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    Default Jailbreakers Beware! Pirated iPhone/iPod Apps Produce Big Numbers and Big Attention


    We all know that the "black market" for apps is big business, but now we're starting to get a better understanding of the numbers associated with content piracy in the app world. Incredibly, the "business of pirated apps" is starting to rival that of pirated films and music at an accelerating pace - but Apple doesn't seem to be overly concerned, even in the wake of some pretty lofty numbers being floated in a new report, which was chronicled today by our friends at The Big Money.

    The financial blog 24/7 Wall Street had a detailed post calculating the amount that Apple (AAPL) and developers of paid apps are losing when copies of their wares are downloaded to jailbroken, or unlocked, iPhones. On some pirate hubs, you can download nearly 1,000 iPhone apps in a single click. Their conclusion? For every paid app downloaded in the App Store, three are distributed for free through means that Apple hasnít authorized.
    Although the battle between content pirates and major Hollywood film and recording studios hasn't subsided in the least, it's all but certain that application developers will soon join the battle to help curb the loss of potential revenue they're "bleeding." But, as the article notes, Apple doesn't seem to be making too big of a fuss about the problem. Why? It's pretty clear that as long as content is played via iTunes or on iPods and iPhones, Apple will still benefit, even if the content being used was obtained legally.

    Why isnít Apple protesting? For one thing, $140 million is less than 2 percent of the $7.8 billion revenue Apple is expected to see this fiscal year. 24/7 also notes that Apple didnít make a huge fuss over music piracy either, given that it was making more revenue from iPods and iPhones, including those that were playing pirated songs.
    Call me crazy, but it seems that unless Apple starts to care about this issue, very little will likely happen with regard to the financial losses of developers that result from jailbroken iPhones and the influx of apps that users obtain without having purchased them via the App Store - which, by the way, has still suffered financially from pirated content. According to some estimates, Apple has already lost upwards of $140 million. Considering Apple has only made approximately five times that from the App Store, this number is very, very significant.

    Developers, however, have lost even more. $310 million is the figure presented in the piece.

    Developers Neptune Interactive Inc and Smells Like Donkey Inc have reported piracy rates has high as 90% for their game $1.99 Tap-Fu, and claim that it was available in a pirated version within 40 minutes of its release on the App Store.
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    wow apple makes a lot of money in a year
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    Welli guess it will continue with more people cracking the codes

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    Default I hope they gonna do something about this
    Im buyin my apps legaly from app store but my friends arent.. I told them that its wrong because all the apps dont come from big houses like EA but they dont listen.. I feel sorry for devs.

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    To be honest, we as the Jailbreak community should be trying to do more to stop this. That certain app people use to pirate, why is that even listed in Cydia or Rock? It can't be that hard for someone to assist the owners of the stores to come up with a system to make sure no one can get "the app that will not be named" via the other stores.

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    Away from the internet world I don't even know one person that has jailbroken their phone never mind uses pirated apps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masterz1337 View Post
    To be honest, we as the Jailbreak community should be trying to do more to stop this. That certain app people use to pirate, why is that even listed in Cydia or Rock? It can't be that hard for someone to assist the owners of the stores to come up with a system to make sure no one can get "the app that will not be named" via the other stores.
    If you're talking about the app I think you're talking about, the only way to get it is to add a repo manually, it's not included automatically in the normal Cydia repos. When it is added, a window pops up that basically says they can't stop you from adding it but they really wish you wouldn't.

    I think the reason why they won't block the particular app is because isn't that the whole reason we jailbreak? We jailbreak because we are tired of "the man" telling us what to do with the hardware we legally own. Adding limitations into cydia would be doing the same thing that apple does with their app store, dictating what you can and can't have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Messany View Post
    According to some estimates, Apple has already lost upwards of $140 million. Considering Apple has only made approximately five times that from the App Store, this number is very, very significant.
    Wow, that is insane! I knew cracked app downloads were happening but had no idea it was that big of a problem. Since Apple doesn't generate that much profit itself from the sale of apps I'm sure it isn't too high on their list of problems to tackle. This really sucks for the devs, as they are the ones who are losing while apple is still making money from people buying ipods/iphones because of the app store.

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    They say these companies and developers are "losing money." I beg to differ. These ultra-cheap sadsacks who pirate apps likely wouldn't pay for them anyway even if the opportunity to steal them wasnt there. Either way, the developers wouldn't be getting paid. There are people out there who won't pay for a $0.99 app. That's as much as a double cheeseburger at McDonalds.

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    Wow. People are pirated everything. Apps Store will now join list.

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    Of course, like any other digital content, Apps are gonna get cracked and pirated. The issue of piracy is far too complex for a single universal remedy.

    Some people will crack just because they can, others because they hate paid software. In many countries piracy thrives because people simply can not afford to pay the prices the "rich westerners" can afford.

    The truth is crackers will always find a way to pirate stuff andI don't understand how digital-content companies have not understood it for more than 15 years now.

    IMO first people that are used to using pirated stuff simply must be educated to respect the work of creators of digital content. Second, pricing must really be made according to different regions. People that earn 200$ a month will always prefer a free pirated version of a 99 cent app that makes farting sounds, even if its price went down to 10 cents simply because their way of thinking is like this: "in the normal world they make $4000 a month and they pay $.10, so why should I pay the same price when I can get it for free?"

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    This is very sad. I know some of the guys that make apps, and its just not cool to steal from them, i mean come on most devs are the little guy. its just a shame. And all who use stolen app should just suck it up and pay the freakin 99 cents or what ever it is. And yes cydia and rock should not allow those repos!! Cheers to all the folks who pay for there apps
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    In this economy, I'm sure that 140 million, or .14 Billion dollars are better in the hands of the middle-class and lower-class rather than the companies making 7.8 billion dollars a year.

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    Simple fix: require an activation key for apps. When the app is purchased the key is automatically sent to your email address

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    well I hope to think that the number of people who don't pirate is higher than the people who do
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    ^Davisman
    the hassle is too much. for the typical consumer. especially if you need something fast. and ever heard of keygens? no matter what you do people will crack it. nothing is "crack proof" it just takes time and determination. people will get what they want. It has been proven with everything from pot to programs.

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    this goes to show how little apple cares about its developers( the people who continue to make iphone/ipod touch as popular as it is today), theyre only in it for a quick buck, as long as theyve sold thier hardware and people use thier hardware, they could care less, either illegally or legally, theyre still making money.
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    i'm more worried about some of these apps reporting back the devs when launched. such as some of the fake apps in the appstore do, so if your phone gets stolen, they send an email while displaying a fake loading screen, so you can track the theif. i disable wifi and location before launching any pirated apps. as for the loss of money, i went an entire year, and only spent .99 on apps. even when i can get 'em for free, i have better stuff to do with my life than play jelly car on a 2.5 in screen. (nothing against jelly car)

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    One big problem is websites that host them like appscene.org that refuse to do anything. They have a DMCA link on their site that tells you to send email to a certain address and give all the info including a sworn statement you are the copyright owner of that app. The only problem is they ignore it. My app Nag-O-Matic got posted there over a month ago and I have sent more than 50 emails to the [email protected] to remove it, with no reply or action. If anyone has a number to call I'd appreciate it. I was getting a few downloads a day but the moment it started appearing on ********** it came to a screeching halt, not even 1 download since then.

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    Apple needs to crack down hard on pirates. Just use the Microsoft model used with the XBox360. Ban their account from the App Store and all online content. Or cancel their contract all together. Or disable all of the apps that can be proven to be stolen.

    crack down and crack down hard. Leave the jailbreakers alone tho...

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