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01-15-2010, 08:23 AM #61Forget about it!
Thats not true at all! They have not lost 310 million dollars. Why do you think people download(Cracked) apps for free? Because they dont want to pay for the apps. Take me for example, I would not pay for the apps (that I download for free). Even if there were no possibillities to download the app for free, i would not pay for it. Because I think it is unneccesary to waist money on a game. And I know that there are many other people that would do exactly the same thing if jailbreak didnt exist. Everyone wants many games on their device, and if you want many games and you want to pay for it, it would be really expensive. So the devs or who ever that calculated the large amount of money that the devs has "lost", has calculated wrong. There is even no way to calculate how much they have lost for real. Not even half of the people that download cracked apps would actually pay for them. I mean, if you compare a jailbroken iPhones game library with an original iPhone game library, then you would see that the jailbroken one has at least double or more games than the original. And many of the best games are the most expensive. Like "Gangstar" or "Need for speed", I would never pay for them. I have much more to say but this is to long I think....
Anyway, just wanted to say that they would NEVER get their lost 310 million dollars even if we go back in time and remove jailbreak. They would not even get the half of it!
01-15-2010, 10:01 AM #62
I haven't read through the 5 pages of comments to this, but something I think would help the piracy rate would be a testing period for the apps. I feel that some people pirate the apps first before buying them to give them a test drive.21.5" iMac 3.06 GHz Intel Core i3 l 15" MacBook Pro 2.2 GHz Intel Core i7 l 17" PowerBook 1.67 GHz
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01-15-2010, 10:29 AM #63
I have downloaded pirated apps, but here is my reason why. When navigation apps cost $60+ a piece and I don't know which one will work better am I supposed to pay for them all to try and only use it once if I don't like it? For example I hated the TomTom app and would have never used it, but I liked the Navigon app. I needed to test them both before buying since you can not get a refund for an app that doesn't work for you.
I do support the developers and think they deserve money for their work. After trying the pirated app, I always either deleted it or bought the paid app. If an app could be refunded after a trial period (like android market) or all apps came with a trial (like apps from rock), then I think there would be a lot less piracy.
01-15-2010, 07:04 PM #64
Who cares if the apps are pirated? I dont! You people are gonna tell me that you have NEVER illegaly downloaded a song or 2? Since when did everybody grow halos on here? My Iphone has 2 pirated apps on it, but thats all. I have 59.00 currently in my itunes account, that i will spend on some songs and some apps. Dont bag on people for downloading pirated apps. In this economy,some people cant afford these apps, and their iphone probably is the only thing that comforts them as they venture out in this cruel world!
01-15-2010, 07:44 PM #65
I download cracked apps-- to try them! If I don't like them I delete them. If I like them, I buy them. It's that simple. I've also started buying more apps because I can try them out. Not all apps have Lite or Demo versions so it sucks. I have purchased apps though, which weren't cracked, thinking "hey why not" and they've wound up being a waste of money. So much so that I've felt literally cheated into buying an app that got "good reviews" but wound up being total crap. So who's the victim?-- Devs and companies creating products that are stolen or the individual user who pays and feels scammed? Without a return policy on iTunes, cracked apps are here to stay. Similarly, since these games are only intended to hold attention spans for a few hours (at the most), even paying 99cents may not be worth it, especially if you add up all the money you've spent on all those "hey, why not?" games...
01-15-2010, 10:51 PM #66
I have no sympathy whatsoever for the person willing to make that kind of tradeoff from a financial standpoint. If you can pony up the money for a non-essential high end device like this, you are obviously not hurting that bad. And if you are, then you are whats wrong with america's economy. People think that because they can afford the initial cost that its a sound decision to buy. Then you steal from hardworking people who depend on the income that you are robbing them of, and act like you're sticking it to the man or something. I posted before about it being like walking out on a check at a diner. The owner of the diner won't feel the sting, but the waiter who was serving you now has to go out of pocket to pay for YOUR food.
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01-16-2010, 02:22 AM #67
it's a sad state of affairs when we have to steal others hard earned ideas.killall Terminal
01-16-2010, 04:18 AM #68
1. Copying's not stealing.
2. Those numbers are highly exaggerated! It is logical that most copies of cracked apps, that are downloaded would have never been sold in the app store.
3. All these shocking numbers conceal the fact, that many companies (incl. Apple) make a fortune out of the app store.. It's never been so easy for companies to reach such a broad number of people in no time to sell their little software to.
4. It's not Apple's responsibility to stop piracy! They couldn't stop it anyways
All that being said, the only ones that really lose here are small companies, software engineers that try to make a living independently. But as much as I feel sorry for them, well, that's capitalism for ya, that's neoliberal free market for ya. If you're one of these people, you're much better off joining your local anticapitalistic organization, instead of whining about, how people are not feeling your work is worth paying for. Just my opinion....
