true, slide-out keyboards do make the phone considerably thicker (*cough cough, G1, cough cough*) and that is a major drawback. But once again, I'll advocate for two iPhone models. The one with the physical qwerty keyboard would be thicker, and the one without would be thiner. But hey, let's not forget that we're talking about apple here/ They could probably find I way to make a physical qwerty keyboard that didn't make give the phone the look of a brick.
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Originally Posted by LeeDude
Argument goes both ways I think. If you want people to stop dissing the pre, then tell pre people to stop putting down the iPhone. It's not out yet, so who knows/cares. This much hype is bad, especially when you're challenging a company like apple, with 2 years reigning supreme in this category. Just wait, and see. Also, I don't see apple supporting the pre. I don't think they'll get enough sales from music to justify a major competitor using their technology.
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You do make a good point. In my opinion, the Pre people shouldn't be constantly insulting the iPhone, and likewise iPhone fans shouldn't be putting the Pre down. The Pre hasn't even been released. Lets wait and see. But what do you mean when you say too much hype is bad? Do you realize the enormous amount of hype surrounding the iPhone gave it momentum? Hype isn't all bad. These are two companies, Palm and Apple, and both of them have been around for a while and have tons of experience.
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Originally Posted by aekhamsouk
people who claim that they can't adapt are just plain lazy! or maybe just dumb?
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What is your problem? People who happen to prefer the tactile feel of a physical qwerty keyboard over an on-screen keyboard are NOT lazy, okay? And the are not dumb. I hope you realize that you're just making a fool of yourself.
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Originally Posted by doan_1
Or just simply prefer physical keyboard. My parents hated that I would as a child run around pressing everybotton I coud get my hands on. And I still prefer the positive feed back. Thats why my most favorite jailbroken app is haptic-pro. I prefer that conirmation that a button has been pressed. I'm quick on my iPhone, no big deal! But I prefer, that. It's simply a matter of preference. I mean, thank jebus we are different.
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Exactly. I couldn't have said it better myself.
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