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05-28-2009, 09:05 PM #21
ANY phone with a slide out keyboard is garbage in IMO. I'm glad he got fired for insisting the iphone have a keyboard and that apple didnt put one on it. keyboard sliders are clunky, make the phone thick bricks (the pre (0.67 inches thick) is twice as thick as the iphone 3G (0.33″ inches thick) , they break easy, and its archaic technology for those who refuse to learn future/better input methods. The Pre supports only pop and imap, no exchange sync or mobileme type file sync either. Good for him that he quit or got fired and made the Pre. Pre will not even come close to the iphone and will fail just like all the other smartphones are doing right now that are clinging to technology of the past. Apple was revolutionary for putting as FEW buttons on the phone as possible. All other 'buttons' are graphics on the screen that are reprogrammable/changeable with future OS releases. For all those people who can't type on the screen without 'feeling' that they've hit a button (usually the elders of the group), or those who say 'I can't type and drive at the same time without the keyboard', learn to type on the screen using multi-touch technology. we've been cursed with slide out keyboards on great phones for the past 10 years. Good riddens! Multi-touch/touchscreen input is the future, not buttons, sorry, get over it, move on. *insert crying emoticon with tiny violin here*
As for the Pre syncing with itunes, I'm sure that will be disabled when the next iTunes is released. It will probably check for the OS and kill any connection with non-apple OSes.
Read this article (Pre vs IPhone) and tell me if you still think the Pre sounds like it will be better.
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05-28-2009, 09:35 PM #22
05-29-2009, 12:44 AM #23
^ iPhone will never have a slider keyboard! Mark it!
05-29-2009, 01:23 AM #24
As for learning to type with a multi-touch keyboard: You wish! Apple has failed to make multi-touch useful for anything but the few apps that support pinching and unpinching... most disappointingly of all, the keyboard. On top of that, the significant delay in A2DP audio makes the clicking sounds useless... iPhone OS 3.0 has no option to output it from the speakers when using A2DP, so it desperately NEEDS haptic feedback.
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05-29-2009, 01:46 AM #25
Apple needs to shut up.Who cares if it syncs with itunes.It's not like they're stealing anything.
05-29-2009, 02:28 AM #26
05-29-2009, 04:32 AM #27
Well The Palm Pre isnt the only phone that can sync with itunes.. BB Storm can do it aswell my friend has one and tried it and it worked. I dunno if its only the Storm that can do it or their latest models (BOLD, JJAVELIN & STORM) but if 1 can um sure future bb models will. Thats unless ofcourse apple jumps in and intervenes1) 16Gig 1ST GEN IPHONES 3.0 Unlkd /PWND/BNeutered
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05-29-2009, 06:43 AM #28
That said, you sound just like the fictional fanboys that fully embraced the fictional "Mac Book Wheel" as "the next generation" as if it had no usability flaws what-so-ever and should fully supplant the traditional tactile keyboard. I have a question for you: Why not support small, easily-portable, and completely-optional Bluetooth keyboards like every other SmartPhone?
05-29-2009, 06:46 AM #29
Awesome. Im sure apple is gonna do something about this though! lol
05-29-2009, 07:26 AM #30
I wonder if Apple knows about this? Gee. Let me think about it.
05-29-2009, 08:55 AM #31
The Palm Pe is also CDMA correct?
05-29-2009, 09:48 AM #32
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05-29-2009, 10:37 AM #33
What is with there MASSIVE posts, I actually can't be arsed reading them. Why can't they just come with their own software instead of using Apples.
Pre is going to fail miserably, iPhone 3rd gen is going to mureder it!!
05-29-2009, 11:38 AM #34
Personally, I think what the big deal is this. Historically Palm was the ONLY OS that supported virtually every Computer OS. They are STILL the only ones that come with the CD including both Mac and PC software (Yes iTunes is compatible with both with download). They do not make full computers or OS for said full sized machines, and until iPhone Apple often recommended Palm to clients. Does it not make sense that Apple and Palm keep this relationship? 1) Apple can still sell iTunes music to CDMA users (currently not an option for one-device seekers) and people who prefer the new web os! 2) They don't HAVE to build a second device like everyone else is. Face it, everyone is different and no amount of ranting about keyboard this. Or bluetooth that. Is going to change that. I have a 3G, a storm and a BB 8220. I was playing with the new androids yesterday. I give HTC kudos about their Rogers Android launch. They built 2 devices. One with key board one without. Was that so hard? That choice alone gives them a slight edge.
Final note. I may be new here, but been on forums since 2002. it will always amaze me how people will rant on about some thing that has nothing to do with the subject. We're talking about iTunes compatability, not compairing it to iPhone. Or arguing keyboard/no keyboard. There are thousands of threads out there for that.
Is pre an iPhone killer? My question is does it need to be? It's different, hoorah for innovation! Without innovation the iPhone would not exist either.
05-29-2009, 11:45 AM #35
I once prayed to God for an iPhone, but quickly found out He didn't work that way...so I stole an iPhone and prayed for His forgiveness.
A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than you love yourself. - Josh Billings
05-29-2009, 11:59 AM #36
Frankly, though, I hope they got permission, because with the DRM-less music, maybe Apple is hoping for a boost in download sales...?
05-29-2009, 11:59 AM #37
Focusing on the facts, Apple started this thing 2 years ago. They deserve and have received tons of credit for this innovation. Your childish attitudes should be aimed to the fact that Apple set the bar for the future. The Pre will come out of the box much like the iPhone did. New, innovative, and very plain Jane.
Even if the Pre came out exactly even with the iPhone in features, 3.0 will raise the bar. As the Pre catches on, it will mature much as the iPhone, but in different ways.
Remember that imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. Hard core iPhoners should be proud that others are attempting to go in that direction.
I've had an iPhone since day 1. I played with the Pre at CES and have been following it's development. The touch gesture screen is about the only thing that the two phones have in common...and even the screens are very, very different. There are so many phone feature possibilities that no phone will have everything. A company just needs to pick it's priorities and run with it. And to pick out a feature and use it to dis another phone is just lame.
05-29-2009, 12:02 PM #38
05-29-2009, 01:17 PM #39
I have had a PRE since yesterday.
My roommate works for sprint and service manager etc they gave him one for free to play with. The phone isnt bad at all. It has a really cheap feel too it once you slide it out for keyboard. Feels like it would break easily. The touch isnt as good as the iphone but isnt bad at all. The browsing is nice but the screen isnt as big as the iphone and the detail isnt as great. Has some nice options. Its pretty light. I would rather have the iphone tho...
05-29-2009, 02:22 PM #40
what is the big deal if a phone syncs with iTunes. Really i wouldnt care less if a phone DOES NOT sync with iTunes. I use iTunes, many a times, purely out of necessity because iPhone/iPod ONLY syncs with it. I would actually love to try an alternative which gives me more flexibility. Personally, I dont think Pre should be flaunting this capability as a real great advantage.