If that sounded harsh, please note, I haven't had my morning coffee yet. Maybe a bad idea to check modmyi before my first one of the day....
01-16-2010, 07:30 AM #69
pirates life is the life for me
Who that has read this thread and does not own a DVD burner or a CD burner or a VCR and not burned copy written material please cast the first stone. LOL We have been raised for at least two generations that burning copy written stuff is Ok. That is why we can buy vcrs,cd/dvd burners at walmart. you first had reel to reels in the home What for? to copy others work. then I think but not sure there were recordable 8tracks then the dual cassette decks What for? coping others material. then low and behold the VCR everything was copied illegally, Movies,tv shows, concerts.and tho there were attempts to deter copying stuff, it is lame at best. why you ask? because when Bucky creates something a song or a movie that will make Bucky a million dollars, the worlds retailers make untold billions on equipment to copy it. same thing for goes for apps. Apple does not make it's real money from apps, it makes its money on equipment to hold apps (Iphones)and for every 99 cent app that gets Jacked there is a three hundred dollar Iphone to put it on,LOL I think the pirates ar doing what they have been raised to do in America. if you can download it (torrent) download it. your are just doing what your momma taught you.
01-16-2010, 11:44 AM #70
To follow what Enkidu had said, it's all economics and the fundamentals of capitalism. Consumers tend to buy the cheapest goods (in this case, free).
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01-17-2010, 12:37 PM #74
Actually My Iphone IS Jailbroken for a FEW reasons. 1.Being able too use Themes instead of Wallpaper. I mean let's face it, Wallpaper? 2. The availability of some Apps THAT WILL NEVER SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY..on the Iphone( ex.. A cracked App called MCleaner WHICH allows me too Basically Block ALL #s from my Iphone OR..Block SMS txts. So far the App store ISN'T too chummy on getting THAT app. 3. Jailbroken iphones allow a certain customization that you JUST can't do with a Normal Iphone.( ex I have an App called Tone FX which allows my too Make Custom Ring tones for not ONLY, in-coming Txt BUT also My Mail, OR..when I put my phone in Sleep mode. 4. Yes I do think that SOME apps you SHOULD pay for. I myself have ALOT of Paid AND Free(aka Cracked Apps). 5) When it Comes down too it. It's about as I b4 mentioned Customization.I want too do things with my Iphone that..well just can't be Done OR..will never happen. I currently OWN an 3G, now with the 3GS out an the ability too use the recording feature on the 3GS i didn't want too spend $600 for a 3GS, so..I use a Cracked App called Cycorder which is JUST the same as the Recording Feature on 3GS although the quality is AS GOOD BUT.. it's almost damn near too it.BUT..i can do the SAME thing with My 3G that the 3GS can Now do. So for those whom wish too Knock Jailbreaking Iphone's or Apps, don't Knock it until u try it, and please do not use the excuse of those who ruin it for other's because that statement can be used in SOOO many ways.As I said there's going too be a FEW who think Free Apps ALL THE TIME is better then paying $.99 for one.Like I said I have BOTH Payed AND Free Apps on my Phone,Apps that the App Store will NEVER see.It is Not by our Hands that things Change, BUT rather our Interventions that change ourselves.
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01-17-2010, 01:53 PM #75
jailbroken apps arent cracked apps, cracked apps are paid apps available in the appstore...which u can get for free once there drm is stripped.Wanna-be coder/iphone user since '08
01-17-2010, 08:49 PM #76
apple cant do anything about it. theyll increase security,or something,and then some desperate person will find a loophole.
01-19-2010, 10:23 AM #77
its not right but its commonplaceThis is getting a lil' ridiculous...
01-21-2010, 02:13 PM #78
I am using one cracked app right now, actually a jailbroken app that had a price to the full featured version - I actually tried to purchase the app but it seems that the developer has gone AWOL - so to get the full features rather than the limited features of the trial version, I downloaded the cracked version. I use it daily, and keep looking for the developer occasionally. I would gladly pay a few bucks for the value of this app (Chronus, in case you're wondering, and in case anyone has current info about the developer).
So I see the value of the availability of cracked apps, to try before you buy, or like me, to get full features of an apparently discontinued program. But I don't think it is anyone's right to use any number of cracked apps just because they can, or just because they don't want to pay. I've always liked shareware for Windows, and for Windows Mobile phones, because I could try first, and buy and reward the dev if the app was good and useful for me.
01-26-2010, 07:33 AM #79
Apple sure is cleaning out so much money...
03-24-2010, 09:49 AM #80
my guess is that apple is more concern about the ipad. nobody wants to buy it(well the people I know) its just an oversized ipod touch with no camera(that means no video chat with my cousin ned) and plus they're giving them away!? Anyway the only good thing is the gameplay and jailbrakeing it. (ps.the funny thing is i bought one.)